But you're proposing sacrificing the efficiency of our operations, and so making it more likely for someone to witch, in order to put off the rest finding out about witching.

We could keep her from witchbombing everyone by breaking it to them first in relatively controlled conditions.
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That will end horrifically. Right now, we can't really safely witchbomb anyone, let alone the groups we don't really know much about. For canon characters, we have the benefit of foreknowledge, but for Firn's OCs? It's playing russian roulette to drop it on them.
When you put it like that it does sound kinda bad.

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Well, hope this works...
From
http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/posts/2130595/ (This was the biggest one - includes discussion on endless timestop)
to
http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/posts/2133524/ (Sorta fizzled out to nothing by the end of it, so chose this as the stopping point)

Only missed one tiny little discussion around 100 pages in, cause it wasn't really long enough to justify throwing it in.

Dunno what to do with a post like this, so I suppose either @Tam Lin can add me to the conversation and I'll copy the list there, or the debaters can simply look here at this post.

Regardless, I've got the links saved in a txt document, so if witchbomb debate shows up in the future just point any new posters to me and I'll give them the required pre-reading.

What's the point of having a goddamned policy if no one follows it?!

Ugo, you, in particular, should know better.
 
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Well, I imagine this was because the witchbomb debate this time was more on the merits of it in relation to the Sabrina's Home for Magical Girls discussion rather than witchbombing the main party.
 
Well, I imagine this was because the witchbomb debate this time was more on the merits of it in relation to the Sabrina's Home for Magical Girls discussion rather than witchbombing the main party.
And it has been discussed before. Just like everything else about the witchbomb. Half the points that were raised we more or less ripped from the old discussions. Seriously, the policy is put in place because we keep going in circles around this topic, and most of it stemmed from the fact that every time a new discussion starts half the participants have no idea of the previous times we had a go at this topic, so we just rehash old talking points. Can we please remember about the policy the next time the witchbomb comes up In any capacity?
 
And it has been discussed before. Just like everything else about the witchbomb. Half the points that were raised we more or less ripped from the old discussions. Seriously, the policy is put in place because we keep going in circles around this topic, and most of it stemmed from the fact that every time a new discussion starts half the participants have no idea of the previous times we had a go at this topic, so we just rehash old talking points. Can we please remember about the policy the next time the witchbomb comes up In any capacity?


Oi.
 
ehhhhhhhhhh first point will backfire since all she cares about is that she killed Madoka, second point didn't really work when we tried it before, and third...while probably true, what are you basing that on?
A big point in OM was that Otiki didn't have the brass tacks to out and out kill people herself. She was guilty about it, and a big part of her and Kirkira's relationship was K taking care of business for her. It follows from that point, that if she has a hard time killing strangers, then killing someone who comes over for tea regularly is going to bring a typhoon of self-loathing down on her head.

And a big point of her actions was trying to make us stronger. To give us 'tools'
 
Interloper pt. 11
You step back, slightly surprised, and you smile. You gesture at the bench behind you. "Ah, that's a bit of a story," you say. "Shall we sit down first?"

You flop onto the bench, Mami seating herself more sedately and smoothing down her skirt. "Where do I begin..." you muse, considering how much to tell her. In the end... you're trying to stop hiding things from her, to be less controlling. "Kyouko had a Grief Seed problem," you say slowly, watching Mami. "She didn't have any Seeds on her, and she was still taking care of Yuma, so I gave her one and offered cleanses."

Mami bites her lip, brow knotted in a worried frown. "Is she..."

"Yeah, she's OK," you hasten to reassure her with a hand on her shoulder. "Like I said, I gave her a Grief Seed, and I told her she can call me in at any time. After that, I had a fun spar with her, and she said that we aren't friends, and that she isn't being tsundere. Which is a huge step up from last time, so, uh. Overall I'm calling it a success."

Mami nods slowly. "That's... good. Um..."

"Mm?" you look at her inquisitively.

Her golden eyes flick up to yours, and then down again, hands worrying at the hem of her uniform blouse, twisting the fabric back and forth. You bring your hand over to rest on hers. "Mami?"

She heaves a sigh, eyes still downcast. Old pain, tempered by anger in the set of her brows, flickers across her face. "I... we... Kyouko and I parted on... very poor terms."

You close your hand lightly on hers, and she turns one hand upwards to clasp yours, palm to palm. You squeeze lightly in comfort. "I know, Mami," you say. "I know."

Mami sighs again.

You hear footsteps at the stairwell, of a whole group of people coming. The first thing you see is Madoka and Hitomi, Sayaka following a step behind the greenette and Homura ghosting along behind.

Hm. Is greenette technically correct, really? Brunette developed from French -brown, brun-, so... French for green would be... vert? Vertette? Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

"Mami! Sabrina!" Madoka calls with a bright smile on her face. The smile fades, though, when she sees Mami looking downcast, her quick pace slowing to a walk. "Mami?"

Mami looks up, smiling weakly and smoothing her uniform out. "It's nothing," she says quickly. "Hello, everyone!"

Worried pink eyes glance at you as the others chorus their greetings, and you shake your head slightly.

Madoka nods, moving over to sit on Mami's other side. Homura gives you a sharp look as she settles on Madoka's other side.

Sayaka drops onto the opposite bench, handing a lunchbox to Hitomi, who accepts it gracefully.

"Hey, everyone," you say cheerfully as you open up your own lunchbox. "How's school going?"

Sayaka rolls her eyes. "Miss Saotome got dumped. Again," she says.

"... really?" you tilt your head over to the side. "And she... vented in front of the class again?"

Madoka nods.

Hitomi chuckles genteely, picking up her chopsticks. "Poor Nakazawa."

"How does she have a job if she does that kind of thing?" you wonder out loud as you pick up some rice with your chopsticks.

"Miss Saotome is a great teacher," Madoka offers.

Mami nods. "She is," she says.

"... huh," you say.

"Ah, Sayaka?" Madoka asks.

"Yeah?" Sayaka asks.

"Um, did you catch what Miss Saotome said about next week's lessons?" Madoka asks.

"Uhhh," Sayaka says.

"We're having a review session next week," Hitomi says reproachfully.

"Oh," Madoka says.

"It's nothing much," Homura says quietly, looking at Madoka.

"Yeah, yeah, we know your English is great, transf- Homura," Sayaka grumbles petulantly.

You cough loudly. "So, anyway, today, I went over to Kasamino for a bit."

"Oh?" Hitomi looks interested, and Homura gives you another inscrutable look.

"Yep," you confirm. "Went there to meet... an associate," you say, and chuckle. "She says she's not my friend, and she also says she's, quote-unquote, not being tsundere."

Hitomi blinks, looking vaguely puzzled, while Homura frowns minutely, looking askance at you. Madoka, by contrast, claps her hands together delightedly. "Oh, that's so cute! How did that hap- oops!" The lunchbox on her lap nearly overbalances and falls to the ground, but Homura's hand shoots out lightning fast to steady it. "Ah, thank you, Homura!" Madoka says.

"It's not a problem," Homura says tonelessly.

Well, you can't tell them about the whole magical girl thing. Not with Hitomi there. You rub lightly at your forehead with the hand not holding the chopsticks. "Ah, there's nothing that much to tell," you say delicately. "I, uh. Have a tendency to poke my nose into other people's business. That's how I met her."

Madoka giggles, this time keeping one hand on her lunchbox. "That's amazing."

Mami shifts a little, shuffling closer to you so that her hip brushes up against yours. "It is," she says quietly.

Sayaka shakes her head. "Have I mentioned how it's totally not fair you don't have to go to school?"

You shrug. "Yep."

"Well, it's totally unfair," she says, sticking her tongue out at you. "I mean, I know you lost your memory an-" she cuts herself off, looking horrified at herself.

"Sayaka!" Madoka and Hitomi say in stereo.

"Sorry! Sorry, Sabrina," Sayaka says.

"It's fine," you say. Mami brushes her hand against yours in sympathy, and you turn to find her giving you a smile. You return it, before looking around at the others. "Honestly, it doesn't bother me much."

"Ah," Sayaka says.

"So, Sayaka, how are you settling in at your new place?"

Sayaka rocks back on the bench slightly, her expression slipping. "Oh? I... it's going OK," she says loudly. Blustering. "Nothing to worry about!"

Madoka gives you a reproachful, disappointed look.

[] Write-in

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Do you want to poke Sayaka more? Clarify about the whole Kyouko and Yuma thing?

Holding in abeyance:
[x] Also, I asked her to send over any girls she kicks out of her territory, so...that might be happening? Sorry about not asking first, it was kind of spur of the moment.
[x] Lunch:
-[x] Plans after school? Nagisa can probably come today.
-[x] Mami suggested a picnic earlier. We got to find a day to do this.
-[x] Telepathy Homura and Mami I've been thinking that there might be a few girls coming here looking for me, after word about what happened in Sendai gets around. Just keep an eye out for new magical girls in the city, okay?
-[x] Talk about different kinds of tea.
 
Dang, didn't realize the Blueberry would still be so upset about "burdening" the Shizuki's. Oops.

How should we do this, apologize telepathically to Sayaka and/or Madoka (separately) and talk about it later? Change subject?

Also, since Sayaka complained that it is not fair that we aren't going to school, should we show her why we don't need to go to school? ;)
Could also serve as a distraction topic to lighten the mood before we finish up the rest of the vote.
Or we could just skip to the rest of the vote.
 
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Hm... as usual Mami's worried about Kyouko, Sayaka's issues have failed to magically disappear since the last time we failed to do anything about it, Homumom's upset that we went out of town without her permission, Madomom's upset about our terminal case of tactlessness, and Kyouko confirmed for definitely not a tsundere, baka.
"Well, it's totally unfair," she says, sticking her tongue out at you. "I mean, I know you lost your memory an-" she cuts herself off, looking horrified at herself.

"Sayaka!" Madoka and Hitomi say in stereo.
Wait, when did Hitomi learn about our brain damage amnesia?
 
[] Hide from Madoka's disapproval.
-[] Behind the bench.
Wait, when did Hitomi learn about our brain damage amnesia?
I think we mentioned it in the hospital? What I'm wondering about is her apparent lack of curiosity regarding our presence on top of a school we don't attend. Between that and our talk of "meeting an associate" she probably thinks her friends have fallen in with the yakuza.
I'm not pitching anything. I know how this Quest ends; I can't really make any true decisions on my own.
The way you say this makes it sound like this is Mass Effect 3: The Quest.
 
So! What do you give someone to pay them back and show your appreciation for what they've done, when they are wealthier than you and have given you something you needed but couldn't afford.

Answer: Something you didn't buy in a store but made yourself.

Seriously, this would be much easier if we knew that Sayaka could paint or write poetry or something.

...

Wait ...

Okay ... So, totally out of the box idea here:

Step 1: Write a poem or a song or something glorifying the generosity of Hitomi and family

Step 2: Use telepathy to make Sayaka believe that we are her muse

Step 4: Have Sayaka write said edification and perform it for Hitomi and family

I have a feeling this could go very wrong,but maybe we can tweek it.
 
The way you say this makes it sound like this is Mass Effect 3: The Quest.
Actually pretty good right up until the last 5 minutes where it feels like M. Night Shamalyan snuck in and wrote the ending? Oh please god no.

Hm. You know, if Sayaka wasn't such a bad student, maybe I'd recommend taking her as a lab assistant, but I think that would bore her (and that's disregarding the danger of showing her how awesome our powers are and encouraging a contract).

I really don't know what we can do to help her, since her problem is of a kind that she mostly has to solve herself.
 
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