Gadjo
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I totally forgot Homura went to Catholic school; I always shrugged it off as a lie she told to her nosy classmates. Makes sense that she would have though, given her comparatively small reaction to it.
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She can't fly, therefore we win. Her ranged attacks won't break our defences, our ranged attacks will break hers. She only beats us close range and we can griefmove faster than she can run so she can't close the distance. I'm not even sure grief armour is penetrable. Unless we hold back in multiple ways then victory is basically unavoidable. Which we're going to do, because it's fun to have an even fight.
How often do you reckon Mami used her magic during sparring considering the magic cost? I don't think it was often.
I'd like to see someone pickpocket a ring off a finger. That said, having a weak point that can be attacked for massive damage would be a bit annoying. I've already got loads of those though. All kinds of places where a sufficiently hard knock or slice will leave me dead. My skull for example, or my arteries at hip or neck. A soul gem has to be at least as tough as those right? I can't imagine the incubators making them weak.
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I sorta took it at face value because she doesn't really have a reason to lie about something like that to classmates she could not care less about, unless she's just amusing herself telling them stupid bullshit.
"I was raised by a tanuki."
"I spent 5 years with the Maasai."
"I was sent here to study the young of your species."
"I am the Goddess of Calculus. I have come to evaluate your worship of Me."
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Gadjo
Doka
Eventually she gets tired of lying and just starts telling the entire truth.
"I'm a magical girl."
"From the future."
"You're most likely all going to be killed by a giant hurricane monster in about a month"
"I've been having this talk with you bitches for 12 years and you haven't gotten any less boring"
Torgamous
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Then go to Vegas, where they've got a pickpocket who can steal glasses off your face.
Thanks.
*looks at Oktavia*
That's literal, by the way.
We do see the ending of a spar between Kyouko and Mami back when they were together. Kyouko is basically tied up with ribbons, strung upside down, and complaining that she always loses because of the ribbons.
Sadly, it's quite easy to do.
Gadjo
Doka
In TDS, Kyoko is complaining that Mami's ribbons just aren't fair in a fight, which implies that she used them to beat Kyoko quite often. Sure, she wouldn't have much of an answer to the MOF (other than bailing and forcing us to chase her into a trap) but we won't be using the fortress or the armor, which is why I'm saying she could easily surprise us with her competence. Also, don't forget about the chainspear; she's actually pretty dextrous with that. I'm just saying that she isn't going to flail ineffectually at us and lose just because we're more powerful (now if we were gem yanking and just flying away in the MOF, yeah. That's a pretty unfair matchup. I'm talking about the fight assuming we don't use those things).
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The main advantage of the soul gem is that instead of having multiple weakpoints on your body, you just have one small weakpoint that's easily protected. As long as the soul gem is intact any other injury is basically a flesh wound, and protecting a small soul gem is much easier than protecting your entire body.
Cannongerbil
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Well, as long as the fight isn't over in three seconds flatI'm fine with whatever outcome.
Torgamous
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We can double jump, right? Have we tried using that to brake just before we hit the roof?Also we really, really could work on our roofhopping. We're being outdone by Yuma there.
SaltyWaffles
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Just want to point out that, if we were actually trying (at all) to win with using our grief bending, Kyouko would never stand a chance. Ever. Aside from soul gem yanking, we can tank everything she can throw at us and attack her from everywhere at once, relentlessly.
The whole point of sticking to non-grief powers is to get practice that we wouldn't get otherwise, and to give Kyouko a chance to fight us on equal terms.
At most, I'd maybe allow some small-sized grief wings so that we'd have enough mobility to give her a challenge, but nothing beyond that.
@Torgamous
But that's not how to do it, is it? There's got to be an easier, correct way to roofhop.
But that's not how to do it, is it? There's got to be an easier, correct way to roofhop.
Gadjo
Doka
I wonder if that's important in some way: Roofhopping appears to be instinctual to a magical girl. So why in the hell can't we do it? It might have something to do with what we actually are.Also we really, really could work on our roofhopping. We're being outdone by Yuma there.
Keep in mind she agreed to a spar, not a training session. She wants a challenge, so we'll use just enough grief bending to make it fun.
Sayaka did not think at all rationally when it came to this issue. Rather than saying "this rock contains my soul, I should protect it", she said "this body does not contain my soul; it's just a meat puppet, so it doesn't matter what happens to it". Which is incorrect and stupid and directly led her to becoming a witch.
Honestly, however much of a monster Kyuubey is for everything else he did, this is one area where I don't blame him. He told the girls that these devices that give them power are called "soul gems"; and it ought to be obvious that a soul gem contains a soul. And Kyuubey honestly does see lichdom as the ideal way of protecting the body and extending one's life (it's heavily implied that his own existence uses this method).
But that's all beside the point of the current discussion. The point is that Kyouko and Yuma already know that soul gems are important (even if they don't know all of the reasons for it). Taking measures to protect the gems should be a simple safety precaution which should not alarm Kyouko or Yuma in any way.
Edit: if we are going to be paranoid about safety when it comes to clear gems (where we don't even know about any particular safety issues as long as they aren't stored next to regular grief seeds), then we should be doubly paranoid about safety when it comes to soul gems (where there are known safety concerns in the context of a spar).
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Gadjo
Doka
Well part of it was that she felt that it meant she wasn't really alive, and so she couldn't be with Kyosuke. It was kind of stupid, but keep in mind she's a middle schooler with a crush: hopefully no one is ever as stupid as they were when they were a middle schooler with a crush.
Torgamous
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So we don't do that. Sticking to non-grief powers will make the fight uninteresting in the other direction, with Kyoko handing us our ass before we're done saying "go". The stated objective is to make the fight fun, so we stick to using grief constructs that make the fight fun.
Cannongerbil
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Once again,
You've made alot of points about how it'd be logical for a meguca to think that the soul gem would be important, but I still haven't seen anything about Kyouko or Yuma knowing that the soul gem is particularly important beyond being the source of their magic, and taking special precautions to protect them, more than the average meguca already does, anyway, will just raise more questions.
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Cannongerbil
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...Look, the soul gem is already hard enough target to hit. We certainly won't be aiming for it, and considering that it's small and unintuitive target, Kyouko most likely won't be either. Doing something like this ahead of time is just drawing undue attention to the soul gem for no good reason.
Torgamous
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Kyoko's not going to take a gem shot in a spar and taking precautions against that eventuality is likely to offend her.
The obvious answer to those questions being that our magic is more important to us than most or we're otherwise more paranoid than usual about losing it. I would be shocked if Kyoko felt the need to ask about that.Once again,
You've made alot of point about how it'd be logical for a meguca to think that the soul gem would be important, but I still haven't seen anything about Kyouko or Yuma knowing that the soul gem is particularly important beyond being the source of their magic, and taking special precautions to protect them, more than the average meguca already does, anyway, will just raise more questions.