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AuraTwilight said:
Mami only died because her Soul Gem broke. Kyubey says as long as it's safe, a Magical Girl can survive AAAANYYYTHIIIING.
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Forget that mami soul gem is in her head. :V

Hmm... it doesn't include pain if you not desire it right? Now suddenly all idea for torture is popping up.
I need a break, i must remember i'm not playing as a villain.
 
theauthor said:
Forget that mami soul gem is in her head. :V

Hmm... it doesn't include pain if you not desire it right? Now suddenly all idea for torture is popping up.
I need a break, i must remember i'm not playing as a villain.
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Well that rules out torture using pain anyway. We still have psychological torture, Chinese water torture, bad movie marathon torture, sleep deprivation, repeated exposure to mimes, torture through manipulating grief levels in the soul gem and, of course, tickling.
 
AuraTwilight said:
The funny thing is Wally might ACTUALLY work on narrativium.

Re: The Twins, we all know I'm super messiah paragon mode save/diplomacy all the megucas, and we need to learn more about the Soujous. However, if they ARE totally bonkers sociopaths who are nothing but poison, can we atleast like...

Do totally unethical experiments on them? For SCIENCE? I mean it'd feel like a waste to just gemsplode when we can do tests on things we can't otherwise work on, and THEN Gemsplode when we're done.

I don't know.
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You mean torture them? That's what unethical grief experiments sounds like to me. Only Kyubey deserves torture, and we don't need more reasons to feel guilty. Torture bad. Torture is source of more stuff to hide from Mami.
 
Gadjo said:
You mean torture them? That's what unethical grief experiments sounds like to me. Only Kyubey deserves torture, and we don't need more reasons to feel guilty. Torture bad. Torture is source of more stuff to hide from Mami.
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Depends. If we disconnect the body from the soul gem they don't feel anything right?
 
Crasian01 said:
Similarly, it I knock someone out with medical anesthesia before experimenting on them, it's also perfectly acceptable.
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Well I don't know about perfectly acceptable, but if the experiments can all be perfectly reversed with healing magic and the patient feels no ill effects and there's the possibility of finding a solution that brings thousands of witched girls back to life it becomes a bit harder to answer definitely one way or the other as to how acceptable it is. Holy run on sentence Batman!

Weigh the worth of doing something unpleasant to one unrepentant mass murderer against the potential gain.
 
Jackercracks said:
Well I don't know about perfectly acceptable, but if the experiments can all be perfectly reversed with healing magic and the patient feels no ill effects and there's the possibility of finding a solution that brings thousands of witched girls back to life it becomes a bit harder to answer definitely one way or the other as to how acceptable it is. Holy run on sentence Batman!

Weigh the worth of doing something unpleasant to one unrepentant mass murderer against the potential gain.
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1) Perfect reversibility is a logical construct used to model systems. It never exists in real life.
2) You can never, ever predict with accuracy the side effects of something in a biological system.
3) You cannot evaluate the success/failure of your experiment unless the subject is allowed to Do Things while awake.
4) The mere possibility of finding a solution is insufficient reason to justify human experimentation without consent.
5) The mere possibility of finding a solution is insufficient reason to justify an experiment, period. All experiments must be backed by significant evidence and reasoning of a reasonable probability of extracting useful data.
6) Assuming an experiment is conducted, analysis of the extracted data requires a useful model, which we don't have.
7) Creation of the model described in #6 does not require human experimentation.
8) Unrepentant mass murderer = Kirika Kure in a different timeline.
 
Let's not get into a 4 pages long argument about morality, suffice to say we disagree about half of those points, but I'm willing to put it aside considering how unlikely it is that I'll actually convince enough people to make it happen. That said, it's alright to pick feeling justified over saving lives if you want. It's a story after all, there's no particular need to compromise your moral framework when the stakes are imaginary.

Any ideas for making bodies for those gems she's undoubtedly collected that doesn't make you feel villainous? Because I do plan on saving those girls.
 
Jackercracks said:
Let's not get into a 4 pages long argument about morality, suffice to say we disagree about half of those points, but I'm willing to put it aside considering how unlikely it is that I'll actually convince enough people to make it happen. That said, it's alright to pick feeling justified over saving lives if you want. It's a story after all, there's no particular need to compromise your moral framework when the stakes are imaginary.

Any ideas for making bodies for those gems she's undoubtedly collected that doesn't make you feel villainous? Because I do plan on saving those girls.
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No the point is that your science is poor. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7 all apply absent any moral framework. Why would you choose the most complicated possible way to do basic scientific exploration? We can do a lot of things without dealing with an entire human body and it's horrifying levels of intricateness and complication.
 
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