Cannongerbil
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We are just encouraging them to try new things. It doesn't mean forcing them to do it in the middle of battle if they think it's a bad idea.
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I'm with Cannongerbil on this one.
Now that we can take care of any grief costs, they should be able to try out some ideas that may have been to expensive or inefficeint to try before. They don't necessarily have to do it while fighting the witch, they could also try things out while dealing with familiars. If it is anything with a lot of potential for destruction,first trying it inside a barrier may be the safer option.
[x] Cannongerbil
Now that we can take care of any grief costs, they should be able to try out some ideas that may have been to expensive or inefficeint to try before. They don't necessarily have to do it while fighting the witch, they could also try things out while dealing with familiars. If it is anything with a lot of potential for destruction,first trying it inside a barrier may be the safer option.
[x] Cannongerbil
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Showing off's better done now that we have people to watch our backs than later when we're alone.
Yay for showing off.
Yay for showing off.
Noi, back during the Oriko hunt we thought Oriko might be hiding inside a barrier and we asked Homura if entering a barrier would mess with her time-stop. She didn't know and we left the barrier alone.
The science vote is explicitly wrong about our grief control not using magic. Anyone voting for it is voting for literal brain damage until that's fixed.
I'm not sure I like the phrasing of the experiment / show off bits either. It should be about trying things they never did before due to cost or due to not having support, not trying to impress each other or having Sabrina direct their development. I'm especially leery of telling Mami to show off, because she goes for the showy, risky style instead of her strong and efficient one when she's at the top of her game.
I'm not sure I like the phrasing of the experiment / show off bits either. It should be about trying things they never did before due to cost or due to not having support, not trying to impress each other or having Sabrina direct their development. I'm especially leery of telling Mami to show off, because she goes for the showy, risky style instead of her strong and efficient one when she's at the top of her game.
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
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While true, both us and Homura are here to guard her backs. She can be allowed to let loose in a safe environment, and god knows she needs the ego boost right about now.
[] Encourage Mami and Homura to experiment with their powers. Anything they've never tried because of the cost or because they've fought alone without someone to watch their backs. Anything they want practice with.
[] As usual, abort and go into full blender mode if things start looking risky.
[] As usual, abort and go into full blender mode if things start looking risky.
[x] Cannongerbil
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
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Current state of the vote.
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@SynchronizedWritersBlock: Eh, I think you understand 
We've never combined hammer and grief.
That said, removed, like, five words. For rest of said voters, you might want to address @Higure.
As for approach of experimentation, my primary goal here is to get closer to enveloping the universe in our barrier/cleansing range. However, at least Mami could benefit from thoughts.
We've never combined hammer and grief.That said, removed, like, five words. For rest of said voters, you might want to address @Higure.
As for approach of experimentation, my primary goal here is to get closer to enveloping the universe in our barrier/cleansing range. However, at least Mami could benefit from thoughts.
@SynchronizedWritersBlock: Eh, I think you understand
That said, removed, like, five words. For rest of said voters, you might want to address @Higure.
As for approach of experimentation, my primary goal here is to get closer to enveloping the universe in our barrier/cleansing range. However, at least Mami could benefit from thoughts.
I don't think you understand either.
It's nothing to do with combining stuff. We literally control our grief with a web of magic, exactly as the Witch here is described as controlling hers. It is something we've always done and something we've observed of our own magic/grief in the past and something we've observed of Witches in the past. It's how our grief continues under our control even through Time Stop, despite not being physically connected.
I'm not in favor of forgetting everything we already know every time the opportunity to Science comes up.
Higure
Witch of Faith
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...will fix.
From a strictly logical perspective, any Science! that gets us closer to solving the grief issue (so that we can save all of the world's meguca and witches) is absolutely the best use of our time over anything else we could possibly be doing.
I finally got around to watching Rebellion last night. That was something else. I dunno how we got here from the end of Rebellion. More conceptual hax wishes, I guess? One interesting thing I noticed from the movie was that Kyuubey was trying to give up and abandon Earth but Homucifer did (something?) to limit his abilities and trap him here (presumably as a glorified garbage disposal for grief). Now that time has been reset, Madokami and Homucifer do not seem to be around any longer (since witches are showing up again), but is it possible that the limitations that were placed on the incubators still exist?
Edit: switched to Higure's vote (basically the same but slightly improved wording).
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In this quest, Madoka never made her end-of-series wish despite the timeline being, for all intents and purposes except the wish apparently, identical. So Madokami, Homucifer, and Rebellion as a whole... never happened.
That sentence explains about the maximum quantity of canonicity Rebellion has here at the present time. And just to confuse things further it's non-canon. Wrap your head around that.
Gadjo
Doka
As far as we know, anyway. Timeline and alternate dimension shenanigans have been put forth as alternate theories, but a Mado wish during the previous timeline is the prevailing theory at the moment.
And, since it's changed since I copied it:
[X] Cannongerbil.
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
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I think at this point we can state with certainty that time travel is involved in some manner, and not just Homu's timeloops either. Black feathers, and a large portion of our metaknowledge, wouldn't make sense otherwise.
Krecart
Not for throwing.
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That was, like, one the first things we tried. Didn't work.
aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
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[X] Cannongerbil
But we're totally not a witch, riiiiight?
Also, Coobs never revealed the effect of the loops on Madoka's potential to Homura, like he should've in Episode 11. Something weird's going on with his knowledge of the other timelines-- especially since he seems to have it all figured out really early this loop (it took him 'til Episode 8 in-canon).
Hm. You can pretty much trace the effects of Coobs keeping that quiet (or not figuring it out), actually. The reason Homura didn't loop in Ep. 11 is because she despaired that she was making things worse by going back. So slight butterflies to the Walpurgisnacht fight, a different Madoka wish, and Homura's still willing to rewind time over a 'doka wish because Homura didn't end up grief spiraling over Kyubey's reveal. Yeah, I can see it.
Eh, I think you understand
We made an imitation hammer out of grief. It worked just fine, it just didn't have any physics altering magical effects on it. What we did not try to do was to make a hammer out of a 50/50 mixture of magic and grief. Nor did we try to summon a grief hammer and a magic hammer into the same space.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Krecart means that we tried applying grief to magic hammer the first time we tried out our powers. No instinctual way to do it popped up, so it didn't work.
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You know, since we let that witch-kissed woman die because we didn't want to go into a fight without testing our powers first, does that makes us not-heroic good, or just not-stupid good?
Gadjo
Doka
I didn't even remember someone dying because of that. Also, not going into a fight without testing our powers first just makes us kind of pragmatic good.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I think we knew we were gonna fight Gertrud, and Mami saves a woman just in the nick of time going there in canon. We delayed, so...
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
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[x] Higure, since he's gonna fix his vote. Also Familiar Science.