Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Again, we don't want to give Kyubey information about our goals and knowledge unless we're sure our cover's blown.
CompassJimbo
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Research paper? CALLED IT!!
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A: What do you think our cover is?
B: What do you think we're keeping secret?
C: How much do you think Kyubey knows?
D: Why, anyway?
I mean, look at the stuff he has to know - grief control, interventionist out to save everyone, likes to experiment with witches, knows things she hasn't been told by Kyubey such as lichbomb.
I know all the talk about Kyubey not understanding people, but us wanting to unwitch witches has paper-thin cover as-is - it is so thin that Mami had better concealment from lich bomb. He can figure it out from half the information he has - and without being picky about which half, either.
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Peer review? What's that?
A. All he knows for a fact there is that we're messing with grief. Suggestive but not outright proof. Let's not give him proof.
B. That we know everything. Absolutely everything.
C. Honestly? There's a lot of leeway and it could be anything from "not sure what she's playing at" to "She knows about the Witchbomb, and more- I want to find out what that is"- but I'd rather not flat out confirm exactly what we know, or give him knowledge that he could use to tear down, say, Homura.
D.Because every single time Kyubey's known something about someone's motivations, that's ended horribly? The less he knows about us, the better.
[q]Go to Asunaro. Recruit the Kazumi cast to give feedback.
Making Charlie Swear: Good Grief
[X] Kinematics
These votes seem all too similar to me...
[X] Cannongerbil
[X] Cannongerbil
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Messing with grief as cover for knowing everything...I'll address what he knows in C.
First, asking papers/materials on grief goes excellently with that cover.
As of now, it is enough to either make him think we want more OR that we already know what we're doing with grief, depending on results - in particular, the latter towards Hildegard. (If he didn't know initially, then he sure as hell has noticed by now, after it visiting several Meguca gatherings and us replicating the effect.)
Megalomania *whack* We do not know everything, or even better than anyone!
We are interesting anomaly due what we know, granted. If being an anomaly was sufficient for active targeting we'd have been kidnapped already (amongst others).
As for the secrets we know...
Lot of it isn't really useful to him beyond "Sabrina knows X" way, and not really relevant - why would we reveal some more meta secrets.
Things such as "not real" don't have particular impact on his position, after all.
The worst secret we could reveal, imho, would be Homura being time traveler - expect it is implied that Kyubey already knows "she is making things worse" and does nothing.
Other secrets aren't particularly harmful. Us wanting to make a better MG system? That is not even a secret at this point with our actions in Sendai, for instance.
He also knows that:
A: We are a do-gooder, out to save puella especially and humans in general.
B: That we made wish to control grief, specificially mentioning puella magi and witches in addition to ourselves.
C: That we experiment with grief seeds and grief both.
D: That we are manipulative and preternaturally knowing.
E: That our existence and potential are both anomalies.
F: That we're willing to give him grief.
At the very least, it makes it seem as if we'd balk at nearly nothing to save puella magi from eternal toil versus witches - including not only good things.
He certainly at the very least suspects that we know what we're doing with Hildegard, given us repeating it, while willing to be cooperative.
Tearing down Homura...You mean with something like "Sabrina is willing to let Madoka make a wish"?
Tearing down with witchbomb is something he can do at any time.
He already knows our main motivation. We've both made a wish to him and used him as relay to convey it.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Cannongerbil votes for giving up control of our grief to see what happens. Basically, finding out what did the grief try to do both times we pushed it out of range.
Kinematics's vote instead includes an attempt at space warping; using grief to generate energy fields, like gravity and magnetism; adds scanning the hammer to the common part of the vote where we scan seeds/gem; and it also checks if something else weird happens when a fully emptied seed and a normal seed make contact.
I want to do the 'grief out of range' thing, but I want space warping more, so:
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@Onmur: To be fair, SWB also does space warping. He also does TIME warping.
And familiar creation.
Kanna: "Y won't you love me? Murder-suicide!!!!"
Oh yeah.
And familiar creation.
They'd give excellent feedback, and revive us in case we die! What could possibly go wrong?
Kanna: "Y won't you love me? Murder-suicide!!!!"
Oh yeah.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
In all forms we can, at that.
Yeah, lots of things I want to do in that vote. Not sure if we've got the time for it, though.
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Could do
[X] Create a grief alarm clock on your wrist, set it so you can arrive back in time for lunch.
[X] SynchronizedWritersBlock
I expect to have 1 more hour of testing time available after mine is done, which should be enough to give at least a few of the ambiguous entries a try. It's not that I don't want to do any of the other options, it's that I want the definitive testing out of the way before we try things that we're only vaguely sure on how to test.
CompassJimbo
Where’s Your North?
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I don't care if this is a joke vote or not!
[x] Try willing a witch's worth of Grief into being Rochelle.
[x] Try willing a witch's worth of Grief into being Rochelle.
"The setting is ultimatelly controlled by a quest author who will probably let us fix everything including entropy" might make him cooperate with us. Of course, the problem is getting him to believe that.
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If somebody IRL told you that...What sort of evidence would you need to believe yourself to be in imaginary setting?
Far more likely for him to think Sabrina insaner.
We can perhaps do that, even if I think
[Eclipse] Will grief into being
might be more likely to work. (We can do complex compounds...Human is a complex compound.)
SV has trust issues
@Muramasa: I'd love to, but if we have to go, let it float like dust in the wind above our heads.
Or (mostly) feed back into Aurora/Hildegirl.
An idea: all grief compressed into dust feels very witchy.
But we can use small amount of grief as wrapping, either to make a pocket dimension or to make it invisible.
(If we can't make grief invisible, create two lens pairs and put grief in the middle with hole to conceal it from below/above, by letting the light go past through that hole.)
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