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Guilop said:
I understand your worries, but what can the University group even tell Ueda?
They don't really know us either.

We just barged in and tried to stop the conflict and then trounced Sendai and Fukushima when we got ambushed.
And we can control grief. We are kind of altruistic and like to meddle but are somewhat reasonable and a do-gooder that likes helping people.
They don't really know that much about us, that Ueda couldn't just figure out from our behaviour just now, on her own.
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As an addition to this:
One of the only important things she maybe wasn't entirely sure of, that I can think of right now, would be the true nature of Kirika's power, which we just now confirmed to all of Sendai. So that probably won't stay a secret for long anyway.

"Um... be ready to antimagic her if she tries to use her powers?" you ask. You glance around. There aren't any particularly deep shadows she could manipulate, so you think it should be OK. Not like she's demonstrated the ability to strangle you with them or something, anyway.
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@aeqnai: Upon relooking, my objection to that was about the 64%. Since there actually isn't a %....

[X] "Sabrina, the teenage witch, pleased to meet you."
-[X] If you're called by nicknames, reply back with nicknames.
[X] Check who is group's leader. Wake up, if needed.
[X] Chew leader for collateral. Thank Rin. Offer cleanses all around.
[X] Check how mercenary they are. Either make the same offer as to Sendai or one phrased as hiring offer with your terms of conduct.
[X] Make sure to tell all who accept seed rotation to call you when a seed gets full so you can make a quick trip.

@Guilop: Well, she left before that.

@Muramasa: Maybe because Akiko lied to us today to get our help, for example?
 
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Guilop said:
As an addition to this:
One of the only important things she maybe wasn't entirely sure of, that I can think of right now, would be the true nature of Kirika's power, which we just now confirmed to all of Sendai. So that probably won't stay a secret for long anyway.
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Ueda left the scene before we dropped that line, so they probably won't know about it. And Sendai, well, they already know what Kirika can do after we bushwhacked them at the radio tower, we're just really confirming what the know.
 
Firnagzen said:
The teleporter looks like she's sucking on an entire lemon as she grabs Yumi's hand, glaring sourly at the ground. She frowns, concentrating for a moment, before the pair of them snap away with the familiar noise.
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Followed a moment later by a call from Yumi: "Sabrina, I think you forgot to give Sakura back her Soul Gem."
Firnagzen said:
A stray thought crosses your brain - why don't the pointed bottoms of the Grief Seeds punch holes in the plastic bag?
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Because, in fact, that is exactly what I was thinking....
Firnagzen said:
Noa bows politely. "Thank you. I shall not get in the way, I merely wish to ask a few questions."
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Yep, she did have questions. Probably better that she's talking to UG than us, really.
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
Ueda is wondering how the interventionist grief controller is going to change the balance of power in this region. Based on that, she is going to make moves to secure her group's position. We better hope those moves don't involve conflict, but I'm not willing to make that bet. The less concrete information she has, the less likely she is to make drastic moves.

I mean, think about this. She practically jumped on the first opportunity she had to ask questions in private without us.
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She was also extremely careful to stay on our good side the moment we showed up and bagged Akiko. I suggested an opportunity to speak with her ourselves in the last vote, but that was ignored. If we don't care about that, I don't see why we suddenly want to interfere with her talking with other people.
Guilop said:
somewhat reasonable
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In the "everything's fine as long as no one disagrees with me" kind of way.

Will get on a review of the vote in another post, as I see it as having lots of problems.
 
Muramasa said:
[x] Ugolino

Though for whatever reason, it's the emergency call line that bothers me. And I can't put my finger on why...
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Is it the idea of them being getting themselves into trouble of their own making and trying to use us as a trump card? Because we'd probably want to talk to the other side too just like we did here- and we're spelling out our view of needless fighting and how we'd respond to it.
 
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Last names I like: Tyrannosaurus, Tomoe, Velocity, Victory, Velociraptor, Dedolere and now most recently, Spellman.

Re:Tokyo, I just hope we don't threaten to NUKE IT like in certain other quests, but we should bring Homura to make sure that totally happens.

I also advocate Sabrina starts humming the Sabrina the Teenage Witch theme song, then ask Mami if she wants to be Hilda or Zelda. Oriko becomes the other one. Kirika can be Salem. She'd probably start giddily roleplaying as him. Atleast she would in Confractum.
 
@AuraTwilight:
Re:Names: Also Miki.

Re:Tokyo: I don't understand, do you want or not want to threaten it?

Screw humming, we have orchestra of grief.

Not sure if appropriate though as I don't remember it. Maybe as a mood change?

@Ugolino:

...Not demanding, offering. Separately, even, if needed.

And having a double-sided coin is not always bad thing with more pragmatic minds, as with Kyoko.
(As opposed to currently where we're offering them 12 seeds per month and our help for nothing.)

Though honestly, like Crasian says they're strong, so if they don't accept such pact no big deal.
 
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AuraTwilight said:
Last names I like: Tyrannosaurus, Tomoe, Velocity, Victory, Velociraptor, Dedolere and now most recently, Spellman.
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I'm partial to Dedolere and Tomoe, myself.

I really want to see how Mami'd react to introducing ourselves as Sabrina Tomoe. Little worried it'd start awkward talks about the nature of our relationship with her though.

Ugolino said:
Hmm...Can you explain, please? Demanding something back from them might make them leery of accepting, and I'm not sure what we get out of it beyond the obvious (more firepower).
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Assistance with Wally maybe? We haven't actually brought that up with anybody outside of Mitakihara. More firepower on that monster is never a bad idea.
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
But if we're making not being mercenaries a condition, then that is income they lose directly. I suppose there's an unspoken threat that we'll come and force them to do things our way, but that's hardly something I'm willing to support.
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Firstly, the gains from having seeds cleansed are cumulative, regular, reliable, risk-free, and require no upfront magical expenditure. This is one hell of a big deal.

Secondly, somethingsomething declining marginal value of grief seeds.

Thirdly, making any kind of threat is redundant. When they acted against us, we shut them down. This is a thing which we already did. We can and will do so again, if necessary. We can, and plausibly might, do something worse.
If made aware that we don't want them waging war on other groups for seeds, do you really think they're going to want to push their luck?

Ueda is wondering how the interventionist grief controller is going to change the balance of power in this region. Based on that, she is going to make moves to secure her group's position. We better hope those moves don't involve conflict, but I'm not willing to make that bet. The less concrete information she has, the less likely she is to make drastic moves.
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'This region?' She lives hundreds of miles away.
What potentially disruptive information about us does UG actually have which we should seek to obfuscate? Introducing ambiguity regarding our motivations or behavior would actively increase the chance of them provoking conflict.
(More importantly, it increases the odds that she'll call on Sendai to fill in the gaps).
I mean, think about this. She practically jumped on the first opportunity she had to ask questions in private without us.
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Of course she did! Think about what she knows about this situation.
 
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I'm all for Tomoe at some point, while Dedolere is a bit...risky, depending on what Kyubey knows about Witch names.

Wally assistance would be nice, but I'm not sure we want to make it conditional for cleansing.
 
@Ugolino: Not for cleansing but for mutual assistance. Different things.

As for Tomoe, no. I don't hold Mami so high, but that doesn't seem to be wise to even ask permission for, if you want her to like others.

If you want Mami as your loyal servant, it is an excellent option though.

...Perhaps if we take her to Asunaro or the like. If she is more secure about us we could WB her sooner.
@FlatlineAskari: That we are inexperienced in combat? I don't know.
 
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Looking it over, yeah, offering to help them with their troubles might be abit risky at this stage. Offering the grief seed cleansing deal, yes, go ahead, but offering to help them in battles for no cost just introduces another hook to drag us out of Mitakihara to go gallivanting out in the middle of nowhere. I'd rather we not make that offer at this stage, not until we have a better idea of what's the situation in Fukushima, at least.
 
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