Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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- Panama City
It's not a matter of no trails, it's a matter of sheer distance. We don't have the communications tech to effectively govern such a distant province in the same manner as our closer provinces.
Then what is your suggestion? More boats? It is a neutral action.
Probably is very good. Literally as good as we can possibly get from a future event from AN.
So you are claiming him to be disloyal?
There's only really two reasons to make him king. Either we are desperate to end the crises (we're actually starting to turn it around) or we think he's disloyal and would run off with our march.
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More boats, teching in horse riders, or sucking it up and realizing there's only so much land we can govern without risking breakaway states.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Who wants a tally? I've got a tally!
I also have nifty music.
Ymrri playlist
Hopefully that worked. *Glances at the link suspiciously.*
I also have nifty music.
Ymrri playlist
Hopefully that worked. *Glances at the link suspiciously.*
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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I got you.
Indeed it is more trails.
This page say otherwise. Because of this, they were able to cover 250 miles per day. If we keep building new trails, we might get better roads. We are going to have to build an extensive network of relay stations, probably towers.
More boats and horses would help, and would combine with the relay system.
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- United States
"probably" is a 50/50 chance. We can avoid possible civil war by electing him as king.
Technically, yes. He believes that the people in charge are corrupt and do not have the people's best interest at heart, so he wants to be king and force reform (and remove the corrupt officials). It's more along of the lines of self-justification, but he's not purposefully malicious in his intent.
Ummm, I've just listed the reasons for electing him besides avoiding a possible civil war (which would be caused by unhappy Young Stallions, not specifically the hero ordering it).
Please stop ignoring my perfectly valid reasons and twisting facts around to suit your theory.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
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- Ranch
A harem could be another solution, having the king have wives from all the provincial governors would extend his rule and influence far beyond what mere technology could permit.
A system of hostage taking is also valid ( Japan and most ancients middle eastern civilizations ) as well as rotary succession of kings by provincial governors. Although the last is a disaster in the making.
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- Panama City
Still need to invest in inventing such a relay system, and trails isn't gonna help with THAT.
Which we might get from towers, and we do need good roads.
(Hopefully, we'll get drum communication. That will travel even faster, but it's not exactly a direct route.)
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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On tech stuff like relays. Art + watchtowers would be a good path I think.
*Warning this is pure speculation and should not be aimed for at this time. Thank you.*
There has never been a time better for me to use that.
Snubbing him just pisses off some of his fans, who might cause trouble. There is no chance of a civil war from that option short of the dice deciding to fuck us over, and at that point what we choose hardly matters.
We know he is loyal and honorable. We know that the March needs someone capable of leading it to make it secure.
What do we gain by forcing him to work on making the megaproject happen instead of trying to create military breakthroughs and securing our March?
You aren't trying to get a hero unit under our sway. You are trying to move a hero unit under our sway to where he is least effective.
If you genuinely believe he is super awesome, then the March is where he can do the most good.
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I've been thinking that for awhile.
DocMatoi
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But his viewpoint, especially the parts that we don't like, will be legitimized by him being in charge. It'll be that much harder to stamp out.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
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Abby Normal
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[X] Elect Cwriid heir (+1 Stability, Crisis Ends on his terms)
[X] Stop trading with both (-4 Diplomacy)
[X] We will find land for you to settle (-1 Stability, +2 Econ)
Might switch back later...almost wish we weren't doing the Law now; it would be easier to switch to a better tax system and back to more communal means if we weren't going to have our first real codification of laws occurring under Cwriid :/
[X] Stop trading with both (-4 Diplomacy)
[X] We will find land for you to settle (-1 Stability, +2 Econ)
Might switch back later...almost wish we weren't doing the Law now; it would be easier to switch to a better tax system and back to more communal means if we weren't going to have our first real codification of laws occurring under Cwriid :/
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- Panama City
More difficult, true, but not impossible. and the changes would be easier to spread with the idea of a formal code of laws in place.
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- United States
There has never been a time better for me to use that.
Snubbing him just pisses off some of his fans, who might cause trouble. There is no chance of a civil war from that option short of the dice deciding to fuck us over, and at that point what we choose hardly matters.
We know he is loyal and honorable. We know that the March needs someone capable of leading it to make it secure.
What do we gain by forcing him to work on making the megaproject happen instead of trying to create military breakthroughs and securing our March?
You aren't trying to get a hero unit under our sway. You are trying to move a hero unit under our sway to where he is least effective.
If you genuinely believe he is super awesome, then the March is where he can do the most good.
I'll modify my statement that probably is about 65% chance.
You are completely and totally underselling his influence.
His "fans" are an entire faction that is spread throughout our civ. There is a solid chance of civil war happening....after all, he's been snubbed several times and his faction has been growing restless.
We get stability, an immediate end to the crisis (with a communal hereditary land management change), a martial and diplo hero which will make a martial actions and diplo actions more effective (which we can agree we need since there's a war coming and we are spending about 1/2 our diplo trying to stay neutral), and we assimilate the March providence fully instead of letting it be estranged and independent.
Currently we have a legitimate chance of him breaking away from us, losing us the Marches and his abilities. If we take him in our civ will get the benefits of having him lead, and we'll still keep the Marches as a providence (with his kids leading there).
You're implying that he isn't super awesome; which he kinda is. Again, you're only saying that he would provide better leadership at the marches. I disagree, as him being king would extend benefits to the whole of our civ during a time of impending diplomatic tightrope walking and war. You're not being very convincing and it seems like you're just being stubborn.
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