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Adhoc vote count started by Malevolo on Feb 25, 2018 at 5:12 AM, finished with 145143 posts and 70 votes.
 
I'm inclined to agree, but do note that currently the best chance at stopping that vote is actually "[] Offer cheap credit to the Sketch and Kielmyr to cause more trouble (1.2x)" so since we have approval voting could I persuade you to throw that in to your vote? I'll toss the Monsoon Sea one in to mine in exchange, if that helps.

EDIT: I'm going offline soon so I'll just go ahead and do my end of the deal now. You're free to do yours or not as desired.

[X] Offer cheap credit to the Sketch and Kielmyr to cause more trouble (1.2x)
[X] Vortuga are distracted, blow up their Monsoon Sea trade posts (0.9x)

Thanks.
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)
[X] Offer cheap credit to the Sketch and Kielmyr to cause more trouble (1.2x)
[X] Vortuga are distracted, blow up their Monsoon Sea trade posts (0.9x)
 
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)
[X] Offer cheap credit to the Sketch and Kielmyr to cause more trouble (1.2x)
 
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)
[X] Vortuga are distracted, blow up their Monsoon Sea trade posts (0.9x)

Piracy have no traction, east side it is.
 
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)
[X] Offer cheap credit to the Sketch and Kielmyr to cause more trouble (1.2x)
 
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)
[X] You know who could use a whole bunch of angry philosophers taking about the obligations of the ruled and their rulers? The patchwork nightmare of provinces that is the Tortun (1.1x)
 
You know what?

[X] Vortuga are distracted, blow up their Monsoon Sea trade posts (0.9x)
[X] Halvyni are distracted, knock over their Undikus colonies (0.7x)
[X] Fan the flames, turn this colonial war into a Syffryn continental war! (1x)
[X] Offer cheap credit to the Sketch and Kielmyr to cause more trouble (1.2x)
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)
[X] Tortun is distracted, the Gylruv and Styrmyr could bite off eastern provinces! (1x)
[X] Whole lot of angry sailors there, they could make great privateers if hired by the right person (1.2x)
[X] You know who could use a whole bunch of angry philosophers taking about the obligations of the ruled and their rulers? The patchwork nightmare of provinces that is the Tortun (1.1x)

Chaos isn't a pit, chaos is a laddah!
 
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)
[X] Offer cheap credit to the Sketch and Kielmyr to cause more trouble (1.2x)
 
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)
[X] Tortun is distracted, the Gylruv and Styrmyr could bite off eastern provinces! (1x)
[X] You know who could use a whole bunch of angry philosophers taking about the obligations of the ruled and their rulers? The patchwork nightmare of provinces that is the Tortun (1.1x)
 
Well, they are Not!America, and so it's pretty likely that they'll manage to break off when most of the world is eager to use this rebellion for their own ends. Pretty interesting that they were formed by the dutch rather than the british tho, but it makes a certain historical sense, since the dutch colonized NA before the british in the OTL as well.
You know, I keep seeing this: I think they're actually not!Gran Colombia, not not!America
 
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)

[X] Vortuga are distracted, blow up their Monsoon Sea trade posts (0.9x)
[X] Halvyni are distracted, knock over their Undikus colonies (0.7x)

The first option just in general makes sense, and completes the unification. The second two are due to why we started getting into scuffles with the Europeans in the first place, both trade and slavery. So taking either of them out should help us due to an increase in trade revenues, able to take action on our beliefs particularly on slavery, does so while the Europeans are heavily distracted as they will place a vastly higher value on the safety of their homeland, and this means we can likely strengthen the polities that the Europeans have been exploiting whether that be those in India or in South East Asia.

It also in general means that the People exert their influence in this area, which means we can form connections with other plying the trade routes which importantly includes China and Japan, and given the Inca's still exist they are very likely on this trade route too. Particularly as China has a voracious appetite for Silver, and the Incans have a vast amount of it, and they don't need to do the wasteful economic shuffle just so Spain can get it's cut as the middleman in this time line so they can ply their trade directly over the Pacific Ocean.
 
Nice.
With the unification winning, only need to vote on this one.
[X] Offer cheap credit to the Sketch and Kielmyr to cause more trouble (1.2x)
Nothing wrong about the second winning vote but prefer this slightly.
 
[X] You know who could use a whole bunch of angry philosophers taking about the obligations of the ruled and their rulers? The patchwork nightmare of provinces that is the Tortun (1.1x)

It must be done. Do it not for your county, not for your king. Do it because the laughter of Crow echoing through the hills is the most pleasing of sounds.

Yes... Send in the clowns.
 
Also, as a minority religious group, wouldn't the Pruitians come to Us, The People who take in minority religious groups and not get shipped off the Americans?
Nah, in the OTL the Puritans hated the Anglicans running England so they went to the tolerant Dutch. But, see, the Puritans found the Dutch too tolerant, so they shoved off to North America.
 
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)
[X] You know who could use a whole bunch of angry philosophers taking about the obligations of the ruled and their rulers? The patchwork nightmare of provinces that is the Tortun (1.1x)
 
[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)

[X] Tortun is distracted, the Gylruv and Styrmyr could bite off eastern provinces! (1x)

Let's get Gylruv more territory and unite with them at the same time.

[X] Whole lot of angry sailors there, they could make great privateers if hired by the right person (1.2x)

I also wouldn't mind pirates that are on our side this time.
 
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[X] Enemies are distracted, take the time to finish unification with the Gylruv (1.2x)

[X] Tortun is distracted, the Gylruv and Styrmyr could bite off eastern provinces! (1x)

Let's get Gylruv more territory and unite with them at the same time.

We don't want Germany decide that we have the ITT version of Elsaß-Lothringen which they must reconquer. Better let them find reasons to war with their west, south and north while we trade with everyone, colonize Siberia and throw Vortuga out of Moonson Sea.
Remember, the age of nationalism is here, from now on just conquering stuff other people consider a core part of their ethnical land is going to have consequences.
 
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