- Location
- Canada
The Current Tally
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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- Original
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
Literally the opposite of what I was arguing...? Which was looking for our own metal sources locally.
I support those actions but we've literally never done Study Forest, haven't done Survey Lands as anything but a secondary, and should do Study Health more so that we can sell medical care and expound our spiritual truth to the world.
it's likely that each settlement will start autobuilding this if they see a need, as they see a need. It might be true for trails, too, where each new settlement agrees to make trails toward each other, with older trails providing funding against a promise that they'll do the same thing for another settlement further on, or something.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
@Academia Nut
Is it correct that i Interpret DP as early theocracy with early vassalage elements?
Thunder Horse as loose federation as the tribes are "united" under them?
Also, does our government know how much population we have and how much warriors we can draw upon?
Is it correct that i Interpret DP as early theocracy with early vassalage elements?
Thunder Horse as loose federation as the tribes are "united" under them?
Also, does our government know how much population we have and how much warriors we can draw upon?
But our new leader has sub-par martial! I think that we should instead do diplomacy with the Thunder Horses and the Highlands Kingdom- the nomads we might be able to get on our side for significantly longer if not permanently with the boost a heroic leader provides, and the HK will basically just be the WC all over again in terms of acting as a buffer state for us, except this time I think they have a reasonable chance of staying together which means that we should do what we can to butter them up.
We're voting for the hero unit, it'd be a waste to not use his unique skill to its greatest possible extent while he's still around.
- Location
- United States
@Academia Nut Can you describe the metal miner's capital in more detail please?
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
Remember that comet last turn? Yeah probably that roll. We should keep an eye out for that comet to come again though (unless it's a long period).
I have a feeling that Expand Forest might actually be a short term -Econ -Martial in exchange for a long term boost to Econ, Martial, and Mysticism.
Looks like military + trails + expand forest. Though in this case, military includes wall building.
- Location
- Staring into the void
Heroic diplomacy will give us the best chance of allying to the Northern nomads, which would take current and future pressure off that side, and enable us to focus entirely on the DP and lowlands for military projection.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
We do have war chief to manage the aspect that hero falls short on. And expand warrior doesn't take a martial hero to do.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
Walls cost econ, so I think that's going to lose to a straight-econ choice, or expand snails maybe.
Depends v strongly on the results of this vote on our society's stats and etc.
and on influencing the HK so they don't go and start attacking us.
- Location
- Canada
Here we reap the benefits of the sub-chief system. The military should become more proactive in expanding its numbers and codifying its doctrine and tactics.
- Location
- Panama City
better formatted tally:
Vote Tally : Paths of Civilization | Page 571 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.4
[X] Yes (Consumes Econ, establishes permanent oversea trade route with Metal Workers)
No. of Votes: 34
[X] Twythulmyn (Mediocre Martial, Average Econ, Heroic Diplomacy, probable two turn lifespan)
No. of Votes: 30
[X] Large increase to local power (Changes government type to Early Ancient Provincial Kingdom (Elected), alters action spread, completes prereqs for Scourge Warding early, miscellaneous effects)
No. of Votes: 30
[X] Standard
No. of Votes: 4
[X] Small increase to local power (Various effects, alters action spread)
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 34
Vote Tally : Paths of Civilization | Page 571 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.4
[X] Yes (Consumes Econ, establishes permanent oversea trade route with Metal Workers)
No. of Votes: 34
[X] Twythulmyn (Mediocre Martial, Average Econ, Heroic Diplomacy, probable two turn lifespan)
No. of Votes: 30
[X] Large increase to local power (Changes government type to Early Ancient Provincial Kingdom (Elected), alters action spread, completes prereqs for Scourge Warding early, miscellaneous effects)
No. of Votes: 30
[X] Standard
No. of Votes: 4
[X] Small increase to local power (Various effects, alters action spread)
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 34
- Location
- United States
@Academia Nut Will taking the diplo hero give us a bonus chance towards sailboat tech advancement?
- Location
- United States of America, Michigan
I think we should use a main trade mission to the HK so to take advantage of our hero and then do another main trade to the thunder horses to try and get another generation or two free of raiding.
- Location
- Illinois
[X] Twythulmyn (Mediocre Martial, Average Econ, Heroic Diplomacy, probable two turn lifespan)
[X] Yes (Consumes Econ, establishes permanent oversea trade route with Metal Workers)
[X] Large increase to local power (Changes government type to Early Ancient Provincial Kingdom, alters action spread, completes prereqs for Scourge Warding early, miscellaneous effects)
[X] Yes (Consumes Econ, establishes permanent oversea trade route with Metal Workers)
[X] Large increase to local power (Changes government type to Early Ancient Provincial Kingdom, alters action spread, completes prereqs for Scourge Warding early, miscellaneous effects)
- Location
- United States
Trade missions cost econ though...which we are currently low on.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
low being 4 going on, probably, 2. We most likely will have the econ to do a trade mission, and it's a long-term more valuable proposition than equally expensive military development.
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
@Academia Nut if we wanted to send people to that volcano that showed up in like turn 8, could we still do it? Like Trade Mission - Terrifying Mountain?
ABalloonyChaos
Drifts wherever the wind may take me.
- Location
- USA, up in the air.
[X] Twythulmyn (Mediocre Martial, Average Econ, Heroic Diplomacy, probable two turn lifespan)
[X] Yes (Consumes Econ, establishes permanent oversea trade route with Metal Workers)
[X] Large increase to local power (Changes government type to Early Ancient Provincial Kingdom, alters action spread, completes prereqs for Scourge Warding early, miscellaneous effects)
[X] Yes (Consumes Econ, establishes permanent oversea trade route with Metal Workers)
[X] Large increase to local power (Changes government type to Early Ancient Provincial Kingdom, alters action spread, completes prereqs for Scourge Warding early, miscellaneous effects)
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
"Trade Mission" Oh great kami of the fire and earth, to you we trade the bodies of ourselves and our innocent beasts of burden so that you might not bring terrible, burny doom to our people.
- Location
- United States
Ehh, i'll save my judgement on trade missions once we're at the next turn. Considering the Silver Tongue hero that we're putting in power, i'm gonna bet that he'll modify trade missions in some way, or unlock purely diplomatic missions.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I roll for "Challenges" of the age, and when I get sufficient interesting numbers in a tight cluster I will interpret that as a hero unit emerging.
See above. The star-axe (both times) was one of them.
DP are a theocracy with vassalage, yes. Thunder Horse and the nomads in general are normally chaotic with no central leadership, but have a high hero unit generation and have objects that can generate legitimacy for them to have lineages of more powerful leaders.
You have yet to find it, if it even exists (they may very well be a collection of people who follow a similar lifestyle like the nomads, you don't know). You just traded the shit out of their neighbours and periphery who had lots of metal from trade with the source.
Somewhat, yes.
Hmmm... the paths have generally been closed off due to the growth of other groups, but it is to the south of the Highland Kingdom, so send a trade route there first to potentially find out more. Or send one Into the Wild and hope for the best.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Twythulmyn (Mediocre Martial, Average Econ, Heroic Diplomacy, probable two turn lifespan)
[X] Yes (Consumes Econ, establishes permanent oversea trade route with Metal Workers)
[X] Large increase to local power (Changes government type to Early Ancient Provincial Kingdom, alters action spread, completes prereqs for Scourge Warding early, miscellaneous effects)
[X] Yes (Consumes Econ, establishes permanent oversea trade route with Metal Workers)
[X] Large increase to local power (Changes government type to Early Ancient Provincial Kingdom, alters action spread, completes prereqs for Scourge Warding early, miscellaneous effects)
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
So, I'm looking at what we should be doing next turn, based on what we've been talking about, our current stats, our new hero's stats, and the new government type. This is all pretty malleable based on what happens, but I'm thinking this:
[FUT][Main] Build Wall - Lower Valleyhome
[FUT][Secondary] Trade Mission - Highland Kingdom / Thunderhorse
[FUT][Secondary] Expand Farms / Expand Fishing
So, the logic here is that the village chiefs should take care of minor walls around their settlements. It's prudent and seems like something they would do. However, Lower Valleyhome is right in the firing line. It needs a wall like Redshore(which ironically never needed it), especially if the DP come in force. Next up, if we are sporting a Trader Hero Chief, we should use him and get the most out of it. Firming up our ties with the Thunderhorse for more than just a generation or two is absolutely necessary if we are even thinking about conflict with the Dead Priests; a conflict that is looking ever more likely, even if we don't start it. Equally, setting up or sealing ties with our southern neighbors is also fairly necessary. Not to be cold, but they're our best meatshield. (Edit: According to AN, we have a chance of finding that elusive volcano if we go that way.) Finally, we do need to keep our Econ up. While we can certainly go towards zero, our people have become inured to a ridiculous abundance of food. This will only get worse as our population starts living longer with the lack of certain diseases. With a war in the wings that will be eating up a secondary action, we should aim to keep our econ up/raise it while we can.
I would continue on to do the next turn after or two, but I've realized that it's entirely useless to do so. Too much happens and the dice are fickle creatures.
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- Location
- United States
I'm thinking that, if we were to send a trade mission to the TH, it should be a main action. Also, we should expand forests in our northern settlements. That would give us econ and act as a natural barrier against any nomadic raids (in case the trade mission doesn't net us better relations, and they'll still come at us in 2 turns).
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
Umm, is a meteor basically like a 1 on that roll?