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Adhoc vote count started by PurposefulZephyr on Feb 17, 2018 at 4:09 PM, finished with 141771 posts and 83 votes.
 
We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Ymar,
we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our land, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender! Death to the barbarians!

I'm sure the Japanese said something similar during World War II.
 
We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Ymar,
we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our land, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender! Death to the barbarians!
Or we could at least try with bribe and peace? Tbh, it's not even guaranteed to work, so we could still have your glorious fight.
 
[x] [Steppe] Send the traditionally determined bribes (x2)
Let's at least try to pay him.
if the fifty guys voting for the 0.1 vote could change their vote we'd actually have a chance for this to work.
 
No it makes Complete Sense, because that cultural behavior reflects our play-style which always favored towards isolationism

We Never sought diplomatical Ties if we could avoid nor took we ever any Trading or diplomatical actions After King of the Hill Never, because we never had to with the drip

So it makes sende that the people we have Reigned over since the Dawn of Time are in favor of Political Choices that lead to their success in the last
Thing is that isn't really true. The whole point of maxxed out diplo was that we were in constant contact with everyone involved. We literally couldn't possibly have more relations with them, it'd just overflow into our other stats.

The big thing is the International Games and PiA. Both of them should be showing that we aren't massively better than everyone else. We've been almost humiliated in the games repeatedly.

And with PK, the leaders shouldn't have time to get used to everything before something shifts. Our cultural foundations should be constantly evolving thanks to that value (though not always in a good direction)
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Motoko on Feb 17, 2018 at 4:12 PM, finished with 141779 posts and 83 votes.
 
Tbh, we never went that much with isolationism

We were completly isolationistic with our playstyle and we were Happy with it
We Never pursued diplomatical Ties outside of war and war in Defense of others
Most news we got were from refugees or People Coming to us
We Never went to look for other People
We Never took Diplo actions or anything in that direction because we always favored other actions and now we 'Pay' for it with a civ that reflects our play Style with their narrative

Thats what this weigthing is about, Not only about actions we have taken, but also about actions we have Never taken
 
Guys if 3 or so people switch from ignore to bribe it'll win
96 actual for bribe vs the 112 for ignore
 
Thing is that isn't really true. The whole point of maxxed out diplo was that we were in constant contact with everyone involved. We literally couldn't possibly have more relations with them, it'd just overflow into our other stats.
Being in constant contact doesn't equate to getting involved in their affairs though. OTL Imperial China for instance had contact with everyone around, but unless they directly affected China or contradicted the Mandate of Heaven the Chinese didn't give a crap about what the barbarians were getting up to.
 
[X] [Steppe] Ignore the upstart, he will dash his forces against the People if he dares further action (x8)
[X] [Steppe] Ignore the upstart, he will dash his forces against the People if he dares further action (x8)
[X] [Steppe] Ignore the upstart, he will dash his forces against the People if he dares further action (x8)
Guys think about it! will the new warlord get more pissed of if we ignore him or if we bribe him?
 
So all it takes is one potential troll to mess up the efforts of 10 people?

I WARNED ALL OF YOU ABOUT SOCIAL STRATIFICATION./s(sorta kinda, seriously da heeeeeeck).

I for one, welcome not!Genghis' cleansing fire because clearly some of us have gotten uppity.

No longer are we worthy of the throne if this is how we respond.

[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)
 
[x] [Steppe] Send the traditionally determined bribes (x2)

[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)

[X] [Steppe] The steppes are clearly in need of their generational cleaning up (x10)

Active participation better than passives.
 
So all it takes is one potential troll to mess up the efforts of 10 people?

I WARNED ALL OF YOU ABOUT SOCIAL STRATIFICATION./s(sorta kinda, seriously da heeeeeeck).

I for one, welcome not!Genghis' cleansing fire because clearly some of us have gotten uppity.

No longer are we worthy of the throne if this is how we respond.

[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)
Dead vote, traditional bribe if want peace, the usual.
 
So all it takes is one potential troll to mess up the efforts of 10 people?

I WARNED ALL OF YOU ABOUT SOCIAL STRATIFICATION./s(sorta kinda, seriously da heeeeeeck).

I for one, welcome not!Genghis' cleansing fire because clearly some of us have gotten uppity.

No longer are we worthy of the throne if this is how we respond.
It's not social stratification in this case, it's cultural chauvinism. The Ymaryn are pre-disposed to thinking that nomads are worthless vermin. In any case please vote for something with more weight, like Bribes.
 
Thing is that isn't really true. The whole point of maxxed out diplo was that we were in constant contact with everyone involved. We literally couldn't possibly have more relations with them, it'd just overflow into our other stats.

The big thing is the International Games and PiA. Both of them should be showing that we aren't massively better than everyone else. We've been almost humiliated in the games repeatedly.

And with PK, the leaders shouldn't have time to get used to everything before something shifts. Our cultural foundations should be constantly evolving thanks to that value (though not always in a good direction)
We were in contact because everyone came into contact with us, not because we put effort into making contact with others.

Honestly, our neighbors are probably super weird because of us. They pretty much have a super powerful empire that just sits there and hands out innovations to anyone willing to keep in contact and not be total dicks. We're also the place where you can meet any other nation that you know about on semi-friendly terms, which has to be great for their diplomacy.

And the fact that the Ymaryn don't collapse or invade others means that they have one mostly stable border at pretty much all times, and also means that trade is almost always flowing to at least a small extent.

Too bad people seem intent on making the Ymaryn fight a Khan tho. Except for the one time, we've always offered a bribe to warlords, so ignoring them is actually going against Ymaryn traditions.
 
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