Yeah, and that's the reason @PrimalShadow talks about it in his example - even with relatively ineffective policy switching, we still get a "2 infrastructure progress left over, +2 Econ, +2 LTE, and +2 forestry innovation chances, all for the cost of being down a single secondary".
How... dere of them.
Can we see the Academy action since our awesome King didn't take it?
Last time I'll ask, I promise
Was this not moved to the general budget? If so, we should have 1 less wealth.
I guess we got an extra 2 martial from the Nomads?
I really think we should look into eating our colonies...
I mean, okay. I'd would just say that wraps back around to my argument of 'this is a horrible waste of stats' then and that we're approaching it wrong, because offering actual support seems like it would garner the same amount of favor.
Does running them on Wealth rather than adding them to our martial have much impact on Loyalty?
Influence makes them more like us and makes their loyalty less likely to drop in the future. It also has far better narrative effects re: them not splitting away from us.
Not much glory or loot for all their recent bleeding, huh.
Should this be "overt?"
Infrastructure action, or regular?
That would require us to improve our administrative and transport technology to make them integratable...and for that matter likely would require them to not be on the border to rebelling already?
Thing is, they don't really need actual support - if they did, they wouldn't seek independence. Influence actually reduces their desire/ability to go independent, while Support would just give them more things to go independent with.
I can somewhat accept these on a narrative level. My problem is the rewards don't even remotely reflect this. Like, not even in a 'well in certain situations this is better,' sort of deal. This means that either support subordinate is grossly over represented in terms of effectiveness, or influence subordinate is grossly under represented in terms of effectiveness.
Well, first, I did say 'look into'. Second, we should be able to integrate the Western Wall relatively soon.
It requires lots of Wealth and Martial, both of which we're short on.
True on the first part, and i agree, though on the latter, unfortunately we won't:
(To clarify, the "palace section" is western walls capital province with their True City and most of their infrastructure and the like)
More cities -> More Vassal Support policies.
Well. Maybe it is? I didn't exactly analyse the text, but it seems pretty clear that propping up works better when they actually need it, and that influence works better if we want them to behave to our likening.
I suppose we could double that react option and have a chance at it, if we're allowed to double that react option. Probably best to not rush to the next Patrician quest, though...
Roads are reasonably likely; the pace just can't be crazy. All we have to do is take PSN and avoid Enforce Justice.
We now also have a Yandere Horse?
