Hopefully, this leads to the development of more sophisticated diplomacy where we can say that we are sending diplomats to talk things out.
@Academia Nut
No discoveries from the forests? :/
Paths of Civilization
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Hopefully, this leads to the development of more sophisticated diplomacy where we can say that we are sending diplomats to talk things out.
@Academia Nut
No discoveries from the forests? :/
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The People certainly believe in magic.
Problem-Mystic covers a very broad range of things.
It isn't really a problem to ignore it. Being King of the Hill isn't really important for us since it only gets us into Take the Crown wars, and we have plenty of open subordinate slots, so loosing prestige doesn't really hurt us.
It is annoying, that is all.
Legion0047
Retired Shadowrunner.
- Location
- Austria
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- God Emperor
[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)
- Location
- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
Hm. So his words have some weight.
Even if there is no such thing as astrology actually predicting stuff in this universe...
People, could following that prediction allow us to lose the Nemesis Fashion maybe?
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
In Service to Order (PiA Linked)
Order and stability are paramount, and any king who cannot maintain that needs to be replaced in short order.
Pros: First stability hit a turn is negated
Cons: At negative stability, lose 1 Legitimacy a phase
So looking at this we only can stop a stab it once a turn, while their are about 4 phases a turn, meaning that at negative stab for a whole turn will drive us down to negative legitimacy.
This mean we can and will be fucked horribly if we fight a peer war.
Order and stability are paramount, and any king who cannot maintain that needs to be replaced in short order.
Pros: First stability hit a turn is negated
Cons: At negative stability, lose 1 Legitimacy a phase
So looking at this we only can stop a stab it once a turn, while their are about 4 phases a turn, meaning that at negative stab for a whole turn will drive us down to negative legitimacy.
This mean we can and will be fucked horribly if we fight a peer war.
- Location
- Mists of Albion
Yes you are so right their noble education, not based too much around religion due to how our society is built, totally stopped them from bringing it up. And it totally wasn't the Priests who shot it down.
Yep. Religion didn't succeed where education failed.
We're going to take some serious shit from the Priests if we ignore this, aren't we?
None of which include predicting the future beyond the cycle of the seasons. Voting yes here will set a precedent of having our policy driven by superstitious drivel.
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- United States
Picking up a scroll, the Spirit Chief unrolled it to reveal something of a mess of astrological calculations scribbled everywhere that Hertythyn could only vaguely follow due to his knowledge of administrative math.
So the spirit touched is super good at math.
"The gods command it. We do it all to gain their favour, or we should prepare for whatever disaster their displeasure brings down upon us," the Spirit Chief stated plainly.
So if we don't do this, Hertythyn will start preparing for the disaster brought upon by the Spirits, for good or ill.
[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)
I'm gonna trust our genius mystic, and we get to use our intervention CB against the Thunder Horse, who have been consistently snubing us and will undoubtedly declare war on us as soon as we are busy with someone else.
This gives us an excuse to knock their teeth in, and our civ going towards making friends with the Highlanders will give us an excuse to try and diplo annex them.
So the spirit touched is super good at math.
"The gods command it. We do it all to gain their favour, or we should prepare for whatever disaster their displeasure brings down upon us," the Spirit Chief stated plainly.
So if we don't do this, Hertythyn will start preparing for the disaster brought upon by the Spirits, for good or ill.
[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)
I'm gonna trust our genius mystic, and we get to use our intervention CB against the Thunder Horse, who have been consistently snubing us and will undoubtedly declare war on us as soon as we are busy with someone else.
This gives us an excuse to knock their teeth in, and our civ going towards making friends with the Highlanders will give us an excuse to try and diplo annex them.
I mean, the aftermath of our first ever attempt at violently annexing a culturally strong entity will probably not be nice in terms of moderator work load, so I could totally understand it if he tried to steer us away from it.
- Location
- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
And that means Priests will be virtuous forever with no problems at all. Because they're just the better people. Sure, dude.
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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Some highlights since it'll take a while for the actual analysis:
@Academia Nut some questions (again, the highlights before the proper analysis:
(Also minor thing but isn't it "Dominating" that you've been standardizing these to, instead of dominant?)
Edit: Also, if possible, the listing for the Artisan Competitions and Ironworks megaprojects, since we should have unlocked both; if nothing else they'll be good to actually create useful discussion instead of just more sniping
Also, no quote for this one, but did we get anything innovation wise from study forest?
Edit: Also, how long do we have the HK CB for, and is Hertythn likely to still be in control next turn?
Edit 2 : ...Also, have we used our In Service to Order stab negation yet this turn, or do we still have it available?
New techs!
-1 Loyalty and Dependence from Gulvalley (loyalty likely from lack of integration or help after they almost died), -1 dependency for heaven's hawk, i guess from new trade ties with friendly tribes and fewer hostile tribes?
@Academia Nut some questions (again, the highlights before the proper analysis:
This should be 8 now, shouldn't it? I can't imagine the new settlement wasn't the one for the new province. Also, damn, how well have we been rolling to keep Pop Explosion from downgrading? its been like 3 or 4 turns since you first said there was a decent chance of it downgrading, right?
Now that we have a dominant strategic trade good, can you tell us more about what it gives us? It looks like it gives a full wealth on its own instead of needing to be paired, but i might have just missed another wealth source in my skimming.
(Also minor thing but isn't it "Dominating" that you've been standardizing these to, instead of dominant?)
Just to confirm, the stab hit is per turn, not phase or update? So back during the great power war, it would have only helped with the first stab hit (which i think was from kicking war missions), but not any others during the war phases, but the negative would have affected us for each phase after we kicked to negative stab?
Since we wont be seeing the action list for a while, can you give the listing for these, please, since we have one now?
Edit: Also, if possible, the listing for the Artisan Competitions and Ironworks megaprojects, since we should have unlocked both; if nothing else they'll be good to actually create useful discussion instead of just more sniping
Can you confirm how much econ worth of refugees we took in? That variable value will make the analysis so much harder otherwise
Also, no quote for this one, but did we get anything innovation wise from study forest?
Edit: Also, how long do we have the HK CB for, and is Hertythn likely to still be in control next turn?
Edit 2 : ...Also, have we used our In Service to Order stab negation yet this turn, or do we still have it available?
I think that was Pride in Acceptance working through the games... AN?
She's only coming out of retirement due to the prophecy, though. Otherwise we'll likely let her rest until/unless the war goes terribly.
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- US
[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)
I think it's at least a first step.
Neat. They started data mining and statistical analysis. They just need to figure out cause and effect.
In this case, whatever we do here on earth is utterly irrelevant to the weather. But I expect they noticed some recurring weather patterns and we are going to get hit by a bigger disturbance.
Any chance that our King is sensible enough to still prepare for the worst even if No wins?
So it's intentionally obtuse bullshit. Most fortunetelling is.
No, it will just shift the target.
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- Mists of Albion
And now you're putting words in my mouth when I disprove your argument.
Very classy.
Never said they were incrorruptable, but they are harder to corrupt as we have built them and have been better at holding back corruption then other forms. With a lack of political power there really is no point in corrupting them thta much anyway.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
So who's willing to bet that the highlanders 'convinced' our mystic hero feed us BS to save themselves?
PyroTechno
The Procrastination Pokemon
[X] No (???)
Okay, we've got Astrology, now let's eat the RA hit (?) and debunk the prophecy part. Cross your fingers for Astronomy, everyone.
And also the Highland Kingdom must be destroyed
Okay, we've got Astrology, now let's eat the RA hit (?) and debunk the prophecy part. Cross your fingers for Astronomy, everyone.
And also the Highland Kingdom must be destroyed
- Location
- United States
The Thunder Horse aren't our nemesis.
Following the prediction would be us using the Intervention CB, which is only available in order to protect the Swamp Folk and get the Thunder Horse to back off.
We would be doing it on the behalf of another, which would mean we're not doing it because we hate the Thunder Horse.
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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Yeah, it'll probably make us switch out our PiA value for one of the Thunder Horse ones.