That's because it's still last update's stat line, Killer_Whale.
Wait for AN to finish writing up all our subordinate loyalties and such, it'll take a while.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
Wait for AN to finish writing up all our subordinate loyalties and such, it'll take a while.
- Location
- The willow crowned hill
- Pronouns
- She/They
Currently considering:
[] [Policy] Innovation (Extra innovation roll each turn)
[] [Vassal] Curb rights of expansion (-4 Diplo, converts to march [keeps current extra provinces])
[] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[] [Boats] Multi-hulled
[] [React] Redshore is getting crowded, improve sanitation (2*-3 Econ, -6 Art, Redshore receives aqueduct)
[] [Refugee] Take in a few (Chance of Stability loss, +2 Econ)
or
[] [React] Reassure everyone that the kingdom is stable (-6 Art, -2 Econ, +2 Stability, two potential +1 Prestige)
[] [Refugee] Bring in as many people as physically possible (-4 Stability, chance of further loss, Txolla -1 Loyalty, -2 Diplomacy, chance of angering the Trelli, +11-14 Econ, definite overcrowding)
[] [Policy] Innovation (Extra innovation roll each turn)
[] [Vassal] Curb rights of expansion (-4 Diplo, converts to march [keeps current extra provinces])
[] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[] [Boats] Multi-hulled
[] [React] Redshore is getting crowded, improve sanitation (2*-3 Econ, -6 Art, Redshore receives aqueduct)
[] [Refugee] Take in a few (Chance of Stability loss, +2 Econ)
or
[] [React] Reassure everyone that the kingdom is stable (-6 Art, -2 Econ, +2 Stability, two potential +1 Prestige)
[] [Refugee] Bring in as many people as physically possible (-4 Stability, chance of further loss, Txolla -1 Loyalty, -2 Diplomacy, chance of angering the Trelli, +11-14 Econ, definite overcrowding)
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Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Civ Sheet isn't up yet, and i need to get to bed, but some highlights:
WOw the palace gave us a lot of info... @Academia Nut this might end up on the civ sheet, but if not can you share the list of provinces we have now?
...Whyyyy???
Woo!
WOw the palace gave us a lot of info... @Academia Nut this might end up on the civ sheet, but if not can you share the list of provinces we have now?
...I want! Especially if it also removes the Econ Slot requirements...
...Shit i want this too
...Also this!
And this...
And this... so we should see if we can get more policy slots...
We'll need to see what teh civ sheet says about their loyalty, but i think we should do something here, yeah
...I really can't tell if AN bases the Mill tech ups on discussion, or if he just keeps randomly rolling things that have been discussed
Oooh, interesting...
Hmm...this sounds like we got a full design boost out of it?
MWahahahahaha! And so our climate bonuses come to fruition =D
Why uh oh? That was what we had already?
- Location
- Hell
derp forgot, it didn't include the expansions
- Location
- Staring into the void
Current preferred vote
[] [Policy] Innovation (Extra innovation roll each turn)
[] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[] [Boats] Multi-hulled
[] [React] Begin Census (-4 Mysticism, 2-3? Actions)
[] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
[] [Policy] Innovation (Extra innovation roll each turn)
[] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[] [Boats] Multi-hulled
[] [React] Begin Census (-4 Mysticism, 2-3? Actions)
[] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
JUST DO IT! Forest and road!
[X] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
[X] [Policy] Special: Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[X] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[X] [Boats] Bigger bottoms
[X] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
Edit: Sub-state happiness and dependency ST and Hatvalley is able to break-off if they really want to, better eat them first.
[X] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
[X] [Policy] Special: Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[X] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[X] [Boats] Bigger bottoms
[X] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
Edit: Sub-state happiness and dependency ST and Hatvalley is able to break-off if they really want to, better eat them first.
Periphery States (8/7+3) (Loyalty:L, Dependence
Stallion Tribes (March) - Eliminates raids from the north and mitigates raids from the east, can provide military advances and supports the Western Wall (L: 4/5, D: 2/5)
Western Wall (Colony) - Expands to produce new provinces and find new resources, and can take be brought into wars to the north and west (L: 5/5, D: 1/5)
Hatvalley (Colony) - Expands to produce new provinces and find new resources, and can take be brought into wars to the south, south-east, and south-west (L: 4/5, D: 1/5)
Greenshore Trading Post (Trading Post) - Increases trade power for all Metal Worker products, provides a market for an extra saltern (L: 5/5, D:4/4)
Red Banner Company (Mercenary Company) - Can be hired to other kingdoms for wealth, or maintained to boost Martial capacity (L: 5/5)
Heaven's Hawks (March) - Eliminates raids from the north-east, can provide military advances and supports the Stallion Tribes (L: 3/5, D: 3/5)
Txolla (Vassals) - Foreign territory under your control, follows you in war but has own agenda (L: 4/5, D: 4/5)
Tinriver Trading Post (Trading Post) - Increases trade power for all Tin Tribe products, provides a market for an extra saltern (L: 5/5, D: 5/4)
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- Pronouns
- They/Them
So, any bets on what will happen if we deliberately try to trigger a slave revolt for the Trelli?
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
- Pronouns
- He/Him
- Location
- United States
[] [Policy] Special: Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
This will be important for the Grand Dock, as well as for LTE, but I'm flexible on it.
[] [Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)
This is also good, because it would help keep our subordinates in line, who are likely all larger than they should be and thus more likely to break away.
[] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
We need to get them to stop picking fights, but their shouldn't be anything wrong with their continued expansion.
[] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
We have the stats to spare, and this seems like a good thing to encourage.
[] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
We're a palace economy that relies on high cent, we should take advantage of the chance to get closer to increasing the cap.
[] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
Not sure of the Lowland's loyalty, but not sure if I want to risk pissing them off. Plus, we still have Baby Boom, so we should avoid overcrowding.
This will be important for the Grand Dock, as well as for LTE, but I'm flexible on it.
[] [Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)
This is also good, because it would help keep our subordinates in line, who are likely all larger than they should be and thus more likely to break away.
[] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
We need to get them to stop picking fights, but their shouldn't be anything wrong with their continued expansion.
[] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
We have the stats to spare, and this seems like a good thing to encourage.
[] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
We're a palace economy that relies on high cent, we should take advantage of the chance to get closer to increasing the cap.
[] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
Not sure of the Lowland's loyalty, but not sure if I want to risk pissing them off. Plus, we still have Baby Boom, so we should avoid overcrowding.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Anyone know their boats well enough to say what we'd get out of each of these?
Come on man, don't be voting before we even know what our stats are.
Woah, we have 2 stats capped - if we take the Stability boost, we could get a Golden Age this turn!
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BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Neat, these dropped the "early".
Ooh nifty.
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
- Location
- United States
[X] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
[X] [Policy] Special: Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[X] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[X] [Boats] Bigger bottoms
[X] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
[X] [Policy] Special: Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[X] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[X] [Boats] Bigger bottoms
[X] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
- Location
- Hell
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] [Policy] Innovation (Extra innovation roll each turn)
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[X] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[X] [Boats] Multi-hulled
[X] [React] Begin Census (-4 Mysticism, 2-3? Actions)
[X] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[X] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
[X] [Boats] Multi-hulled
[X] [React] Begin Census (-4 Mysticism, 2-3? Actions)
[X] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
Important info!Periphery States (8/7+3) (Loyalty:L, Dependence
Stallion Tribes (March) - Eliminates raids from the north and mitigates raids from the east, can provide military advances and supports the Western Wall (L: 4/5, D: 2/5)
Western Wall (Colony) - Expands to produce new provinces and find new resources, and can take be brought into wars to the north and west (L: 5/5, D: 1/5)
Hatvalley (Colony) - Expands to produce new provinces and find new resources, and can take be brought into wars to the south, south-east, and south-west (L: 4/5, D: 1/5)
Greenshore Trading Post (Trading Post) - Increases trade power for all Metal Worker products, provides a market for an extra saltern (L: 5/5, D:4/4)
Red Banner Company (Mercenary Company) - Can be hired to other kingdoms for wealth, or maintained to boost Martial capacity (L: 5/5)
Heaven's Hawks (March) - Eliminates raids from the north-east, can provide military advances and supports the Stallion Tribes (L: 3/5, D: 3/5)
Txolla (Vassals) - Foreign territory under your control, follows you in war but has own agenda (L: 4/5, D: 4/5)
Tinriver Trading Post (Trading Post) - Increases trade power for all Tin Tribe products, provides a market for an extra saltern (L: 5/5, D: 5/4)
- Pronouns
- He/Him
You had basically run past the rest of your admin tech-ups, so the last piece to be able to go further was the palace. That's what that massive amount of strain was about - you needed to build the infrastructure to move to the next phase of development.
Other groups that built the Grand Palace already are still administratively behind you in a number of ways, but they developed new components over time instead of all at once.
I will update them when I do the next main turn... when I will be updating everything. All of your actions have changed how they work.
Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
- Location
- Behind you~
[X] [Policy] Infrastructure (+1 Free Progress to an infrastructure project (Aqueduct, governor's palace, saltern, etc.)/turn)
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[X] [Mech] Limited royal patronage (-2 Art, -2 Mystic, -2 Wealth, further progress made)
[X] [Boats] Bigger bottoms
[X] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
[X] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
Infrastructure policy is AMAZING. Free stats are garbo compared to the action economy for progress that it gives. Innovation policy would be okay but Infra is stable and gives us so much.
Vassal not being able to war is more important because we damn well don't need them picking a fight with the Swamp Folk or Thunder Speakers again any time soon now that we're getting into it with the Trelli.
Decent patronage on the mills but not so much to risk too much Wealth on it.
Boats--multi-hulled are a little weird. Historically as far as I can tell they were limited to relatively small craft mostly out in the Polynesians aside from a couple one-off examples elsewhere. Multi-hulled is technically more stable than other craft of the same size but no one ever really seems to have gotten it big enough to care about compared to the real monsters. We have longboats, we need to go BIG now.
And don't go overboard and piss off the vassals just yet, we don't need the econ that badly while the baby boom is running.
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
[X] [Mech] Limited royal patronage (-2 Art, -2 Mystic, -2 Wealth, further progress made)
[X] [Boats] Bigger bottoms
[X] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
[X] [Refugee] Take in more than a few (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
Infrastructure policy is AMAZING. Free stats are garbo compared to the action economy for progress that it gives. Innovation policy would be okay but Infra is stable and gives us so much.
Vassal not being able to war is more important because we damn well don't need them picking a fight with the Swamp Folk or Thunder Speakers again any time soon now that we're getting into it with the Trelli.
Decent patronage on the mills but not so much to risk too much Wealth on it.
Boats--multi-hulled are a little weird. Historically as far as I can tell they were limited to relatively small craft mostly out in the Polynesians aside from a couple one-off examples elsewhere. Multi-hulled is technically more stable than other craft of the same size but no one ever really seems to have gotten it big enough to care about compared to the real monsters. We have longboats, we need to go BIG now.
And don't go overboard and piss off the vassals just yet, we don't need the econ that badly while the baby boom is running.
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Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
- Location
- Bedroom
- Pronouns
- He/Him
OH THANK GOD I JUST WOKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
PALACE-KUN ILU
passive focus passive !!! Someone hold meeeeee
PALACE-KUN ILU
passive focus passive !!! Someone hold meeeeee
I am much more interested in this. Because if The Law counts as a 'capstone project', that would mean...better palace types? What does 'model' mean in this case anyway?
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] [Boats] Multi-hulled
First things first. I WANT MY CATAMARANS. They're fast as fuck and don't sink. 22knots fast. You can also pile archers on them like nobodies business.
This whole update was fucking amazing. We now have a much better idea of how our society operates and we have established a proper palace economy.
First things first. I WANT MY CATAMARANS. They're fast as fuck and don't sink. 22knots fast. You can also pile archers on them like nobodies business.
This whole update was fucking amazing. We now have a much better idea of how our society operates and we have established a proper palace economy.
- Location
- Canada
[X] [Mech] Generous royal patronage (-3 Art, -3 Mystic, -3 Wealth, significant progress made)
For sure I'm picking policy infrastructure no two ways about it.
[X] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
More trails!!
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
Just focus on expansion for now my little ones.
[X] [Policy] Infrastructure (+1 Free Progress to an infrastructure project (Aqueduct, governor's palace, saltern, etc.)/turn)
Sweet passive policy!
[X] [Refugee] Take in a few (Chance of Stability loss, +2 Econ)
May change this probably.
[X] [Boats] Multi-hulled
For sure I'm picking policy infrastructure no two ways about it.
[X] [React] Tie everyone closer together (-2 Econ, +2 Centralization, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Cent Cap Progress, other effects)
More trails!!
[X] [Vassal] Curb rights of war (-4 Diplo, converts to colony)
Just focus on expansion for now my little ones.
[X] [Policy] Infrastructure (+1 Free Progress to an infrastructure project (Aqueduct, governor's palace, saltern, etc.)/turn)
Sweet passive policy!
[X] [Refugee] Take in a few (Chance of Stability loss, +2 Econ)
May change this probably.
[X] [Boats] Multi-hulled