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You know, part of the reason I don't really feel all that bad about destroying Xohyr may be due to the fact that this reminded me heavily of the 'save or destroy amaranthine' decision in Dragon Age. It's different in that it's a hostile city, and not filled with soul tainting monsters, but the situation just feels so similar...

 
Genocides happen all the time in human history, i doubt this will be the last one
 
Timewinders said:
The Ymaryn have been at risk of splintering for a long time now. That's what happens when you don't integrate the stallions or build a palace.
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Nope it was explicit that phrygrif would essentially put us on a countdown to solve the drift before we splinter. Otherwise splintering was just a likely outcome of things going to shit.
 
Academia Nut said:
You know, there is definitely something dark lurking within the People. They know they have to fuck up the lowlands but don't want to get their hands dirty, so they have repeatedly found ways for the nomads to do it for them. It's kind of interesting to think about.
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This might be me talking out my ass, but my take on it is that the core of the people's morality has always been about looking after each other. If you boil away everything that the people have been willing to bend or discard if pressed that's what's left. When they can the people reach for more, but only when they can. It's not quite patriotism, but it's something very much like it. On on individual scale that shows up as a willingness to cooperate and advance the common good, but on a nation state scale, it's a cold calculating ruthlessness. The blackest of deeds is seen as bad only to the extent that the people are harmed by staining their hands, hence the use of proxies when possible. But hard times are when you need to take a lesser harm to stave off a greater one, and If the king needs to stain the people hands red and water their crops with the blood of others, so be it.
 
random_npc said:
This might be me talking out my ass, but my take on it is that the core of the people's morality has always been about looking after each other. If you boil away everything that the people have been willing to bend or discard if pressed that's what's left. When they can the people reach for more, but only when they can. It's not quite patriotism, but it's something very much like it. On on individual scale that shows up as a willingness to cooperate and advance the common good, but on a nation state scale, it's a cold calculating ruthlessness. The blackest of deeds is seen as bad only to the extent that the people are harmed by staining their hands, hence the use of proxies when possible. But hard times are when you need to take a lesser harm to stave off a greater one, and If the king needs to stain the people hands red and water their crops with the blood of others, so be it.
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*cough*cough*


Herd Mentality. Called it a while back. Could be good, but could also be bad.
 
Xantalos said:
Admittedly, that was partially our fault too.
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Eh, not really. They were fucked the moment the TH realized that there was nothing stopping them from raiding their lands anymore. The only thing we did was slghtly delay their forces, which pushed it towards an outcome we had no idea was possible.

Intent matters, after all.
 
Kiba said:
Are we the first people to genocide a civilization? That's kinda horrifying.
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No, but you are the first group to ever sack a True City, and really the first ones to ever sack a major urban center. Walls have generally been a "Welp, time to go home guys" thing for armies up to this point. You are the first group with the technological and social capacity to actually go up to a fortified city and break it open.
 
Academia Nut said:
No, but you are the first group to ever sack a True City, and really the first ones to ever sack a major urban center. Walls have generally been a "Welp, time to go home guys" thing for armies up to this point. You are the first group with the technological and social capacity to actually go up to a fortified city and break it open.
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So that's why we got a legacy. And it also explains why the the TS backed out of the war. Something like that must be terrifying to every civ...
 
Sivantic said:
*cough*cough*


Herd Mentality. Called it a while back. Could be good, but could also be bad.
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not a bad word for it. Though we're kept from being complete monsters by seeing those black deeds or even failing to be kind as polluting and harming ourselves. Hard men making hard choices, but usually autologin what hard choices are giving up.
 
Academia Nut said:
No, but you are the first group to ever sack a True City, and really the first ones to ever sack a major urban center. Walls have generally been a "Welp, time to go home guys" thing for armies up to this point. You are the first group with the technological and social capacity to actually go up to a fortified city and break it open.
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That's...actually pretty terrifying.

No wonder it gives us a legacy.
 
Academia Nut said:
Those markets are unconnected to each other. If anything, the destruction of the Xohyssiri is hurting your trade as you have fewer people to trade with.
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Well, we did eliminate our biggest rival in Pilgrimage and we might get at least some of their pottery tech through the refugees.

The real loss is losing someone who we could try to push the Greater Good back onto and distract the HK while we fix our internal problems.

Oh, speaking of which, @Academia Nut how do we compare to the Khemetri in Prestige? 40 is a fair bit higher than when we last asked the question.
 
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