Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I would say "hugging" instead of "making out with", because oh lord do I see SV go for hugs alot.
... Although I suppose it's possible that I am a tiny bit biased.
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Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
... Although I suppose it's possible that I am a tiny bit biased.
- Location
- Austria
Eh. Kiralo, Rostam...not really, basically. There probably is straight female PC...oh, sure, Shizue and, IIRC, Omicron's Hedge Wizard Quest protagonist. And that's only what I remember...well, and most of Worm quests.
Maybe? Like, there are a couple of LE ones around, but I guess majority can be said to be some sorts of CG...
- Location
- From the moon
It's ok we understand*Hugs*
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
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- He/Him
In some elements, you're right. Especially as far as cultural and agricultural development is concerned. However, we're a fairly long way away from even rudimentary metal usage. The only innovation that has put us on that path thus far is the usage of a basic set up for charcoal, though I'm unsure if we are actually making charcoal.
- Location
- Austria
Might be just geography of spread of inventions; for all we know, on another continent there is copper weaponry in use.
Or gunpowder
Like, it did happen, so...
Pretty much. We're pretty deformed techwise, if it relates to reshaping the land, we're great at it. Or incapable otherwise.
Oh and we have a shitload of wood.
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
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- He/Him
It sets us up nicely to rapidly incorporate techs in the future, but yeah, a little deformed.
- Location
- Mists of Albion
We also have our pioneering trait that lets us highjack other people techs via trade and interaction with foreigners, so it's not that big an issue, we can probably catch up with everyone if someone gets noticeably ahead fairly easily
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That's ... not how that works. Love Thy Neighbor lets us grab social values. Which is what you're referring to. Pioneering Spirit is a release valve for when shit hits the fan. I'm guessing that LTN only allows us to incorporate the one additional social value. Otherwise it would be hilariously OP.
The only trait that lets us grab additional techs is our tendency to incorporate small groups into our collective whole. And this isn't any formalized ability, but rather player tendency, and a little bit of LTN. As it stands, we aren't going to gain many more techs this way unless a nearby group destabilizes and we absorb the remnants.
Yes, we can do simple innovation when we see how it's done, such as the two wheeled war-carts, but we can't learn how to smelt and forge that way, build better bows, or build better ships. Like with our agriculture, that must be taught or learned the hard way. We simply have a greater capacity to do so as a virtue of how our society operates.
- Location
- Mists of Albion
My mistake, I had assumed this part of Pioneering spirit:
meant that interaction with foreigners and clients ensured that we could more quickly hijack and utilise their tech.
Apologies if I'm wrong, I must have incorrectly interpreted it
You should be right there. We copied the war carts from seeing them
- Location
- Mists of Albion
Had to happen eventually :lol
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
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- Trumpistan
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- He/Him
I don't think that had anything to do with PS. I think that was: Oh look, these guys who are scary and good at war are using this idea, and it works better than ours.
Nothing more than basic observation.
Text backs it up:
Our people have basically negative xenophobia, so we don't need to go through the step of tech adoption that says "this is foreign, new and strange, I don't want it", instead we go "This is cool and shiny, have you heard about how to farm better?"
Any concept that hits our pool is not hoarded or rejected. It just spreads out across the population as people try out the new cool thing...or not. Unless the opponent's culture has secrecy as a virtue we're likely to take to their ideas quickly.
Of course, it also means bad ideas spread just as fast, but that's what Harmony, Love Thy Neighbor and Shapers is for dealing with the bad ones.
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- Location
- Mists of Albion
I love being kinda like the Borg.....
...This is basically going to be what our missionaries say, isn't it?
A joke for far in the future
Q: How do the Valley People generate electricity?
A: They use a Power Plant!
- Location
- Huezil
The door is on the right...
- Location
- Austria
Actually more like Federation.
Like, Borg with their assimilation schtick are basically evil foil to Federation and its soft and voluntary assimilation of races and their diversity anyway. So...we, with communal land, with neolithic version of post-scarcity (people in our land do not starve, which is not true even for modern first world countries), with advisors to elected leader, are basically proto-technocratic Federation, in a lot of ways and mindsets.
Generous, focused on being careful and harmonious, just (especially since Social won). If you add spiritual (or, what the hell, Martial) virtue of being curious and infinitely awed by wonders of Universe, we'll get to be neolithic!UFP.
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- Location
- Mists of Albion
Hopefully this isn't endgame.
The Federation were always a bit too Socialist idealist sometimes for my taste.
Hopefully we can have some Iron in our spine and practicality in our ideology.
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...goddamned foreshadowing. The Blight had already been here since we first visited the Fishers. We just didn't know what to look for!
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
I agree with the people voting for
[Main] Annual Festival
[2nd] New Settlement
[2nd] Step-Farms
I want Step-Farms mainly because it integrates the practice into our farms, but also because I honestly don't care about our need for a meat-based diet or whatever. I don't particularly mind that we're short; a non-meat-and-dairy diet is statistically shown to let us live longer; and the issue can be put off while we fully integrate this technology so that we can stop needing to choose it. We won the war despite being short. I just want it done. I don't want to mess around with Fishing before we've finished this thing.
We shouldn't spam New Settlement every turn, we should spam it every other turn so that the settlement established 2 generations or 40 years before can be set up properly. However, I don't have a strong enough opinion to care; other than to note that this will decrease our density and thus might make the previous range of tended farms et al impossible to maintain.
Festival cus we promised and it's rad.
[Main] Annual Festival
[2nd] New Settlement
[2nd] Step-Farms
I want Step-Farms mainly because it integrates the practice into our farms, but also because I honestly don't care about our need for a meat-based diet or whatever. I don't particularly mind that we're short; a non-meat-and-dairy diet is statistically shown to let us live longer; and the issue can be put off while we fully integrate this technology so that we can stop needing to choose it. We won the war despite being short. I just want it done. I don't want to mess around with Fishing before we've finished this thing.
We shouldn't spam New Settlement every turn, we should spam it every other turn so that the settlement established 2 generations or 40 years before can be set up properly. However, I don't have a strong enough opinion to care; other than to note that this will decrease our density and thus might make the previous range of tended farms et al impossible to maintain.
Festival cus we promised and it's rad.
- Location
- Austria
So...short, long-lived, rich workaholic dour people who live in the hills.
Uh, this is a modern consideration, largely due to a highly sedentary lifestyle. When people have alternative sources of protein, a non meat and dairy diet statistically makes you live longer, but when you are dealing with nutritional deficiencies from lacking protein and calcium in your diet to the point of stunted growth, it makes you live LESS.
That said Step Farms is basically number 2 on the upgrade list after settlements, so I don't say there's a strong objection in itself.
Just that the modern concept of a healthy diet is outright counterproductive to stone age farmers
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Well, except lacking means of muscle building means we can get significantly less work done with our people. Meat is incredibly important to our diet, and fish is known to have a great deal of benefits, so I can see the logic behind wanting to take it certainly.