- Location
- Australia
We also make use of our magic gay people instead of purging them. That could be it. (Stalinist Russia purged gay people, right?)
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Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Illinois
All we need is gunpowder, better ways to supply water, and some way to make communication easier over long distances, and that will no longer necessarily be the case...
- Location
- Mists of Albion
- Location
- United States
We don't have the forests to build a mine right now (we're at 5/5 slots).
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Do we know which actions the provinces would likely take on megaproject support policy? I know they have two mains + secondary; can they use the secondary for the project?
ETA My personal preference would be megaproject support policy, instead of double Main, then use our other actions to expand manually, eg maybe a secondary New Settlement + Main Expand Econ. That way, we could continue using the megaproject policy to build the Palace + Census, without needing to pay for a switch.
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I was thinking about their ideologists.
- Location
- Mists of Albion
One step at a time Kido, one step at a time
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
We're not gleefully killing millions of our people through shitty farming and industrial practices simply to ensure a point of ideological purity?
We're not turbo-fucking our environment to improve our production capabilities?
We're not erasing people from history for daring to disagree with our ruler? Oh, and people can bring complaints directly to said ruler and have them addressed? They're not killed for expressing discontent?
I mean, seriously, comparing the Ymaryn to Stalinist Russia is massively missing the point (or just an outright strawman).
- Location
- Mists of Albion
Ideological communism is impossible, true communism with a classless system and communal money etc is a pipe dream no one has ever accomplished or will accomplish
Megaproject support means they'd take as many megaproject support actions as they can, then take an action to generate megaproject resources(in this case, Econ or Art)
But Balanced is better for that because we're burning through Econ at an alarming pace
- Location
- Australia
I wasn't saying they're the same or close to the same. I was asking what the differences are.
From your list, I can determine there are three things which separate the Ymaryn from Stalinist Russia:
Decreased emphasis on loyalty to ideology and leadership
Environmentalism
Protective Justice vs Oppressive Justice
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ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
I know, but I think we can do just as good a job of manually recovering Econ as they could do on Balanced. Maybe better?
With the Balanced policy, we'd expect them to do a main Expand Econ, maybe a main settlement, and the other action probably on study or trade. So, probably +5 Econ.
With megaproject policy, we can expect them to use a secondary Expand Econ (+2), and we could then either do a double Main Expand Econ ourselves, for a total of +10, or maybe Main Expand Econ plus a secondary New Settlement in a location of our choice, for a total of +6 with +1 next turn.
We would miss out on the other action, probably trade/study, but there are compensating advantages: by staying on megaprojects, we could quickly build the Palace + Census (allowing further expansion), Grand Docks (big boost to trade), Place to the Stars (big boost to study), etc.
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The Ymaryn also don't operate on pie in the sky theories about how economies supposed to work.
- Location
- Australia
This falls under "Decreased emphasis on loyalty to ideology"
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
Everyone always calls options "shiny" whenever it is even slightly non-conservative, it's one of the biggest cancers in quests i have seen.
- Location
- The People's Saltern
The north has always been dissatisfied, even all the way back during Magwyna and Attrikwyn's day. We had a Stallion King recently, but we haven't invested into any major developments to the North in a long time.
I think it's clear how this works. 4 Secondaries -> 2 Mains -> 1 Main + [1 Main + Law Kick] -> 3 Main result.
Maybe, but with the freaking weather I'm a lot more comfortable with Balanced covering our account books through the midturn safely than with the other way round, especially when we have the Double Main + Secondary option back that is VERY good for megaprojects.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
How would you feel about swapping over to megaproject support next turn in an attempt to finish the whole project? In that case, we could potentially go straight into the palace/census...
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Yeah, I'd favor using that for manually expanding Econ. But anyway, I don't dislike the consensus; I just would choose something that I like better.
[X][Main]War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X][Secondary]Change Policy-Megaproject Support
[X][Secondary]New Settlement - Far Eastern Redhills
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X] [Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
I'm pretty sure no-one wants to swap policies - costing a secondary action - every turn. We can do the megaprojects on Balanced policy well enough, using double Mains.
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- Location
- Hell
Depends on how much Econ we have really.