DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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no but i voted the bandwagon so its fine
Paths of Civilization
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Basically Centre of Trade is a primitive version of trade that can form when a people realize that they can serve as a trade hub of one sort or another, but because of the relative primitiveness of systems threatening the early monopolistic conceptions results in people who have their livelihoods tied up in trade absolutely losing their shit.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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Let's do that then.
And then Snails, we haven't done them in a while.
Mixed in, do an expansion on the current Saltern somewhat slowly, cus it takes the most $ but provides the greatest return.
Is this real?
Combo this with our new guild setup....
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Clearly we should just start trading iron, which we have a total monoply on and therefore won't be threatened.
I am certain there are no possible side-effects from this action.
I am certain there are no possible side-effects from this action.
... which means enforcing monopolies is perceived as defending Ymaryn citizens. Yeah, that's going to be a mess.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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fun times
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It seems I was wrong it was the Lombards, but here is an article about it.
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Question, don't we get the option of changing who we pull our trait from every time we take people in? If so, does that mean there is a good chance of us being able to switch traits with this current immigrant influx?
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It's funny really, The Dead Priest Kingdom with all its military might couldn't scratch us even when they tried, but their trader city state successor will probably cause more damage to our society via accidentally giving us the wrong trait at the wrong time.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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[] [Temple] Fythhagyna
Vote the caring and peaceful goddess! Her domain efforts are measurable and obvious while Crow's domain is random tricks.
At the end of the day honest people's honest work will fill their belly and no work is more honest than farm work.
Which do you perfer? Tricks or food? Do you want to worship an alien trick god that hides their intention? Or do you want to worship the farm god that has been and will continue to be benevolent?
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Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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I don't suppose us having multiple monopolies and near monopolies will mitigate that, because if dyes lose some value when a new blue dye gets found by <insert civ>, we still have oodles of salt and wine to trade? I guess to extend that question to world building, how specialized are our traders? Like, do certain merchant families specialize in salt, or dye? or is it more a little of everything for everyone?
[X] [Temple] Fythhagyna
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
"The best".
Like I said previously, we already had been ready for the Dam ever since we did The Garden, as per the original plan. All further architecture upgrades are both minor and expensive(heck, the Massive Walls cost half a dam by themselves, so you'd be better off just building it the slow way).
We've just been repeatedly setting our hair on fire so we couldn't.
Well...hopefully our provinces will do some Survey to find minerals and Study actions to discover new goods.
The wine will be difficult to break into for the lowlanders for a fairly long while, wrong type of soil.
The Dye we'd need to expand a lead on, while for metals we'd be outcompeted.
On the other hand...Casus bellis!
On the plus side we're as well situated as we can be to evolve and moderate that, since we span regions that barely get any traffic between each other normally. Closest thing I can see might be pressure to eat up the Hathatyn coast to control trade though.
That's probably the big one. And eat into the hills to get more metals.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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OKAY then. Pbluekan had a good idea of dropping secondaries to expand our things. Let's do that shall we? *stepford smile* fucking Xohyssiri. *crunching noises*
Depends where our stability is, and honestly? We should be able to get rid of this trait very soon. We tend to shuffle traits relatively easily.
Still waiting for AN to reply to the question though.
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Keep your pussy arse wheat god, I'll take the god of mystery, the creator god, the only being with wisdom as my patron.
We are Ymaryn, inventors and innovators!
That is the source of our strength!
What is Crow other than the wisest of gods, the one who teaches us the hard lessons, was it not Crow who taught us to adore wisdom? Was it not Crow who gifted the people with the ability to learn by looking at the world and figuring it out for themselves?
You can go glut yourself on wheat and food, I will look at the great Mystery that is Crow, and I will learn at his feat, as our ancestors did, and their ancestors before them, as the gods, celestials and terrestrials did!
Crow is our patron for a reason, and we are great because of it.
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Hmmm... being dominant in multiple positions would make it less worse, but there is a certain minimum backlash whenever you drop out of a dominant trade position.
Also, I think it is amusing that the Xohyssiri tend to go through cycles of "Are we the baddies?" and don't really think about you much other than being those rich guys in the hills who occasionally poke their heads out to trade, while to the thread they are a long term mortal enemy... who they fought like once, halfheartedly, and unleashed the predecessors of the current biggest threat upon.
Only if you take in more than the minimum does that ever become a possibility.
Yeah, this is pretty funny.
BungieONI
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Ahah so that's where the root of the problem lies. Okay that's actually not that bad, just make sure to stay in the lead, but don't gain more products than you can sustainably maintain a lead in.
Okay, that explains that, and I'm going to ask everyone in general. Do you think it's worth changing?
On the one hand, we want to get rid of this trait ASAP, on the other hand, we're at -1 stability, so we'd have to switch to Main Enforce Justice or something else, as the risk of us shattering is too great.
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It's not worth the loss in stability. We're doing a lot of religious stuff so we need every scrap we can get, just in case.
BungieONI
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I may be fighting off a continued bout of <Incoherent Screeching!> but right now no. I think right now is the time to fix our stability, and then maintain it long enough to absorb a bigger refugee wave. It's also possible looking at, to mitigate the issue by staying in the lead in salt, dye, gaining the lead in copper and silver, and wine. I'm also thinking of more questions for AN regarding this.
We're likely to lose stability either way, and we don't currently have a slot to stick an evolved version in.
So, let's hope that wine really does help with festivals, because I don't think we want to hold on to that trait too long. Especially with guilds.
Centers of Trade's advantage is the Diplomacy drip, which is nice but somewhat redundant with the smaller drip from Saltern, and the pressures it'll put on our people to develop more advanced forms of trade.
The thing is, at the moment we don't want pressures on our people; we're trying to patch ourselves back together right now, and get some long-term projects finished up. Stability just became a very high priority.
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