Umi-san
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change child to kid plz
Ex: "I can't believe Romans sacrificed kids and then slandered the Carthaginians for doing the same!"
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Paths of Civilization
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Ex: "I can't believe Romans sacrificed kids and then slandered the Carthaginians for doing the same!"
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It will change how holy sites are expanded.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
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@Academia Nut How evolved is our new trade trait? I can't imagine it's an entry level trait at that power level.
BungieONI
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Oooh. Nifty.
Can't wait to see that.
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This is at least like a tier three in my mind. It seems really powerful, on the level of Stewards of the Land.
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Abby Normal
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Enforce justice also has a limit of legitimacy, at the cost of a secondary action
Umi-san
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@Academia Nut What's happened to their "we must return freely given gifts" trait?
pblur
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Sure. But that gives a TON of centralization, which makes it not universally usable.
Umi-san
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Eh, secondaries aren't that bad and at least distant-future wise the Wall Bloc will reduce the impact.
Abby Normal
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Do remember that i am a proponent of getting to yellow centralization to start procing admin/gov upgrades more...and that if there's ever atime to be at high centralization, its when we start a golden age, so that the innovation rolls are more likely to be admin/gov upgrades...
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
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For that matter, @Academia Nut can you give us a rough percentage of how much of our land is forested these days?
pblur
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[X] [Temple] Fythhagyna
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Size
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
Tactical vote. Really don't like Crow worship as primary
Edit: yes, I'd rather have yellow centralization myself. But it's in exactly that state that we can't enforce justice.
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Size
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
Tactical vote. Really don't like Crow worship as primary
Edit: yes, I'd rather have yellow centralization myself. But it's in exactly that state that we can't enforce justice.
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[X] [Temple] Fythhagyna
[X] [Crow] Benevolent
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
Benevolent because it might give us our own version of Greater Good
[X] [Crow] Benevolent
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
Benevolent because it might give us our own version of Greater Good
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It's not entry level, that's for sure, but well... it's downside is actually pretty nasty once you experience it.
That behaviour was an intersection of tradition and Greater Good. Remember that they consider their lives to be gifts from the gods.
Depends on province, and how you conceptualize 'forested'. Sacred Forest, Redshore, and Southshore and basically fully forested, while Valleyhome and Northshore are something like 25% "forested" but that's pretty much all orchards and bocage and there isn't much more room to plant forests without planting over agricultural land. The rest of the place is currently bad terrain for significant forest, although Redhills might be able to be more extensively forested.
Not unlucky. We've been setting it on fire, which basically means it won't have gunpowder ingredients.
Please actually read the argument:
-Mountain
-- Will not help Dam
-Aqueduct
--Will help Dam
---Oh hey, we already built that
-Massive wall
--Will help Dam
---Oh hey, we already built that
Aka, I'm saying we've already done all the prep we could do for the Dam, the Ziggurut will not meaningfully help advance it.
All that's left is opportunity, considering the Temple-Library-Palace trifecta will be taking a fair bit of time, and is urgently needed to tame the growing difficulties of administrating our civilization.
And bloody Nomads.
And bloody Lowlands.
And Dread RNG.
Sure, if rainfall patterns changed and you could get the entire steppes to stop raiding any of the nomads who decide to settle. The Marches are vastly better defended than any Steppe Nomads who choose to settle down and they nearly got wiped out before without the backing of a stable nation.
Ah, too dry. You need to lay down a lot of forest before rainfall patterns start to shift, or use Aqueducts to ferry enough water to a region to kickstart a forest. Hmm...and that'd be expensive because the Aqueducts won't be put to proper use irrigating fields and paying back the economic costs, while also being one of the more expensive places we could build those.
Umi-san
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Are we going to have to attack people in order to retain our trade superiority...
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BungieONI
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*sees the insightful from AN*
Greeeeeeaaaaat.
We'll get causus beli and/or stability drops from people being dicks in our markets. Yay...
Oh, not just being dicks. It looks like just showing up as a source of competition is enough to trigger it.
Umi-san
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They don't even have to be dicks, they just have to compete with us.
So if the Hathatyn get better at dye? War.
If the Metal Workers start producing salt? War.
If the HK somehow learn iron-making from our swords? Not war, cus it's not a trade good, atm. But we'll still be pissed.
Abby Normal
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Especially for us with our comparatively expensive stab options, i assume? Whereas the Xoh can boost stab back way up...and for that matter can probably sic their overlords on anyone getting in the way of their trade...
Umi-san
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Let's get really good at pottery and see.
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
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Crap, AN insightfulled this.
Honestly, with trade goods the best thing we can do is put a secondary into one of our leading goods every turn or so. This should help maintain our lead. Currently, we lead in salt, dyes, and soon to be wine. Frankly, if that's the case, wine is going to need a main action to get production high enough to ensure we are leading by a significant margin. If we want to take over any markets, I think it requires a main at the very least, and possibly a main +1 secondary.
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The snails stand for the Visgoths that were powerful(slimy) and at the same time seen as hounorless as they lost Italy and some other things in the 13th century. It later became a meme in transcriber circles so they often used it. There were also some tips on how to draw snails in a famous book about how to draw images in your manuscript.