Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Well of course they don't if no one votes for them. ;_;
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Mists of Albion
I don't think we should let your shipping chart decide who gets the most attention as a god.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
I'll allow it
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
IIRC, the Kaballah is where Tolkien derived a lot of his base material when he designed the Silmarillion cosmology.
- Location
- Canada
[X] [Temple] Crow
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[x] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[x] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
SMT also heavily borrowed.
It is fascinating reading, in small dosages.
I did read Silmarillion as a child, because I was a fan of Tolkien and felt like I had to.
It was among the most tedious readings for me.
Kaballah is sometimes headache inducing.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
Wait there's a shipping chart? why was i not informed?
- Location
- Staring into the void
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
Eww canonshipping. where's mah crack ships.
- Location
- Hell
Not really. Despite the drought, we are still doing well with Economy 4.
You...
You keep looking for comparisons between Tolkien and us...
False actually.
Our current example of major religious behavior is the Sacred Warding ritual. This ritual exists in three parts:
-The passing of the curse. In this ritual, the shamans will take select young cows from the Sacred Herds and pass the curse through them using needles from other cursed cows.
-The protection of the curse. The shamans will take this curse and transfer it to People using needles. After suffering the cow-curse, and recovering, the People will be protected by the Star Pox.
-The price of the curse. In order to make room for the Sacred Herds, the young cows must be slaughtered after the curse fades from them. As a result, we must identify the finest cows of the Sacred Herds so that we may ensure that we give thanks to the cow spirits for their gift of the warding.
The entire ritual is expected to be deterministic.
Our shamans are willing to adapt or abandon rituals that don't work. Our people perform prayers because they hope for effectiveness, but as they lack the tools to understand whether it's because the prayers are lacking or whether the prayers don't do anything, they take it on faith.
Rituals are the way we intervene in the natural world. Some rituals are simple enough that anyone taught properly can perform them, such as cooking ore to make metal, or letting grapes rot to produce wine.
Other rituals interacting with the soul are the domain of the shamans and priests to intercede with the spirits, we know for instance, certain chants can sooth the possessed and spiritually disturbed, we know that tattoos and needles can be used to effect changes upon a person.
Well...AN also mentioned that we could have had a really exciting time if we rushed the temple, because instead of gradual religious debate while the priests hammer out what we believe in, we'd cram a hundred years of religious debate and thought of how to build the temple into thirty.
Expect some of the cut and thrust of debate to become literal.
I think this means we should be careful about always rushing projects that aren't just raw works of engineering.
-The Library is probably fine, but in the rush to write EVERYTHING down, some incidents may occur with the writing process. Though I don't see any incidents that would hurt it's functionality, just generate some events while we deal with quadrupling the number of scribes over the course of a generation.
-The Dam/Mountain should be fine, with Dam being slightly riskier if we take less than 3 turns to do it, since we might not be giving the soil and bedrock enough time to adjust to the water burden. Unlikely to matter, we have a lot of experience at this.
-The Place to the Stars should be fine. Construction might not account properly for long term patterns unless we have a 5+ Study Stars streak maintained though.
-Grand Palace should not be rushed for the same reasons as Great Temple, there will be administrative changes involved in the process, and we'd need the time to adjust for bad decisions along the way.
-The Games really should not be rushed. It's a social engineering project.
HOWEVER, rushing the final stretch isn't so bad.
Agreed, you really can't add more festivals until you improve timekeeping, and timekeeping is advanced through astrology.
Actually:
-Medieval Christian alchemists searched through the Bible for ways to interpret the universe through the Word of God. God was considered to be unknown(in fact, Alien and Unknowable describes the early periods pretty well), but that you could find patterns in nature through the hand of God the Creator. They actually managed to discover a lot about Chemistry by trying to backsolve random bible ciphers into chemical formulas. Other Christian scholars did the same with divine numerology and geometry.
-Early Islamic Scholars felt that advancing their understanding of God without a Prophet bringing His Word directly must be done through the study of the world and reality itself through geometry, patterns and naturalism, as God's hand and breath shapes all things.
-Jewish study of the Kabbalah did a lot with mathematics as well.
-Taoist Scholars engaged in astrology, chemistry, pharmacology and numerology in their quest to approach the alien but knowable Absolute, which was the most important and unapproachable, potentially non-sentient force in the universe, but responded to the proper rituals and forms.
--Though in a funny evolution of things, it changed to literal forms. Taoist talismans are caligraphic command/requests to the spirits structured like imperial edicts, complete with a seal of the divine court stamped to mark that it is properly filed.
---Yes, you change the weather by submitting your properly filled requisition forms for particular kinds of weather, then burning it with the proper amounts of bribes and offerings in the hope of intervention. Your form might still be rejected if it's against divine policy or if you screwed up and pissed off one of the mid level functionaries who 'misfile' it. Or if someone else had a better bribe or form.
----Forged forms exist.
----Every year the inspector of the gods is bribed with sweet sticky cake so he can't talk about your misdeeds by dint of being too busy chewing through the stuff.
----Sun Wukong obtained long lives for his entire tribe of monkeys by destroying the census of destined death, so the system can't figure out when they are supposed to die and never come around to collect until it's too late.
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Aabcehmu
Confusion as a Natural State of Being
- Location
- Chicago, IL
- Pronouns
- Any/All
[X] [Temple] Fythhagyna
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
I originally wanted to vote for Math, but it looks like they're not going to work out. I prefer Crow stay a stationless god, tied to no places but present everywhere.
Also, it has taken me far to long to realize that, we might have a rainbow bridge leading to the afterlife in our mythos, thanks to Rainbow Trail? Which is pretty cool. Rainbow bridges are sweet.
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
I originally wanted to vote for Math, but it looks like they're not going to work out. I prefer Crow stay a stationless god, tied to no places but present everywhere.
Also, it has taken me far to long to realize that, we might have a rainbow bridge leading to the afterlife in our mythos, thanks to Rainbow Trail? Which is pretty cool. Rainbow bridges are sweet.
Let's just label Crow chaos undivided.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
And by studying him, develop quantum mechanics ~2000BC.Let's just label Crow chaos undivided.
- Location
- Source of confusion itself.
First Iwas against Mathulmyn, but then AN said one of the depictions is a woman with a knowing smile. Guys. We can have an early Smug Wendy!
Imagine the cute smug we could have!
Sure! It's not smug at first, but there will be a cultural drift.
[X] [Temple] Mathulmyn
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
Imagine the cute smug we could have!
Sure! It's not smug at first, but there will be a cultural drift.
[X] [Temple] Mathulmyn
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
- Location
- nz
[X] [Temple] Fythhagyna
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
[X] [Crow] Alien but knowable
[X] [Boats] Not the boats, but where they are made
[X] [Drought] Weed out troublemakers (Main Restore Order)
[X] [CA] Bring in whoever comes (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Chaos theory would have to come from somewhere.Let's just label Crow chaos undivided.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
"I'm telling you Crow manipulates massive complex systems through the tiniest of changes!"Chaos theory would have to come from somewhere.
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
They would call it the Crow effect.
Only in the late ripening phase. Dry heat (or just warm wind) reduces the water content in the berries and concentrates the sugar content. The exceptional taste is subjective. If you want sweet and/or alcohol rich wines, that's the way to go. If you want light, fruity wines it's more of a negative.
During the normal vegetation period, rain isn't that critical as long as there is some. As long as they had at least one year to grow they develop an impressive root network, which gets even better over the next ~2-3 years. If the vines got planted in the black soil, it's practically a given that they had the time and energy to develop well.
So in conclusion, for it to delay wine production it has t be a fairly impressive drought as vines can take a hell of a beating in that regard.
@Academia Nut
Is grain trade getting to the stage where it's practical to trade dye and salt for food and bring it home?
How extensive are our fisheries? Are they improving with all the boats we build for them?