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- Source of confusion itself.
Or improve it, by making it into symphony of war.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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maximillian
Civilised Sheep
- Location
- Ranch
I understand and generally agree with what you are saying.
In this particular case though. It's highly unlikely that the warriors will cause significant internal problems for us if any at all. The yimir culture makes it unlikely for them to do what other cultures do when they run out of easy enemies (turn on each other or get political ).
And thanks for catching the typos.
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- Huezil
Imagine someone throwing a stone at you? Fine you can shrug it off and keep running.
Now imagine 100 stones being throw at the same time...
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
it specifically limits the warrior caste and sets rules for our interaction with other polities.
- Location
- Europe
Well, war can be both beneficial and detrimental. Like Charles Tilly said: "War made the state and the state made war." There's a reason it was the European states that eventually managed to leverage enough of the resources within their individual states to dominate most of the world. It was the fundamental and prolonged competition for survival in Europe that made the modern state come into existance by necessity. The states that failed to continuously improve their ability to leverage the resources within the state were simply destroyed by those who did. On the other hand, there's been many examples of incredibly powerful states that have stagnated because of a lack of real competition with external enemies. The complacency that a lack of competition against a state engenders can be a killer just as much as any potential war.
This doesn't diminish the human cost of war, which is indeed horrible and something we should try to prevent, but it does mean that historically, war has been a huge driving factor in the development of the state and it's ability to utilise the resources within it's boundaries effectively, whether they be people or raw materials like iron and coal. I believe that it is possible to move towards a modern state without wars but only because our state has the advantage of us, actors with desires that are ultimately rooted in external factors that would be impossible for any rational actors to possess within the universe.
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"our arrows will darken he sun" basically. An arrow storm looks much harder to survive than aimed fire because of its sheer density even though that is not always the case
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
volley fire and morale-breaking tactics. its scarier to see a lot of guys go down at once then to see em get picked off one by one
- Location
- Germany
They won't cause this is not a main turn and we will change it the coming turn either to prgress balance or restoration to meet the challenge
@Academia Nut
Does it have to be an iron mine or would any type of metal do?
Does it have to be an iron mine or would any type of metal do?
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Imagine a wave of arrows darkening the sky and suddenly half of your friends are on the ground, screaming and dying.
Any sane person would turn and run away from death.
To be fair, if they have simple shields then the damage are less.
Eh... point, but there are always nomads to fight and don't forget symphony was the value we enshrined in law.
- Location
- Huezil
Them we do the same with spear-trowers using atlatl and oooh boy, nice shield you have there...
That just means that they do things externally based on the problem they think needs to be solved. I'd rather not see what problem they think needs to be solved by them.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
- Location
- Ranch
They were many things but lacking in discipline was not one of them.
No undisciplined mob charges through swamp like grounds while arrows rain on you, and those lacking in discipline definitely don't continue the charge as casualties pile up and men drown in the mud as they are trampled by thier comrades.
Pride and hubris (and geography) was thier death. Not want of discipline and courage.
- Location
- Australia
This has only been made possible because of constant, never-ending effort to ensure that this is the case. Doing things which in another culture would make people turn on each other/get political will undo that progress.
Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
[X] [March] Yes, send out the warriors (-5 Martial, -2 Econ)
[X] [Caravan] Attempt peaceful contact
[X] [Challenge] Survey Lands (-1 Econ, improved odds of success)
[X] [Caravan] Attempt peaceful contact
[X] [Challenge] Survey Lands (-1 Econ, improved odds of success)
- Location
- Australia
Yet more reason for a Balanced policy.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
It's partially because it demolishes formations. Infantry generally has a hard time not-breaking individually, so they tend to be in some form of formation (even if it's just a crowd.) Holding formation is done by comparing your position to the people next to you. Under aimed fire, you can respond gradually as your numbers are depleted. Under volley fire, both the people next to you fall the the ground screaming; you lose almost all of the formation's force at keeping you in place and will often break and run before whatever massacred them gets you. And all it takes is a handful of people running to break cohesion entirely, because everyone has to figure out if it's time to run now.
True, which is why I said it was the counter to chariot archers. It is very, very hard to fire while attempting to dodge hoards of things faster than you are. I'm not aware of any other Civ that has basically infinity wood for arrows. The main counter to arrow walls is indeed shields and thick armor... but at present that means it counters all those stupid nomad chariots. Infantry is much better at soaking arrows as they don''t lose their major advantage (speed) as the counter.
Arms races!
Balanced is probably better since we've been told that provinces won't take stability-costing actions, even on Progress.
Balanced means we we will trust the provinces to provide us resources and deal with outside threats while we deal with completing the challenge, and they know the exact requirements so they'll be working to help us and will take Study Health when they can. Progress is thus just worse than Balanced right now, since it can only help with Study Health which can be taken on Balanced anyway.
I think the 1/4 locked means that 1/4 of our forest is going into providing charcoal, so we can make 3 more Mines before we're dooming our forest. (We don't want to get that close to the limit though)
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No. The discipline is not being hot headed by charging into the enemy, and by sticking to the battle plan.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
Charging... WAS the battle plan.
