Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
- Location
- United States
Hmmm, our leaders and stuff are gonna have a totally different feel without Humility
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- United States of America, Michigan
Some new mega projects we can do.
- Location
- Australia
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
costs a bunch of diplo and I think a main?; would rather change to defense policy & boost defense now, then establish a Trading Post to give us more Diplo to make us recover from integrating the march faster, so that we can establish the next march more or less immediately.
- Location
- Canada
We spent close to a century in constant mass warfare did we at least gain better tactics and strategy to put us on equal footing with the rest of the nearby civs? @Academia Nut also to clairfy the nomads snuck in through the place where we were told putting a new March would be helpful right?
- Location
- United States of America, Michigan
@Academia Nut what does challenging a belief mean and how will it work in we choose to do it?
redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
- Location
- Canada
The Mountain - What greater display of strength can the People make than to pile stone upon stone so as to create an artificial mountain that all can see? [King] (8-14? Action commitment, -1 Econ per action)
@Pandemonious Ivy does this sound like a pyramid to you?
@Pandemonious Ivy does this sound like a pyramid to you?
[X] Challenge belief (Begins event chain)
[X][Main] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Secondary] Change Policy Defense
[X][Secondary] Expand Economy
We need to change out policy off of Offense, chose defense as the last turn showed us that we need more defenses. Main Grand Sacrifice will bring us to 0 Stab and out of the danger zone. Expand economy for more econ and the potential additional effects.
[X][Main] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Secondary] Change Policy Defense
[X][Secondary] Expand Economy
We need to change out policy off of Offense, chose defense as the last turn showed us that we need more defenses. Main Grand Sacrifice will bring us to 0 Stab and out of the danger zone. Expand economy for more econ and the potential additional effects.
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- Pronouns
- He/Him
No, they technically went in through Blackriver but avoided looting until after they had forded the river at a good place and then began cutting a swath through Northshore.
It means someone openly challenges the belief and why it is held, rather than it fading away or transforming into something else. It is very disruptive but if successful can bring great things.
Cry tears of joy.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
I'll support this except that I'm changing econ to forest. We need the passive defenses that they provide.
[X][Main] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Secondary] Change Policy Defense
[X][Secondary] Expand Forest - Stallion Tribes
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redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
- Location
- Canada
Science and skepticism.
- Location
- Austria
Will it start after the end of this turn? Or, if while in this turn, before or after Great Sacrifice effects?
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
but they left through where the march would be helpful?
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] Challenge belief (Begins event chain)
[X][Main] Expand Festival
[X][Secondary] Change Policy Defense
[X][Secondary] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Main] Expand Festival
[X][Secondary] Change Policy Defense
[X][Secondary] Grand Sacrifice
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] [Main] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Secondary] Change Policy Defense
[X][Secondary] Expand Economy
[X] Challenge belief (Begins event chain)
I like the chance to challenge the belief because I see it as a way to challenge the idea of Debilitating Beliefs. Second Checks on things and verification and the like would be wonderful.
We need Stability fixed up pronto. Something is going to go crunch in the Lowlands what with the TS rebelling.
Expand Econ to offset some of the costs, and for additional effects.
Defensive policy so we can close off the hole the Nomads got through and prepare to send off the NE March next turn.
Challenge belief is a risk, but it is not a crisis risk. May delay the March which is the only truly terrible bad spot.
Sadly I can't argue or debate these choices for the next hour or two so see you folks in a bit.
E: I could be convinced to switch Expand Econ to Expand Forest Stallions.
[X][Secondary] Change Policy Defense
[X][Secondary] Expand Economy
[X] Challenge belief (Begins event chain)
I like the chance to challenge the belief because I see it as a way to challenge the idea of Debilitating Beliefs. Second Checks on things and verification and the like would be wonderful.
We need Stability fixed up pronto. Something is going to go crunch in the Lowlands what with the TS rebelling.
Expand Econ to offset some of the costs, and for additional effects.
Defensive policy so we can close off the hole the Nomads got through and prepare to send off the NE March next turn.
Challenge belief is a risk, but it is not a crisis risk. May delay the March which is the only truly terrible bad spot.
Sadly I can't argue or debate these choices for the next hour or two so see you folks in a bit.
E: I could be convinced to switch Expand Econ to Expand Forest Stallions.
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- Location
- Philippines
[X] Challenge belief (Begins event chain)
[X][Main] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Secondary] More Chariots
[X][Secondary] Expand Economy
I really want us to keep waging war to the nomads to the point that even the Father son pair's descendants will feel it
[X][Main] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Secondary] More Chariots
[X][Secondary] Expand Economy
I really want us to keep waging war to the nomads to the point that even the Father son pair's descendants will feel it
redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
- Location
- Canada
Thread too fast for me,laterbnerdslbnerds
Edit: I hit b instead of space, then i went back and hit backspace... This is how my phone reacts. This is what i deal with everytime my fat fingers or autocorrect messes something up. And then in fixing this, i can cause a chain reaction...
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- Pronouns
- He/Him
It would begin after any stability boosting actions, yes.
Yes, that is correct.
- Location
- United States of America, Michigan
[X] Challenge belief (Begins event chain)
[X][Main] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Secondary] Change Policy Defense
[X][Secondary] Expand Economy
Seems good to start with but if we are challenging the belief we may want to consider studying metal or getting higher mysticism than the 4 we currently have to better synergize.
[X][Main] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Secondary] Change Policy Defense
[X][Secondary] Expand Economy
Seems good to start with but if we are challenging the belief we may want to consider studying metal or getting higher mysticism than the 4 we currently have to better synergize.
- Location
- Australia
[X][Main] Grand Sacrifice
[X][Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
There are many things that need doing in our society. We need defences, economy expansion, surveys (necessary for more iron), and much more. We need flexibility to do all those things if we want to get optimal results.
[X][Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
There are many things that need doing in our society. We need defences, economy expansion, surveys (necessary for more iron), and much more. We need flexibility to do all those things if we want to get optimal results.
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- Location
- Austria
Also, @Academia Nut ,
1. Why did we lose Nobility in Humility and how can we possibly regain it?
2. Seeing as we lack current targets for War Missions, will Offensive result in just provinces expanding their armies?
1. Why did we lose Nobility in Humility and how can we possibly regain it?
2. Seeing as we lack current targets for War Missions, will Offensive result in just provinces expanding their armies?
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Econ changed as expected, -1 -> 7 via tools
Martial didn't change, so the war mission cost us the 2 points we just gained
Stability and legitimacy changed as expected
Art and mysticism got updated as per the Canal bonus from the mine
Hmm...Not sure how to feel about this change...sounds like it might help slightly de-hereditify the non-elite military maybe?
Very nice bonuses! I wonder what "iron blooded" would have been if we picked weapons... probably a boost to martial generating actions i guess?
New tech!
New weapons!
Main walls is 2 econ cost now, but is also probably at least as big as the skull wall is...
Boosted as expected, 16->18 econ slots, can't tell if thats from the people who died, or from the iron tools opening up slots...
Expand forests has a new use, but that wont matter until/unless we have more things using charcoal
These two actions give an extra point for a main, but not for a secondary, for some reason
Saltern expansion opened up, but won't improve the per-turn diplo yet
Aqueducts got way cheaper; we could do all of these in 5 turns if we used all our actions on them and had our provinces expanding econ the whole time...damn thats awesome
New megaprojects! Also, Dam takes an extra turn but is likely way safer. Place to the stars is 1-2 actions more, but likely way more awesome
Here are the diffcheckers i used btw:
Diff Checker (Civ sheet differences)
Diff Checker (Action differences)