VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
We would loss stability if we chose defense instead of offensive. So i'm 50/50 on this issue.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
We would loss stability if we chose defense instead of offensive. So i'm 50/50 on this issue.
- Location
- Canada
[X] [Main] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] Change Policy - Offense
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] Change Policy - Offense
- Location
- United States
It's better to lose stability than lose the war. I do NOT want to fight on the hero unit's terms. I do not want to charge in and give him opportunities to destroy us. If he wants us he has to come and invade.
- Location
- Canada
It's too bad we won't have enough time to properly establish that new March in time before the heroic son attacks us. However it seems from the flavour text that the father is the better administrator in that he wants to wait and build up strength by absorbing other tribes while the son disagrees.
- Location
- United States
Defensive policy doesn't launch defensive wars, they only build walls and watch towers. If we build the mine, we'll only have 1 econ so they'll just expand econ until 3-4.
If we have offensive, they'll launch lots of war missions (which will inflict a lot of diplo, econ, and martial damage to them).
[X] [Main] Build Iron Mine
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] Change Policy - Offense
The [Main] Iron mine will provide the metal tools by the mid turn. This means our war missions will be ridiculously effective.
Changing to Offense and spending all our econ means that we'll launch 5 actions' worth of War Missions. I really don't want to do that against two heroic generals...
Switching to Defense means that they'll just take 4x Expand Economy instead of getting more settlements (boosting our size multiplier)
Just wondering, why do this? Offense policy + Iron Mine means we get 5 war missions sent anyway, why add a sixth? Swapping in an Expand Economy or something so that we're not at 1 would be a lot safer.
edit: or study stars so that our people know we're checking on the gods while we start stealing all their weapons.
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] [Main] Build Iron Mine
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X] Change Policy - Defense
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X] Change Policy - Defense
- Location
- Canada
[X] [Main] Build Iron Mine
[X] [Secondary] Expand Boats
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] Change Policy - Offense
Eh the nomads are currently divided and still regrouping so we'll start off having our provinces send off minor raids with the offensive policy while we open up the Iron Mine.
[X] [Secondary] Expand Boats
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] Change Policy - Offense
Eh the nomads are currently divided and still regrouping so we'll start off having our provinces send off minor raids with the offensive policy while we open up the Iron Mine.
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- Location
- United States
Having a secondary war mission means we get 2 main war missions, instead of less effective (separate) secondaries.
We'll be getting settlements in these two places if we don't change policy.
I do not like opening up northern Blackriver when it's going to be full of rampaging nomads.
- Location
- Staring into the void
Early tally
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
[X] [Main] Build Iron Mine
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] Change Policy - Offense
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] Change Policy - Offense
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Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
I support a defensive policy over an offensive one, mostly.
We're literally going against two heroes who are leading the same army.
But on the other hand, if we have iron weapons by the midturn we might mess 'em up so... *shrug*
We're literally going against two heroes who are leading the same army.
But on the other hand, if we have iron weapons by the midturn we might mess 'em up so... *shrug*
probably synergy
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
- Location
- Present
Why is everyone so exited about this?
We got more useless quackery. If anything, this is bad because it draws away resources from actually usefull attempts at curing stuff.
If it was naturopathy or herbology, stuff that actually occassionally works, I could understand. But accupuncture is 100% useless.
Hence, I would not use Study Health, we do not want to reinforce those delibating beliefs.
- Location
- United States
Just for confirmation:
@Academia Nut Will a [Main] Iron Mine give the benefits to our offensive policy war missions?
@Academia Nut Will a [Main] Iron Mine give the benefits to our offensive policy war missions?
We get 3 main war missions instead of 2 main and 1 secondary.
However, the March is providing war missions too, which completely wrecks that assumption since we don't know how much they'll be sending.
@Academia Nut
Is Northern Blackriver vulnerable to the nomads, or is it protected by the March?
[X] [Main] Build Iron Mine
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X] Change Policy - Defense
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X] Change Policy - Defense
- Location
- his hidden lair
[X] [Main] Build Iron Mine
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X] Change Policy - Offense
Stay the course guys, this way gives us Iron mid-turn, which means we'll actually be bringing it to bear on the Nomads in some way this very turn. Study Health should be obvious. Offensive is pretty much the only reasonable choice.
War Mission just to further support the ST here with 2 Main War Missions. There is fundamentally nothing we can do more important for this war than getting iron weaponry onto the field as soon as possible and in as many numbers as possible. We have to take a proactive posture here otherwise the ST will be hit harder than ever before.
[X] [Secondary] Study Health
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X] Change Policy - Offense
Stay the course guys, this way gives us Iron mid-turn, which means we'll actually be bringing it to bear on the Nomads in some way this very turn. Study Health should be obvious. Offensive is pretty much the only reasonable choice.
War Mission just to further support the ST here with 2 Main War Missions. There is fundamentally nothing we can do more important for this war than getting iron weaponry onto the field as soon as possible and in as many numbers as possible. We have to take a proactive posture here otherwise the ST will be hit harder than ever before.
Why? The ST have 5 fucking martial. They are goners if we don't actually try and help them. That's a risk of losing our vassal outright in addition to 1 stab. And for what? Cowardice? We can't simply sit inside the walls until they leave. Especially considering the goal is likely to still raze our northern ports. We can't afford to not contest them every single inch of the way, no matter how bloody that gets.
The March is going to be way out of it's depth here and has far less martial than we do right now. We shouldn't make assumptions on them being able to hold their land, let alone new/recent settlements.
- Location
- United States
The law mega project double a secondary action, and us having a secondary war mission means one of our provinces can double our war mission for a main. What is the 3rd main war mission?
Also, i'm not sure what the Marches has to do with this because they aren't a province (and thus not affected by our policies).