- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Ends with: 0 or lower stability, ???
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
Crazy7s1
Excellent
Who cares? We got a golden age!
- Location
- Mists of Albion
[x] [Honour] Quality training
Part of what made the Roman legions, Spartan armies and British New Model armies so powerful was discipline.
[x] [Mystic] Wait
We are in the cusp of something....
I want the shiny!!!
[x] [Goal] Humiliate (Hard, +1 Prestige)
Keeps our allies sated and shows them whose boss without going too far
[x] [Stallions] Focus efforts on the Thunder Speakers
We are winning at the moment, don't try to split your forces and lose the initiative, we can beat them quick if we do this
Part of what made the Roman legions, Spartan armies and British New Model armies so powerful was discipline.
[x] [Mystic] Wait
We are in the cusp of something....
I want the shiny!!!
[x] [Goal] Humiliate (Hard, +1 Prestige)
Keeps our allies sated and shows them whose boss without going too far
[x] [Stallions] Focus efforts on the Thunder Speakers
We are winning at the moment, don't try to split your forces and lose the initiative, we can beat them quick if we do this
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- Pronouns
- They/Them
Creating a professional army raises problems of its own, though. Honestly, I'm leaning a little towards overwhelming numbers because human wave style warfare fits our insane population level pretty well, so long as we go to war sparingly.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
So that's what Prestige does! Cooooool.
[X] [Honour] Quality training
[X] [Mystic] Evolve spiritual value (-7 Mysticism)
[X] [Goal] Humiliate (Hard, +1 Prestige)
[X] [Stallions] Split efforts between Thunder Speakers and nomads
Honour: We've got bonus loyalty from Carrion Eaters, so we should get more training or numbers. And just personally, training is better.
Mystic: I'm unsure. I'm leaning slightly towards Evolve, but IDK. All 3 of our Spiritual values could do very nicely with some evolution, and it's not that expensive.
Goal: Keep allies happy, give us prestige, don't waste our admin hero doing only fighting his entire life.
Stallions: Need to fight them both off.
[X] [Mystic] Evolve spiritual value (-7 Mysticism)
[X] [Goal] Humiliate (Hard, +1 Prestige)
[X] [Stallions] Split efforts between Thunder Speakers and nomads
Honour: We've got bonus loyalty from Carrion Eaters, so we should get more training or numbers. And just personally, training is better.
Mystic: I'm unsure. I'm leaning slightly towards Evolve, but IDK. All 3 of our Spiritual values could do very nicely with some evolution, and it's not that expensive.
Goal: Keep allies happy, give us prestige, don't waste our admin hero doing only fighting his entire life.
Stallions: Need to fight them both off.
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Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
Need to keep Art + Mysticism high to retain Golden Age, or at least I believe that this is what the ??? indicates.
Mmk this is a bit uncomfortable...
Radical!! Worried about the ???, however.
I'm leaning toward Quality Training and Loyalty. Loyalty might stifle people's innovation if their leader is inferior; quality training risks us being fragile.
I frankly want to either Wait, Temper Superstition, or Evolve Spiritual Value.
Wait is the most likely to keep the Golden Age going, though this fear is based on the ??? which isn't strong evidence at all.
Temper Superstition is a low cost way to work toward solving our metal issue.
Evolve Spiritual Value is evolving a trait, which is literally always useful.
Leaning toward Humiliate + Focus efforts on the nomads. Degrade sphere of influence will reduce the increased power of the Thunder faction, but will probably require us to ignore the nomad raids.
Blackmouth has a double-mained wall.... holy molly. That's probably to get us the integrated watchtower... nope, not listed as a Military tech and I think we already had Early City Walls?
Edit: Temporary vote:
[X] [Honour] Quality training
[X] [Mystic] Evolve spiritual value (-7 Mysticism)
[X] [Goal] Degrade sphere of influence (Hardest, +1 Prestige, pleases allies)
[X] [Stallions] Split efforts between Thunder Speakers and nomads
-Quality training suits our meritocratic standard, though if even a single person argues for loyalty and how it suits our Symphony trait I might switch.
-We already know how to get back the Golden Age, so I'm pretty fine w/ evolving a spiritual value just to see if the ??? is that when the stats go below max we lose it. Evolving spiritual values seems like a more unpredictable task than overcoming the superstition, which should mostly just take repeated Study Metal + Stab-gain combos.
-I don't really agree w/ this goal, it's too aggressive, but they attacked us which irritates me.
-Deals w/ both north and TS.
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- Location
- Mists of Albion
Yeah but the Thunder Horse in the east could jump in at any time, they do that and we're fucked, end them quickly and then we stand a better chance
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Oh Stallions, you crazy bastards.
- Location
- Somewhere
- Location
- Mists of Albion
They're pretty badarse
- Location
- his hidden lair
I wonder, with the familial ties between us and the HK, alongside us becoming increasingly more prestigious if we could firmly root the HK in our sphere of influence if we pushed this war hard and pleased them.
Because if we'd pull that off, we'd be a neighboring premier regional power that's going to offer a ton of benefit if they accept a light yoke.
Because if we'd pull that off, we'd be a neighboring premier regional power that's going to offer a ton of benefit if they accept a light yoke.
- Location
- Panama City
[X] [Honour] Quality training
[X] [Mystic] Evolve spiritual value (-7 Mysticism)
[X] [Goal] Humiliate (Hard, +1 Prestige)
[X] [Stallions] Split efforts between Thunder Speakers and nomads
Reasoning for evolve:We can evolve Observance, which will temper that nasty downside. Sure, it doesn't do jack for Weapon, but preventing/mitigating future nasty belief pickups is worth it's weight in gold.
[X] [Mystic] Evolve spiritual value (-7 Mysticism)
[X] [Goal] Humiliate (Hard, +1 Prestige)
[X] [Stallions] Split efforts between Thunder Speakers and nomads
Reasoning for evolve:We can evolve Observance, which will temper that nasty downside. Sure, it doesn't do jack for Weapon, but preventing/mitigating future nasty belief pickups is worth it's weight in gold.
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- Pronouns
- They/Them
Vassalize the Highland Kingdom? It's tempting...and if we do go for all in on the Thunder Speakers it sounds like Yehlmyn is gearing up to spend stability on a mained war mission. I think we could potentially crush them entirely.
- Location
- U.S.
so you want potentially disloyal well trained soldiers? ie well trained traitors?
- Location
- Austria
Given how Rome was fucked over by disloyal generals, I am tempted to go for loyalty...on the other hand, Symphony + Humility take care of that do a decent degree. Tentatively choosing loyalty for now.
The only thing I really know is that I want anti-metal superstition overturned as soon as possible. -1 Stability hit does not end the golden age, apparently (although negative stability does take that all you 'we don't need to high stability' folks), and metal is the key to getting gud. We already have other keys in hilariously good writing-related things for the era and food surplus.
And with indexing and library (for which we will go as soon as we can because, well, SV and library) we actually can pull off managing them in administrative ways. Of course, culturally we are radically different, so I am not really so sure about this.
[X] [Honour] Loyalty
[X] [Mystic] Overturn superstition (-10 Mysticism, -1 Stability)
[X] [Goal] Degrade sphere of influence (Hardest, +1 Prestige, pleases allies)
[X] [Stallions] Split efforts between Thunder Speakers and nomads
@Academia Nut ,two questions:
1. Will tempering/removing superstition give us a chance to evolve the Observance?
2. Will choosing to evolve a spiritual value evolve a random one?
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- Location
- Panama City
............................So your line of logic is if we don't go with a loyalty trait, then our soldiers are automatically disloyal. Can you see the issue with your line of reasoning?