Paths of Civilization
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We used magic to create a super complicated spell that made everyone do what we say.
I mean, what else would you call wiggles off of a rock telling a person to do? Clearly magic.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Query: Where was this confirmation?
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you're a vote behind mate
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Oh, right. You're lucky you can't crit fail surveys is what happened.
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- Hell
Yet no fluff was given about it. The March's job is to deal with that sort of thing. They would appreciate help yes, but it isn't required.
No we don't. That is their job to deal with. They are a military group made to keep them off.
False. He did not say it gave us stability.
Wait, where? This thread is moving too fast!
And we can do both.
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Where did AN say that a war mission in support of our March would boost stability?
Sorry, missed that. We'll have problems with Econ tho, without Expand econ. Or it'll steal a Holy Site from province, which may just screw up our Literacy last gamble.
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I didn't, I said that sending a war mission would help them.
This implies to me that the provincial actions are predetermined, based upon the four economy we have available. Thus given the policy in play, they are going to take [Main] Expand Holy Site and [Secondary] Expand Holy Site, thus costing us three economy. So we need to make up the difference enough to not go negative should we lose economy due to the crisis thus initiating a stability hit and failing the crisis, we need to get stability up to 1, and we need enough Expand Holy Sites so the literacy requirement is fulfilled.
Kind of voted into a corner here.
[] [Main] Expand Holy Sites
[] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival
[] [Secondary] War Mission-Nomadic Raiders
Seems like our best bet of actually getting this done while being true to our values and supporting the March (as they are supporting us by fighting). Other option seems to be screw em for a generation and double down on the festival to make it especially significant but that doesn't actually get us more stability (unless we DO have more festival slots ad can establish two under this current king, but the current vote on that doesn't seem to actually separate the festivals)
Gonna think about this some more and see if there are better options.
Edit: Holding vote while we discuss further.
[] [Main] Expand Holy Sites
[] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival
[] [Secondary] War Mission-Nomadic Raiders
Seems like our best bet of actually getting this done while being true to our values and supporting the March (as they are supporting us by fighting). Other option seems to be screw em for a generation and double down on the festival to make it especially significant but that doesn't actually get us more stability (unless we DO have more festival slots ad can establish two under this current king, but the current vote on that doesn't seem to actually separate the festivals)
Gonna think about this some more and see if there are better options.
Edit: Holding vote while we discuss further.
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redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
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Not confirmed, Suspected by me. AN only confirmed that war mission is adequate help. Nothing about my suspicions re stability.
Romv
A Memory of TREES
"Those sure are some hills there. Yup, hills and trees, and is that a river? Huh, no, just a blue bird. Okay, we're done here."
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Well, expand econ rather than war mission, since we'll run dangerously low on econ without it
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- Source of confusion itself.
Calm don't we don't need a war mission. Our northern nomad neighbors are just helping with our stallion problem... Let's hope someone steals him as a bride.
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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"What do you mean half the shamans in Stonepen have broken arms?"
"Apparently the rocks there are full of evil spirits, sir"
Currently at 4. It was stated that provinces apparently don't look at our action spread this turn. (I want to go way back and check because I thought they used to, but newer rulings overrule older ones anyway)
Crisis: 0 or -1
[main] Expand Holy Sites = -2
[?] Establish Annual Festival = -1
Baby Boom: possibly ending now for 0, possibly continuing for +2 (because March takes 1)
Provinces:
Expand Holy Sites = -2 or -3
Expand Economy = +1 or +2
Absolute worst case end of turn: 4-1-2-1-3+1 = -2
No Baby Boom but otherwise best case end of turn: 4-0-2-1-2+2 = 1
And with potentially bad admin rolls we'll be hitting negatives even if we get lucky on everything else.
Also, we really want to have some spare stability when the crisis hits its peak so that we can spend it reforming the system or whatever else we need to get done.
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We can help them later, once we finish the crisis. Now we need an additional buffer of expand economy to make it through.
Nope, festivals +Main Expand Holy Sites = 3 Econ, so the provinces will have to pay for their own holy sites.
Meaning that even if we toss in an extra point of econ, they will have exactly what they need and a single action that can't do anything, We'd be at 1 Econ still and they'd have 1 Free action.
Edit: And we lose econ in war missions when people are raiding us, not when we go out and help.
[X] [Main] Expand Holy Sites
[X] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival
[X] [Secondary] War Mission-Nomadic Raiders
[X] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival
[X] [Secondary] War Mission-Nomadic Raiders
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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@Academia Nut Do actions to recover resources needed to take policy actions count as policy actions? Do anything other than expand holy sites and study stars count as "spirits" actions?