[X] [Main] Expand Holy Sites
[X] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival
[X] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival x2
If there is no resource to implement policy, they will do some other action, right?
IIRC they will do actions that suppor the policy. So in this case, if there's not enough econ to expand holy sites they'll take an expand econ action
 
I do not give a damn about popular representation. I care about the system of checks and balances developed though millennia of institutional trial and error as opposed to the craps-shot that is an emergent monarchy. Also what in the name of the Crow makes you think the Stallions are anything approaching majority among the People? If that was the case we would be facing far graver consequences for repeatedly snubbing them. They are just the loud (and stupid) minority.

I think they are supported by a majority in the People due to the consistent Stability hits when we don't take them and due to the lack of any other candidates. As for checks and balances that's all well and good but the current concept is that the king and chiefs went away from that when they tried to implement the new tax system and that the Stallions are for a return of the superior "old ways" of doing things.

But I suppose AN's voice is needed here, @Academia Nut, can you speak on why the People think the chiefs are greedy? Or how popular the Stallions really are (majority vs. vocal minority).
 
@Academia Nut Our provinces can combine their own actions into mains, but can they also combine with our actions? That is, if we did a secondary expand holy sites, could one of our provinces' action be to combine with that action to make it a main?
 
In case you've missed it, they will take into account our actions so they will do a [Main] Expand Holy Sites and [Main] Expand Economy to pay for it, keeping in mind how much they have to spend.

good to know, still I would rather appreciate it if we played it smart & went with Main GS for more Stability & thus more safety from the mid turn event while also doing econ expansion, so that we can get the whole secondary actions from the provinces
 
Seriously guys? What the hell are you surprised we need to take a stability action when we were previously at 1, we took a -1 stability from rejecting the hero, thus resulting in us being at 0 which is less than the 1 we need to complete the project.

If you actually want to be concerned about something, do it about the fact that even taking a stability project this turn we can fail. That's because if we go negative economy, we lose a stability, thus meaning the economic crisis isn't resolved.
 
Ok, our Holy Site expansion will be dealt with by our provinces. We need to boost our stability and econ.

[X] [Main] Establish Annual Festival
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - Eastern Hills
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - Eastern Hills x2

This gives us +1 econ, +1 Mysticism, +1 Art, +1 Stability. Not sure on the settlement location, but that seemed like the best to start with.

We absolutely need econ to survive the "hard choices". Our provinces can do the Holy Site expansion, and this still gives us half the Mysticism generated.

guys you are killing us, please think before you vote :cry:
The provinces will automatically switch to "expand econ" and we'll get a chance to adjust our policies. Sorry, forgot to remove this after AN's clarification. Please ignore.
 
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false, lost stability from snubbing daddy's boy
Lost stability from snubbing the leader of the northern province.

Now the leader of the northern province is asking for help. Not a huge leap.

If it does return our stability to us, that means we don't need the festival. It makes room for itself.

If. Hence, discuss. Thank you.
 
Since our province will already spend 3 econ to do 3 Holy Sites....

And our Annual Festival takes another econ to get 1 Stab...

We don't have any econ without Expand Econ.

My proposal:

4 Econ
[] Main Black Soil (+1 Econ) or Main New Settlement (+1 Econ end of turn)
[] Establish Annual Festival (-1 Econ)
[] Expand Economy (+1 Econ)

[P] Holy Sites x3 (-3 Econ)
[The law] Holy Sites x1 (-1 Econ)
We can't Main Expand Economy.

This nets us 1 Econ, 1 Stab and 4 S Holy Sites (2 Main Holy Sites)
I hope that's enough to fix our problem
 
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[] [Main] Expand Holy Sites
[] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival
[] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival x2

This will cost us 3 econ, with possible 1 econ loss, bringing us down to zero.

[X] [Main] Expand Holy Sites
[X] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy

This will give us 2 or 1 econ buffer.
 
In case you've missed it, they will take into account our actions so they will do a [Main] Expand Holy Sites and [Main] Expand Economy to pay for it, keeping in mind how much they have to spend.
There's also our shiny new trait
Symphony
All have their part to play in this world, be it their interaction with each other or with the spirits. When all the parts of a group are moving in accord, the result is greater than the sum of the parts.
Pros: Bonus to collective action, spiritually and ecologically harmonious actions, and to concerted efforts
Cons: Disharmony is to be corrected, require casus belli to declare war
That means if we do Main Holy Sites, the provinces do Main Holy Sites, and and an additional secondary Holy Site on top...

We might just make it.
 
[X] [Main] Expand Holy Sites
[X] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy
 
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Do they have trees Y/N?


N = WAR! :V
Adhoc vote count started by BungieONI on Apr 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, finished with 25187 posts and 14 votes.
 
But I suppose AN's voice is needed here, @Academia Nut, can you speak on why the People think the chiefs are greedy? Or how popular the Stallions really are (majority vs. vocal minority).

They think they're greedy because that's the only sensible explanation for fucking up the tax system. The Stallions are best described of as a vocal plurality, with the majority of the People either supporting the king or being neutral, but with enough uncertainty and the continuing crisis ongoing they have been steadily growing their numbers. Because you never suppressed them, time is now up and they will force change, one way or another.

Our provinces can combine their own actions into mains, but can they also combine with our actions? That is, if we did a secondary expand holy sites, could one of our provinces' action be to combine with that action to make it a main?

It's possible, yes.
 
[X] [Main] Expand Holy Sites
[X] [Secondary] Establish Annual Festival
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy
 
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