Yeah that still makes sense, the Shadow Clones would share any psychic damage like Genjutsu, so any effect he cast on it would be spread to the rest.
 
From the jutsu doc:
  • They are very fragile:
    • 1 stress box
    • No Consequences
    • Pop if they run out of chakra
    • Pop after a certain amount of time. At level 1 they last 10 minutes. Their duration moves down the time ladder 1 step for each point of Aspect Bonus. If you have SC at 30 (AB 4) then they last "a few hours".
    • Pop if they go more than 1/2 mile x Aspect Bonus from you
    • A clone can always choose to dispel itself as a free action, and you can choose to dispel a clone at any time as a free action. Note that you can dispel the clone remotely but you do not have remote awareness of your clones, so you can only specify "I dispel Clone X", not "I dispel the clone that's doing Y".
    • All clones pop if Prime loses consciousness.

Good point. I'm not up to date on the rules docs.

While we're on the subject, wasn't there some talk about an ability to use the Mori bloodline to suddenly boost combat performance in exchange for hurt ameliorated by resolve, which is the thing Kei has been pumping like hell as part of FOOM? I'm not saying that she can go toe to toe with Orochimaru, but all she needs is a single moment of surprise when he is underestimating her.
 
Next plan cycle we really should clue Ami in about the whole Oro trying to murder us cause theirs a very good chance she will just go ahead and save us by blackmailing Asuma


Real talk: do we think Asuma actually thought this through? Kei getting murdered does cost him the war right?
 
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Next plan cycle we really should clue Ami in about the whole Oro trying to murder us cause theirs a very good chance she will just go ahead and save us by blackmailing Asuma


Real talk: do we think Asuma actually thought this through? Kei getting murdered does cost him the war right?
I'm pretty sure Asuma thinks he'll lose the war either way, but that Orochimaru (who has more personal military might versus Kei) could maybe delay the loss.

As for letting Ami know: I'm down for that.
 
Naruto absolutely had Consequences from his months of captivity with Akatsuki, yet he was perfectly capable of making Shadow Clones for our first conversation.
It's probably mostly that we have specifically a Physical Severe of a nature that causes us pain whenever we move funny. A malnourishment physical severe probably wouldn't auto-pop any clones we make, and neither would a Mental Consequence probably, but we managed to luck into the kind of physical damage that would auto-pop.

Unrelated, who else thinks that Jiraiya's perpetual sleep-deprivation during his time as Hokage is related to Shadow Clones popping when you fall asleep? When you're in five places at once, there's a much bigger chance that one of you will be doing something crucial that can't be interrupted, and Jiraiya Prime can't afford to sleep until all of the clones are done for the day.
 
Real talk: do we think Asuma actually thought this through? Kei getting murdered does cost him the war right?

Nope, Kei dying is not sure(It could, in the sense that everything could happen) to bring Mist into the war, Ami is not that powerful, nor the only player in Mist. On the other hand, losing Orochimaru means an auto-loss: If Oro defects, Leaf will be weak enough that Cloud and Rock will ally for a join strike with 4 S-rankers, wiping out, at best, the total military of the Village.
Is tempting to assume Ami is the Sage reborn, but she's not.
Now, if we could offer him a solution to said direct attack, like the summoning army....
 
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Real talk: do we think Asuma actually thought this through? Kei getting murdered does cost him the war right?
Imo it comes down to what the Mori clan as a whole wants and they may be grateful Leaf isn't keeping their bloodline. Then again, Oro would be attempting to uncover their secrets which has problems of its own.

But like if Ryuugamine decides it's in Mist's best interest to help Leaf I feel like that's what's gonna happen regardless of Ami's scheming
 
Suddenly everything makes so much sense.

The predecessor elements predate him, but I believe it's known as the Whedon school of filmcraft. As much as I joke about season two of Firefly, it's probably best for everybody that it never got made. "Leaf on the wind" is nothing compared to what was coming. I strongly believe that it is (barely) only public knowledge because actual casting decisions were made based on it because it was known in advance that a lot of struggling actresses would have decided that being a waitress ain't so bad and nopped the hell out. There was some Hitchcockian level cognitohazard shit in store. Zoey was not kidding about the Reavers.
 
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The predecessor elements predate him, but I believe it's known as the Whedon school of filmcraft. As much as I joke about season two of Firefly, it's probably best for everybody that it never got made. "Leaf on the wind" is nothing compared to what was coming. I strongly believe that it is (barely) only public knowledge because actual casting decisions were made based on it because it was known in advance that a lot of struggling actresses would have decided that being a waitress ain't so bad and nopped the hell out. There was some Hitchcockian level cognitohazard shit in store. Zoey was not kidding about the Reavers.
I have been a big fan of Whedon's work for the last 20 years. Clearly it was a formative influence.
 
If I remember right. Itachi genjutsu a shadow clone. It popped. Naruto original suffered. I interpreted the clone popping as due to taking consequences. So I guess oro could harm keiko through snowflake. But snowflake would still pop
faflec made the quote but I'll point out the key part: Itachi stared at a clone, then stabbed it.

The predecessor elements predate him, but I believe it's known as the Whedon school of filmcraft. As much as I joke about season two of Firefly, it's probably best for everybody that it never got made. "Leaf on the wind" is nothing compared to what was coming. I strongly believe that it is (barely) only public knowledge because actual casting decisions were made based on it because it was known in advance that a lot of struggling actresses would have decided that being a waitress ain't so bad and nopped the hell out. There was some Hitchcockian level cognitohazard shit in store. Zoey was not kidding about the Reavers.
I have no idea what this means and, concerned as it makes me, I would like to know. Spill?
 
faflec made the quote but I'll point out the key part: Itachi stared at a clone, then stabbed it.


I have no idea what this means and, concerned as it makes me, I would like to know. Spill?
From the bottom of the charred remains of what I am still arrogant enough to call a soul, you really don't. I am speaking as somebody who knows that memetic hazards are a thing because they know that Rod Serling wrote the only movie to ever have the FAA sue in court over it. I am speaking as somebody who wrote a horror story about a young man who had his first crush turned giant cannibalistic spider rape him over a floor covered in her father's blood. If you absolutely insist, I will tell you, but only because the alternative would be denying you a choice and in context that would be too perverse for me. For me. Are you absolutely sure that you want this thing rattling around in your head for the rest of your life?
 
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From the bottom of the charred remains of what I am still arrogant enough to call a soul, you really don't. I am speaking as somebody who knows that memetic hazards are a thing because they know that Rod Serling wrote the only movie to ever have the FAA sue in court over it. I am speaking as somebody who wrote a horror story about a young man who had his first crush turned giant cannibalistic spider rape him over a floor covered in her father's blood. If you absolutely insist, I will tell you, but only because the alternative would be denying you a choice and in context that would be too perverse for me. For me. Are you absolutely sure that you want this thing rattling around in your head for the rest of your life?
Yes. That sounds thrilling. PM it to me if you don't want to post that publicly. (I know I can probably google it, but your description would probably be much more compelling.)
 
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Real talk: do we think Asuma actually thought this through? Kei getting murdered does cost him the war right?

Not really, no. Kei is connected to a lot of people. Like Ami. And Naruto. And the Nara. And the only thing worse than being on the bad side of an "essie" is being on the bad side of an "essie" AND a lot of smart people. Which is what he probably would end up with if that kind of thing happens to Kei and he could've stopped it but literally just said "nah".

Now if no one knows he could've prevented it, which might be what he's hoping for. Then he might be able to avoid any real consequences.
 
Yes. That sounds thrilling. PM it to me if you don't want to post that publicly.
Screw it. Somebody is going to ask anyway. Might as well post it here. All I can say is that I absolutely swear on everything I have ever held dear: you do not want to click this button.

Y'know how companions are a state-sponsored guild? Yeah, they have developed methods to deter predators intent on "stealing the goods". Whether it is a poison they are conditioned to or a viral or biologic agent they were vaccinated against isn't established because it's not really important. Early in the season it was revealed that every licenced companion was required by law to at all times keep a serum on them to take the moment they thought that the guild monopoly might be threatened in order to deter people from attempting it.

If you see where I'm going with this stop reading and be thankful.

This was supposed to be a casual highlight the audience would think nothing else of. Until Inara and Malcom have a squabble which results in her storming off right into the hands of Reavers.

Because any lazy sit-com writer knows the importance of maintaining the will-they won't-they dynamic and we are talking about somebody who is notorious for subverting tropes the hero achieves legends to almost arrive in time and has to personally carry her barely strong enough to even still breathe body while carefully not making eye contact off of what is a dead ghost ship whose only other inhabitants are the corpses of literally hundreds of dead Reavers. The implications are left to the audience.
 
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Real talk: do we think Asuma actually thought this through? Kei getting murdered does cost him the war right?
Asuma's talk about private individuals opposing Oro being different from the Tower didn't make sense. But I don't think asuma would make such a mistake on accident, even if he didn't think things through. So feels like something else is up
 
Screw it. Somebody is going to ask anyway. Might as well post it here. All I can say is that I absolutely swear on everything I have ever held dear: you do not want to click this button.

Y'know how companions are a state-sponsored guild? Yeah, they have developed methods to deter predators intent on "stealing the goods". Whether it is a poison they are conditioned to or a viral or biologic agent they were vaccinated against isn't established because it's not really important. Early in the season it was revealed that every licenced companion was required by law to at all times keep a serum on them to take the moment they thought that the guild monopoly might be threatened in order to deter people from attempting it.

If you see where I'm going with this stop reading and be thankful.

This was supposed to be a casual highlight the audience would think nothing else of. Until Insta and Malcom have a squabble which results in her storming of right into the hands of Reavers.

Because any lazy sit-com writer knows the importance of maintaining the will-they won't-they dynamic and we are taking about somebody who is notorious for subverting tropes the hero achieves legends to almost arrive in time and has to personally carry her barely strong enough to even still breathe body while carefully not making eye contact off of what is a dead ghost ship whose only other inhabitants are the corpses of literally hundreds of dead Reavers. The implications are left to the audience.
It says a lot about me that when I read this my first thought was "Wait, is that it?".
 
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