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- The Void
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- She/Her
Oh I'm right there with you. Thread sucks at doing anything that takes initiative. But we got .5 exp per day plan when we tried a new format. I'd expect a 1 exp per day for the quality of the plan
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
- Location
- Yes.
I'm pretty sure we did stuff that wasn't mission related. Like an After-Action Report, or romancing Akane, or making sure the mass murder of civilians isn't fucking with the team.
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- The Void
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- She/Her
I don't expect the thread to ever do anything that isn't what is explicitly put right in front of them. I don't think we will ever complete a long term goal that is not assigned to us
- Location
- USA
It is not always going to be a grand problem to work around, sometimes you have to do a bit of drudge work to get by. We just need to figure out how to be more efficient in our planning for the bonus exp for reasoned plans.
If we can not make the trip out to help the farmer make it home faster, the least we can do is make the home he arrives at better. I am sure there is something we can do that would not be overt that could help out the farmstead we are at.
If we can not make the trip out to help the farmer make it home faster, the least we can do is make the home he arrives at better. I am sure there is something we can do that would not be overt that could help out the farmstead we are at.
@eaglejarl this should be chapter 143
Our job right now is LITERALLY the mission. Notice that the action plan isn't even linked. We don't have time for anything else until we get back home.
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- The Void
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- She/Her
Whatever man. It's not like being on the mission changes anything. We don't do anything ever.
- Location
- Australia
We have a number of long-term goals. We haven't made much progress in them for a few reasons. They are very long term. We haven't actually had much free time to work on sealing and uplift. We keep getting new disasters thrown into our laps. Most of them are extremely difficult.
- Uplift the Elemental Nations. Create a Chakra punk setting
- Advance communication technology with semaphores and morse/binary transmissions (Should be fairly easy with the proper seals)
- Create chakra powered mills (Using timed storage seals to manipulate mass and pressure)
- Create automatic sealing machines (Using precise engineering of clockwork)
- Acquire immortality
- Advance medical technology with microscopes
- Spread humanity to other planets so they don't become extinct when the earth is destroyed
- Test Radvic's weaponry on Earth.
Jesus. Half of the thread wants to help Noburi with medical research. The other half wants to invent hot air ballooning. It's not like we don't have goals of our own.
Minami was the one who pushed everyone TO DO THE MISSION.
So calm down and don't throw a fit at the QMs.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Kagome is a freaking gem.
[X] Action Plan: Slay the Beast
- Take Minami aside and talk about helping our contact out.
- Suggest that instead of going to find the husband and son, we could take a crack at finding and killing the chakra beast tonight. It's probably laired around here somewhere.
- Point out that Jiraiya did not cancel the "help contacts as opportunity presents" order so being covert has its limits.
- Also point out that unless we do something, there's nothing stopping the chakra beast from coming back and destroying this farmstead, which would be a blow to J's network.
- Besides, it would be nice to do something unambiguously good and we're very experienced killing chakra beasts.
- Take Minami aside and talk about helping our contact out.
- Suggest that instead of going to find the husband and son, we could take a crack at finding and killing the chakra beast tonight. It's probably laired around here somewhere.
- Point out that Jiraiya did not cancel the "help contacts as opportunity presents" order so being covert has its limits.
- Also point out that unless we do something, there's nothing stopping the chakra beast from coming back and destroying this farmstead, which would be a blow to J's network.
- Besides, it would be nice to do something unambiguously good and we're very experienced killing chakra beasts.
- Location
- Yes.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail The update suggests that the contact we just visited is in Nagi Island, but the contact says her family is going to the city in O'uzu. Does this mean they're crossing the ocean?
redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
- Location
- Canada
Alright, your personal distaste for 'the thread' is noted. Tell us, wise one, what would you have done in this last update, had you complete and total control of the quest?
- Location
- The Void
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- She/Her
Have the poly talk with Akane. find a glassmaker in leaf and buy a telescope
Personally I see no reason that we should make Hazou polyamorous. I'm perfectly happy having him be perfectly happy with a monogamous relationship with Akane and would prefer to toss the whole "poly" business in the garbage as some idle thoughts he had and has since reconsidered.
I have zero desire to manipulate Hazō's romantic relationship beyond what is already naturally occurring. That is, a relationship with Akane.
Also a telescope wasn't available for us to buy, so it's a moot point.
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- Yes.
Real talk, does anyone else think we could convince Minami to help the contact, even if indirectly? I was considering suggesting that we follow the trail, find them, and say that we're going to be clearing out some of the chakra monsters in the area so you'll be safe (and then do so).
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- The Void
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- She/Her
Perfectly valid. If not team poly I would have just taken a walk in the park with Akane. Then just talk about what life in leaf is like. Talk about each other's childhood
Give her trade goods? Do chores? We probably will leave tomorrow given how Minami is in a hurry.
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
So me and @Oneiros43 were having a rather enlightening conversation in chat. Turns out we're responsible for the deaths of about ~50 nin when all is said and done. Something is flagging my "something weird is going on here" sensor, so here this post is.
We hear in the beginning of the quest that Mist estimates that Leaf has 1000-1500 ninja, best estimate about 1200-1300 ninja. If the two Mountain clans that fought us could oppose us and still have a viable face to show us later could spare 50 ninja between them, I estimate that those clans had maybe 150 ninja total, because about 1/3 is the maximum number of military forces I can imagine that they would be able to commit after calling up anyone they could spare and being able to still talk afterwards. Extrapolating outwards through the clans, the whole Mountain Village has maybe 700 ninja to the outside. This implies that a village hidden in the middle of bumfuck nowhere has about half the ninja that Leaf does. Something is very wrong here.
The distinct possibility is that those numbers were most of the two clan's numbers; I doubt it, especially since the two clans are still in a position to negotiate rather than being dismissed as "you're all civilians you what mate". In the aftermath, it also states that several dozen ninja were there watching over us, which is still nearly 10% of their entire force at the upper bound.
So! What could be going wrong? How does a village in bumfuck nowhere having no contact with the outside world have half the amount of ninja that Leaf does? I think it's because of insanely high casualty rates. I also think that a large portion of the lower ranked troops in ninja warfare are from allied clans rather than the actual villages themselves. This means that all the ninja villages are constantly in a state of trying to woo over the neighboring clans to beat up the other guy, 'cept Grass and Waterfall said "fuck no" and are essentially the sixth Great Hidden Village, taken together with the alliance of minor villages Grass put together.
This raises the real possibility that the Warring States Period may not be over yet. If that's the case, and none of the national boundaries are well defined, then I expect to see everyone be killing each other at every opportunity, skyrocketing mission fatalities (assume that any ninja encountering foreign nin have a 50% survival rate or worse), and a set of loosely defined alliances and an even harsher sense of tribalism. The only difference is that rather than be thousands of different clans, we're now dealing with hundreds who are still busy fighting over every scrap of land. The power centers wouldn't be all that different either; it'd simply revolve around five more well defined power centers rather than the nebulous web of power nodes that are constantly shifting.
In other words; There is no Fourth Great War because the First never ended and never really started; It's all just an extension of the Warring States Period. We don't have nationstates here; we have feudalism fueled by fucktons of magic, and the two solutions are an alliance to end all alliances or one nation above all.
We hear in the beginning of the quest that Mist estimates that Leaf has 1000-1500 ninja, best estimate about 1200-1300 ninja. If the two Mountain clans that fought us could oppose us and still have a viable face to show us later could spare 50 ninja between them, I estimate that those clans had maybe 150 ninja total, because about 1/3 is the maximum number of military forces I can imagine that they would be able to commit after calling up anyone they could spare and being able to still talk afterwards. Extrapolating outwards through the clans, the whole Mountain Village has maybe 700 ninja to the outside. This implies that a village hidden in the middle of bumfuck nowhere has about half the ninja that Leaf does. Something is very wrong here.
The distinct possibility is that those numbers were most of the two clan's numbers; I doubt it, especially since the two clans are still in a position to negotiate rather than being dismissed as "you're all civilians you what mate". In the aftermath, it also states that several dozen ninja were there watching over us, which is still nearly 10% of their entire force at the upper bound.
So! What could be going wrong? How does a village in bumfuck nowhere having no contact with the outside world have half the amount of ninja that Leaf does? I think it's because of insanely high casualty rates. I also think that a large portion of the lower ranked troops in ninja warfare are from allied clans rather than the actual villages themselves. This means that all the ninja villages are constantly in a state of trying to woo over the neighboring clans to beat up the other guy, 'cept Grass and Waterfall said "fuck no" and are essentially the sixth Great Hidden Village, taken together with the alliance of minor villages Grass put together.
This raises the real possibility that the Warring States Period may not be over yet. If that's the case, and none of the national boundaries are well defined, then I expect to see everyone be killing each other at every opportunity, skyrocketing mission fatalities (assume that any ninja encountering foreign nin have a 50% survival rate or worse), and a set of loosely defined alliances and an even harsher sense of tribalism. The only difference is that rather than be thousands of different clans, we're now dealing with hundreds who are still busy fighting over every scrap of land. The power centers wouldn't be all that different either; it'd simply revolve around five more well defined power centers rather than the nebulous web of power nodes that are constantly shifting.
In other words; There is no Fourth Great War because the First never ended and never really started; It's all just an extension of the Warring States Period. We don't have nationstates here; we have feudalism fueled by fucktons of magic, and the two solutions are an alliance to end all alliances or one nation above all.
- Location
- USA
We could rent a book to take on missions with us to read during down times or smaller projects related to a larger goal, we could be working with Noburi about his project he still has yet to decide for us to do. We could talk with our team about how the mission so far has effected us and work out how to do better next time. We could fix up things around the area we are at, make life easier for everyone around us with D rank mission tasks done for free.
And some times you don't have the absolute freedom to do what you want to do, that is part of being in the military and doing your job. There are going to be times when doing the mission is all we can do at the expense of what we would like to do. Our personal growth will be impacted on the short term but our overall strength and standing will be better for having done the work. @Oneiros43 this is one of those times, we have a mid term goal of staying out of Leaf for Jiraiya to give us a safe place to start working on our personal projects that we as a thread want to accomplish.
@Briefvoice I was unaware that there was a clear a pressing danger to the Husband and Son that required them to be saved. It was my understanding that the Farmstead Wife wants the Husband and Son to have increased odds and speed at which they could arrive back home safe by sending us out to assist during this bout of inclement weather. Something which the Farmstead would have had lived through before no doubt. Given what minami said about keeping a lower profile I would say that our time would be better spent fixing thing up around the farmstead. Noburi looking at the animals and doing basic medical checkups on them plus giving the Wife a checkup too, Akane with Kagome fixing the tools and patching up the building. I am unsure what aid Keiko Hazou and Minami could accomplish without giving to much away so basic house keeping tasks that would be to simple for Kagome and Akane to waste time that could be spent on tougher tasks around the Farmstead, or else supervise Kagome so that he does not turn the building into a death tarp that is noticeable.
And some times you don't have the absolute freedom to do what you want to do, that is part of being in the military and doing your job. There are going to be times when doing the mission is all we can do at the expense of what we would like to do. Our personal growth will be impacted on the short term but our overall strength and standing will be better for having done the work. @Oneiros43 this is one of those times, we have a mid term goal of staying out of Leaf for Jiraiya to give us a safe place to start working on our personal projects that we as a thread want to accomplish.
@Briefvoice I was unaware that there was a clear a pressing danger to the Husband and Son that required them to be saved. It was my understanding that the Farmstead Wife wants the Husband and Son to have increased odds and speed at which they could arrive back home safe by sending us out to assist during this bout of inclement weather. Something which the Farmstead would have had lived through before no doubt. Given what minami said about keeping a lower profile I would say that our time would be better spent fixing thing up around the farmstead. Noburi looking at the animals and doing basic medical checkups on them plus giving the Wife a checkup too, Akane with Kagome fixing the tools and patching up the building. I am unsure what aid Keiko Hazou and Minami could accomplish without giving to much away so basic house keeping tasks that would be to simple for Kagome and Akane to waste time that could be spent on tougher tasks around the Farmstead, or else supervise Kagome so that he does not turn the building into a death tarp that is noticeable.
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- Location
- Australia
Tailing the husband to the city without revealing ourselves shouldn't compromise OPSEC.
- Location
- Yes.
I was thinking less "tailing" and more "run up ahead and kill all the chakra monsters that could threaten them".