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- Austria
I mean, both are prisons, but minification will offer more freedom while being less risky (and less ambitious).
I am not sure why minification is listed as more harsh than a complete loss of body and mind autonomy.
Dragon Ball: After the End
I mean, both are prisons, but minification will offer more freedom while being less risky (and less ambitious).
I am not sure why minification is listed as more harsh than a complete loss of body and mind autonomy.
maybe it's really embarrassing?
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- Austria
Uh.
One of options means dragon losing every iota of body autonomy and, given that we can lock him out of our senses, complete and utter sensory deprivation at whim of a jailer.
Other is...more embarrassing?
I mean, I gguess, but if that's the case dragon has some strange sense of priorities.
No, I mean that Kakara would then become a Saiyan-Princess-Martial Artist-Seer-Dragonhost, her character concept is a mess!
That way lies being Samuel Haight.
Please don't be Samuel Haight.
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- Australia
How is it less risky? In chibi form, all he has to do is find a person willing and able to undo the seal and bingo presto he's free to do whatever. If he's inside Kakara, he will not be able to search for allies and anyone who decides to free him would have to get through Kakara first.
Chibi dragon can refuse to engage rehabilitation, forcing him is reaffirming his views.
This form is vulnerable to misguided execution efforts by extremists.
It is difficult to release him after rehabilitation OR easy to find someone to unbind it.
Headdragon cannot, and Kakara truly lives her ideals as a living example with superhuman diplomacy.
This form is immune to assassination, all killing Kakara does is release him.
Should rehabilitation succeed, release is easy
This form is vulnerable to misguided execution efforts by extremists.
It is difficult to release him after rehabilitation OR easy to find someone to unbind it.
Headdragon cannot, and Kakara truly lives her ideals as a living example with superhuman diplomacy.
This form is immune to assassination, all killing Kakara does is release him.
Should rehabilitation succeed, release is easy
It's not less risky. We've been other that. Please don't bring it up again. In fact, since the term for while a chibi is "mostly harmless" compared to while inside Kakara's "completely harmless", sealed inside Kakara would seem to be less risky. And it's listed as less harsh, though only mildly so to being inside Kakara.
Dragons are traditionally prideful creatures that would prefer death to humiliation, which seems to play out here(I think he would honestly prefer to be killed).
Other then that, he seems to spend large amounts of time alone, in deep space, with nothing to do, for long periods of time. It's entirely possible such things don't bother him as it would more social creatures. That's not to say he wouldn't likely appreciate company and having access to Kakara TV, judging by the option.
That depends on what kills Kakara. It's not the most likely outcome.
- Location
- England, unfortunately.
- Pronouns
- She/They
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
Im sorry, but I don't want to give SV their own personal Shoulder devil. We're bad enough without encouragement.
Im sorry, but I don't want to give SV their own personal Shoulder devil. We're bad enough without encouragement.
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- Australia
Actually, all it does is turn his animate prison into an inanimate prison. In other words, he'll stay sealed in her corpse.
Why does refusing to be rehabilitated while possessing an actual body is a thing and refusing to be rehabilitated while being inside Kakara's head isn't? It's not like being forced to see Kakara's life is actually going to endear her to him while he is stuck without a physical body and most sensations. I mean, you can cite Stockholm Syndrome, but relying on psychological vulnerability of a space dragon is kinda questionable (besides my instinctual rejection of willing to fuck with him psychologically for the 'greater good')
And even if he does refuse to be rehabilitated, him being stuck in his chibi form renders him powerless. He can totally choose to continue being an asshole, he simply wouldn't be able to actually leverage that into deeds.
He can still mess up furniture like its nobodies business.
redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
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- Canada
Not if we lock him in the bathroom until the guests leave!He can still mess up furniture like its nobodies business.
... I hate when people do that irl tbh.
Never done it myself, but I certainly understand the temptation.
Anyway, people? Let's all take a step back, go do something fun, cool off and remember:
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- Austria
Sealing inside us gives him no reason for rehab either, so I see no indication which one is more or less likely to engage him in rehab.
Execution-proneness...well I guess I can give you, assuming some idiot will try to murder the personal warden of Lady Scion, The Spirit Saiyan. I guess Dandeer might?
He can still mess up furniture like its nobodies business.
We are not sealing him into a cat; no need to contaminate poor lizard with elemental evil.
Conceptualist
Best Mega Sceptile
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- I'm on the internet. Duh.
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
- Location
- England, unfortunately.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Trust me, there's always idiots.
That said, we've also probably learned to take precautions following the Near Masscre of the scouts.
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- Actually pretty lost
Oh geeze, there's really good arguments both ways. I might change my vote.
Oh shit. Jaffur pulled some sorcerous shit to send us ki for the Spirit Bomb. She's had an alert that someone was fiddling with the seal!
Or she sensed Jaffur's Ki. Or she's convinced that with this, Kakara is going to make her move and so is going into hiding with her family. Or she's lost hope and is about commit murder-suicide.
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- Actually pretty lost
Well, if she doesn't find anything (we can hope!) her obsession has cost her a great deal of face among the sorcerers just now, and probably with Berra too.
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Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
That is the most likely reason. It would make her drop everything.
Also it would seem to make sense to me to break the seal now when Kakara's political capital is at its highest. It is well know that political capital devalues fast.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Scrying inside of ourselves seems to cause OW OW OW and failure.
Present circumstances may be bending the rules. Dazarel is like the kind of thing you'd make up specifically to give someone an incentive to break the Code of Superman and kill the villain. And even a "paragon for life technical pacifist run" character like Kakara might be at least tempted. For a brief, guilty moment.
When do we ever do anything else? I mean, we can pick up mountains on a whim, and make sharp ninety-degree turns while flying at hypersonic (or, hell, relativistic) speeds.
"I'm disappointed in you, Adrian. I'm very disappointed. Violating conservation of momentum was the first trick I learned. It didn't stop Maya when she was six. Did you really think it would stop me?"
The probability, in 1870, that within the next century, our solar system would suddenly become geocentric and forcing all our astronomers to rethink their models that way was effectively zero.
The probability, in 1870, that within the next century, we would find out that time and space are interrelated quantities, that rays of light bank-shot around the Sun on curved trajectories, and that the planet Mercury can make a complete circle around the Sun while tracing out only 359.99997 degrees instead of 360, was effectively one.
The average 1870 astronomer would have considered "there are exactly 360 degrees in any circle, no more and no less, as was shown by Euclid and the Babylonians" to be just about as certain a proposition as "the Earth orbits the Sun," and both propositions to be about as certain as "light travels in a straight line."
Then the general theory of relativity happened.
The reason I bring this up here is that we're in unknown territory in terms of the amounts of power being thrown around and the capabilities being sealed, as well as Kakara personally having a high likelihood of encountering similarly unknown phenomena in the future. Relativity doesn't have readily measurable effects when you drop an apple out of a tree, but has (barely) measurable effects on a planet orbiting the Sun closely. And even more measurable effects when you talk about, say, black holes*. Extreme conditions are the conditions most likely to show us that we didn't quite know everything we thought we knew.
This isn't my only, and may not even be my primary, reason for voting "chibi." But it's in there.
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*Black holes shouldn't even exist under Newtonian physics, but their existence becomes so obvious under relativity, a guy working in a World War One trench with
That sounds like a super bad idea. I mean, "on par with letting go of Raditz' tail" bad.
Yeah. The MOMENT this is over, we check up on Jaron.
I super sympathize.
I do NOT want Kakara going down the road of "I become lethal and/or dangerously power-hungry."
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- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
It's not. Note that the harshness listing of cat-prison with control is the same language as in us, and would, self evidently, bother Dazarel more than having his own body, given, among other points, his response.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
The is a chance that sealing it inside us will make us black out for a bit and I want to check up on Jaron right now.
The is a chance that sealing it inside us will make us black out for a bit and I want to check up on Jaron right now.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I deem it unlikely that we'd be knocked out, but possible?