Dragon Ball: After the End
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Oh boy, that's a question with loads of symbolic and cultural significance.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I don't plan on restricting them to a hard cap, but if I hand out cookies constantly, then even with the limitation on how many can apply to any one roll I might as well just give you all a +30 bonus to everything. Which I don't want to do for fear of trivializing the quest.
Oh yeah it is. Bardock is well-known as the first Super Saiyan, thanks to the Seers, and also the source of the Craft (somehow). Grandpa Gohan, meanwhile, is viewed as something equivalent to the Virgin Mary in the Cult. To more secular Saiyans he's just an old man who raised Goku. How often do people care about Winston Churchill's Dad?
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Bah. Hate that special.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
As do I. I much prefer the TFS version. That said, I'll roll with it and just...pretend Bardock didn't suffer character assassination. The real Bardock would have been an awesome Super Saiyan.
What kind of die is rolled, anyways? Kinda wondering how big a +10 bonus is.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
*Thinks of Nameless Shadow Quest on QQ*
While that is a valid fear, it kinda makes me feel like my Elsewhere and Elsewhen Omake was worthless.
What this tells me is that the Cult is largely a positive force for saiyan morality.
That one's the GMs fault for taking forever between updates. Seriously he/she takes longer on those than Avalanche does on his.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
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- They/Them
d100's behind the scenes.
Hm. I mean, I really did enjoy it, and it's got a threadmark as a non-canon omake. I think I'll codify it as handing out the cookies for canon omakes, and threadmark the non-canon ones for interesting reading.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
A Question: Have there ever been any rebellions that instead of going super saiyan, decides to go the route of training the Masque'd forms to SSJ levels?
Tenshinhan's showing against Cell says that it should be possible for a human to train to that level, especially if they have a gravity chamber like Tenshinhan didn't.
Tenshinhan's showing against Cell says that it should be possible for a human to train to that level, especially if they have a gravity chamber like Tenshinhan didn't.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
They actually never did think of that. They don't have a gravity chamber ("WE'RE WORKING ON IT!"), but mostly it's more that they simply don't consider that sort of thing.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
The spaceship didn't have one?
Is Bardock looked up to as a legendary hero who tried to save the Saiyan race from Freeza and succesfully beat his ancestor Chilled, is he reviled as a genocidal monster who slaughtered millions (possibly billions) of innocents (and brought terror to those who heard his name) or somewhere in between?
(Not betting on Bardock being reviled).
For that matter, how do the Saiyans view the (original/pure/actual) Saiyans of Planet Vegeta? Do they look at them like modern Germany look at the Nazis, or do modern Saiyans largely gloss over their genocidal tendencies?
Would that even be possible? As in, can you train your masqued power to surpass your normal base power?
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Not this one, no.
Bardock and the ancient Saiyans are a point of confusion and conflict. In part they gloss over them, in part they're held in contempt because the "great warrior race" was too training-shy to figure out that they could reach multiple millions of power units with ease, and in part they are a source of great shame, yes. Bardock in particular is a figure of focused uncertainty, because of the revelations that the Seers came out with. He was the first Super Saiyan, and acted at least in part out of a desire for redemption, but later records are unclear as to whether or not that stuck. After all, he clearly developed an attachment in the wake of the crippling loss of the death of his entire race, so the extent to which you could even call that redemption is unclear. He is ultimately respected as a powerful warrior and one of the two progenitors of the modern Saiyan race, but also a source of some sorrow for his misdeeds.
It's possible, just very slow. And nobody wants to bother.
Assuming they get their base to 15 million and archieve full base power in masque, it'd still be better than no power increase, though, wouldn't it?
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
It would be, but it would take ages and they'd be a complete outsider in Saiyan society as a result. After all, who wants to be around the weirdo who never takes their Masque off?
Does their masqued power increase as fast as the power of an actual human would increase with the same training or does the fact that they're not actually human at least slow their power growth a little (unless they archieve legendary masque affinity or something)?
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Actually, I just looked through my old stuff and hit myself immediately. No, you can't grind Masque power above your base power. Stupid Poptart, it's part of the Masque Affinity skill that you gain access to greater fractions of your base strength as you grind the skill.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
To be fair, it wasn't the fault of the saiyins. It's just that hybrid saiya-jin are bullshit.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
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- They/Them
Yeah, the way I actually explain it is that the Saiyans were already well above the average strength of most other races, so what did they have to strive for? Your average Saiyan on the street didn't care that Freeza was ungodly strong, they were just smug about being capable of laying planets to waste single-handedly.
@PoptartProdigy
Since you're using the BoD power level system, I'd like to ask about something that was brought up there. What happened to Penguin Village in this quest? It's kind of off from the rest of the setting, but...
Since you're using the BoD power level system, I'd like to ask about something that was brought up there. What happened to Penguin Village in this quest? It's kind of off from the rest of the setting, but...
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
I will note that Vegeta seemed to be of the opinion that training was no patch on innate status in his first fight with Goku.
So there probably was some training, but as the galaxy has a much worse understanding of Ki than the Mutatio derived schools or those in contact with the Otherworld (like Piccolo via Kami) their form of training probably wasn't anywhere near the sort of effectiveness of Earthling training regimes.
So there probably was some training, but as the galaxy has a much worse understanding of Ki than the Mutatio derived schools or those in contact with the Otherworld (like Piccolo via Kami) their form of training probably wasn't anywhere near the sort of effectiveness of Earthling training regimes.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Arale's hometown? Much like the rest of the Earth, the enemy happened. Boom.
Yes, well, I was thinking more of the people there.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
dead, presumably