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Dragon Ball: After the End

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Quest said:
You're misunderstanding me. I am only talking about what the potential use of those abilities together would look like and how awesome they would be. Not whether or not Kakara should go for it or even whether actually using it together would even be feasible.
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Eh, fair enough, but I still want that said because, well, players tend to go 'we should go for the awesome thing because awesome'.
 
In response to all of the Super-spoilered stuff,

Ultra Instinct appears strongly to be a very bastardized version of the concept of mushin, that is, of moving without thought. It's not precognition; it's simply removing conscious thought from your combat routine and letting trained instincts take over completely. The reason doing this is gainful is because thinking about something delays you from doing it. Learning to trust your instincts and sustain this state is a very long and difficult process. It looks like precognition because it lets your reaction times spike so high, but in reality it is at it's simplest just weaponizing and streamlining the flinch reflex.

Also, its depiction via ultra instinct in Super makes me absolutely furious for reasons which aren't gainful to discuss here, but that's ultimately secondary to the point of: no, this wasn't UI.
 
Quest said:
Have you considered the political implications of using Jaffur's personal Style in front of all the Exiles? It would be a statement on much more than just this particular moment, what with the sealing.

It would also piss off Dandeer.
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It isn't Jaffur's, at least in appearance. Jaffur's is tight to the body, while Tabe's is shining light.
Jaffur's Boost said:
His aura shifts, wrapping closer around his body -- less him standing in a blue bonfire, and more him wreathed in shining sapphire flames. You have never seen this before. You don't recall any stories of anybody having ever seen something like this before
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Tabe's Boost said:
Tabe is barely visible in the center of the storm, the wisps of power flaring off of him blurring his outline. He looks less like he's surrounded by an aura, and more like he's bleeding light and power into the world around him.
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(Accidentally removed the arrows, so first is from Capacity Does Not Imply Intent, second from Age Of Legends)
 
PoptartProdigy said:
In response to all of the Super-spoilered stuff,

Ultra Instinct appears strongly to be a very bastardized version of the concept of mushin, that is, of moving without thought. It's not precognition; it's simply removing conscious thought from your combat routine and letting trained instincts take over completely. The reason doing this is gainful is because thinking about something delays you from doing it. Learning to trust your instincts and sustain this state is a very long and difficult process. It looks like precognition because it lets your reaction times spike so high, but in reality it is at it's simplest just weaponizing and streamlining the flinch reflex.

Also, its depiction via ultra instinct in Super makes me absolutely furious for reasons which aren't gainful to discuss here, but that's ultimately secondary to the point of: no, this wasn't UI.
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I would nonetheless be curious to know those reasons, if at any point you are inclined to share them.

fictionfan said:
[ ] Enthusiastically congratulate him on a good match and a cool trick and help him to his feet. Everybody look at the cheerful bubbly Scion. No need to think about what that trick was. Yes. You will lead him out of sight and ask what the fuck that was in private. This is not the place. If any people haven't realized the implications of this yet, you're not helping them do it.
-[]well you do so have your aura go into Jaffur style. Complement him on taking it farther than you have yet.

That way its Tabe knows a cool trick, but no need to panic the royals know it as well. The balance of power is the same as ever.
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Well, it's certainly a good bluff. On the other hand, Jaffur Style is widely recognized as "that thing Jaffur did." It's going to call attention to us-and-Jaffur in a way we may or may not want.

fictionfan said:
She is already so pissed off that more pissed off is in our favor. If we piss her off enough then she might attack quickly rather than waiting for the moment we are most vunerable.

Also most Saiyans have not seen his style.
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Jaffur had widespread popularity and a reputation as a warrior prince, and spent like 4/5 of all days training in the Hall, prior to the events of the prologue. He has almost certainly sparred with hundreds of other saiyans, both adults and children, and has practiced his techniques in public to at least some extent.

And everyone is here, especially everyone who knows a lot about fighting and ki manipulation.

People are gonna notice. Plus, we can't yet fight like Jaffur with the condensed-ki trick, so it would be kind of a fakeout. That might be spotted too.

Carrnage said:
Anyway i am thinking

[] Enthusiastically congratulate him on a good match and a cool trick and help him to his feet. Everybody look at the cheerful bubbly Scion. No need to think about what that trick was. Yes. You will lead him out of sight and ask what the fuck that was in private. This is not the place. If any people haven't realized the implications of this yet, you're not helping them do it.
-[] Telepath dad co-ordinating to keep the crowd from jumping to many unpleasant conclusions and ensure that the family doesn't panic while you figure out tabe.
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Good idea.

Quest said:
It's not casualty-breaking. To use other anime examples, it's basically a mixture of Hyper-Instinct from Katekyo Hitman Reborn and Auto-Pilot from Medaka Box. A martial artist becomes so good at fighting that they can read the combat situation perfectly, and then act/react in the most efficient way needed. And this is all instinctive, without thinking about it.

There isn't an explicit increase in speed or power, but they can use what they have so well that it doesn't really matter. It's less of a supermode and more reaching a certain mindset and level of skill.
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I have never heard of either of those things, but that's sort of beside the point. What I'm getting at is, if it enables (for instance) a merely mortal man to dodge bullets, then he must begin moving before the bullets were fired. If it enables a saiyan at the cap of base form to dodge blasts fired by a full power super-saiyan, I would expect something similar to apply.

And I'm fine with that, I'm just saying that if an ability enables you to move out of the way of an attack that moves vastly faster than your body, you must necessarily be able to start moving before it does.
 
Would anyone here know how to check for psychic power?
This... is helpful, and troubling in universe.
The detection potential wouldn't be any higher, but everyone would be stronger functionally. Yay!
Does Kakara know enough to tell if it is something similar to the Crane schools tricks that let Tien hit so ridiculously far above his weight class?
Also, are there any notable techniques that were invented after DB canon from people not of the cast of AtE?
 
Simon_Jester said:
I would nonetheless be curious to know those reasons, if at any point you are inclined to share them.
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Go ahead and PM me sometime.
Jirachi47 said:
Would anyone here know how to check for psychic power?
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Exiles: What's that?
Jirachi47 said:
Does Kakara know enough to tell if it is something similar to the Crane schools tricks that let Tien hit so ridiculously far above his weight class?
Also, are there any notable techniques that were invented after DB canon from people not of the cast of AtE?
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She uses those herself, and she's pretty sure this wasn't that. No life force burning that she could tell; no pain after the fact. Plenty of fatigue, sure, but no obvious pain.

None that survived the histories.
 
Aranfan said:
Cynthia: *sigh* Yes.

So what you're saying is that, other than the historians, Psychic power isn't even on the Exile radar as a path to power.
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Not even the historians. Nobody remembers that about Chiaotzu. After all...telepathy? Ki does that. Telekinesis? Everybody learns how to at least push something. Psychic energy blasts? Ki blasts. Obviously.

At one point somebody forgot to mention that Chiaotzu was psychic. And the people to whom that wasn't mentioned went on to write the histories. And then it was forgotten forever. Much like the Spirit Bomb.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
Not even the historians. Nobody remembers that about Chiaotzu. After all...telepathy? Ki does that. Telekinesis? Everybody learns how to at least push something. Psychic energy blasts? Ki blasts. Obviously.

At one point somebody forgot to mention that Chiaotzu was psychic. And the people to whom that wasn't mentioned went on to write the histories. And then it was forgotten forever. Much like the Spirit Bomb.
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And I assume General Blue was also forgotten?
 
PoptartProdigy said:
Not even the historians. Nobody remembers that about Chiaotzu. After all...telepathy? Ki does that. Telekinesis? Everybody learns how to at least push something. Psychic energy blasts? Ki blasts. Obviously.

At one point somebody forgot to mention that Chiaotzu was psychic. And the people to whom that wasn't mentioned went on to write the histories. And then it was forgotten forever. Much like the Spirit Bomb.
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To be fair, it's not like anything became of Chiaotzu via those powers.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
Not even the historians. Nobody remembers that about Chiaotzu. After all...telepathy? Ki does that. Telekinesis? Everybody learns how to at least push something. Psychic energy blasts? Ki blasts. Obviously.

At one point somebody forgot to mention that Chiaotzu was psychic. And the people to whom that wasn't mentioned went on to write the histories. And then it was forgotten forever. Much like the Spirit Bomb.
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[X] Enthusiastically congratulate him on a good match and a cool trick and help him to his feet. Everybody look at the cheerful bubbly Scion. No need to think about what that trick was. Yes. You will lead him out of sight and ask what the fuck that was in private. This is not the place. If any people haven't realized the implications of this yet, you're not helping them do it.
-[X] Telepath dad co-ordinating to keep the crowd from jumping to many unpleasant conclusions and ensure that the family doesn't panic while you figure out tabe.
 
[X] Enthusiastically congratulate him on a good match and a cool trick and help him to his feet. Everybody look at the cheerful bubbly Scion. No need to think about what that trick was. Yes. You will lead him out of sight and ask what the fuck that was in private. This is not the place. If any people haven't realized the implications of this yet, you're not helping them do it.
-[X] Telepath dad co-ordinating to keep the crowd from jumping to many unpleasant conclusions and ensure that the family doesn't panic while you figure out tabe.
 
[X] Enthusiastically congratulate him on a good match and a cool trick and help him to his feet. Everybody look at the cheerful bubbly Scion. No need to think about what that trick was. Yes. You will lead him out of sight and ask what the fuck that was in private. This is not the place. If any people haven't realized the implications of this yet, you're not helping them do it.
 
[X] Enthusiastically congratulate him on a good match and a cool trick and help him to his feet. Everybody look at the cheerful bubbly Scion. No need to think about what that trick was. Yes. You will lead him out of sight and ask what the fuck that was in private. This is not the place. If any people haven't realized the implications of this yet, you're not helping them do it.
 
[X] Enthusiastically congratulate him on a good match and a cool trick and help him to his feet. Everybody look at the cheerful bubbly Scion. No need to think about what that trick was. Yes. You will lead him out of sight and ask what the fuck that was in private. This is not the place. If any people haven't realized the implications of this yet, you're not helping them do it.
-[X] Telepath dad co-ordinating to keep the crowd from jumping to many unpleasant conclusions and ensure that the family doesn't panic while you figure out tabe.
 
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