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Odd assumption to make :)
She is not purely 100% good and utterly free of evil. She has at least a tiny sliver of it in her soul.

Well the spirit bomb would do more to add to our reputation.
This is in no way a good reason to do it. Evil Containment Wave will have a higher chance of defeating the dragon and unlike the Spirit Bomb has a good chance of defeating it non-lethally. Both of those things are much more important by far than improving our reputation.
 
She is not purely 100% good and utterly free of evil. She has at least a tiny sliver of it in her soul.


This is in no way a good reason to do it. Evil Containment Wave will have a higher chance of defeating the dragon and unlike the Spirit Bomb has a good chance of defeating it non-lethally. Both of those things are much more important by far than improving our reputation.
Goku is a dubious example of pure good. Also it makes the most sense to do both evil containment wave and spirit bomb. It allows redundancy.
 
She is not purely 100% good and utterly free of evil. She has at least a tiny sliver of it in her soul.
Counterpoint: Son Goku.
In-universe he is pure good
...Excuse me, what
Evil Containment Wave will have a higher chance of defeating the dragon
Again, odd assumption.

What makes you think it wouldn't break out once we shove it in the container?
 
Why does nobody want a kaiju rumble? That's what everyone here wants to see! That's how Kakara made her legend! What's the appeal of just limply getting her butt whooped by a random nobody in a lame anticlimax?
No one's at the tournament for it, that's not the purpose of the tournament. We can hold another one if needed!
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Evil containment wave was used when power levels were less than 300 and never used since. In fact, it didn't work back then. Also the problem of having to sacrifice your life to use it.

Ki healing is not needed when we have magic beans for this fight.
It was never used since because Toriyama forgot about it, not because it wouldn't have been useful. The Evil Containment Wave did work back then. It worked on King Piccolo, it would've worked on King Piccolo again had Roshi not missed, and it didn't work on Piccolo because he developed a technique specifically meant to defeat it. Unless this dragon has spent the time coming up with a way to defeat a technique it doesn't even know exists, it will work on it.

The Evil Containment Wave is not inherently deadly. It killed its users because the technique took up a lot more ki than they had. Kami, who had much more ki than Roshi or Mutaito, could've used the technique just fine and even used it specifically because it would let him defeat Piccolo without killing himself. It failed because, again, Piccolo developed a technique specifically made to reverse the Evil Containment Wave.
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Actually, the Mafuba has been used multiple times since then. I count 5 times. There's actually a few problems with the technique that has been revealed. Also, the amount of power used is apparently dependent on the strength of the being that is being sealed.
Also, and this is the big one, the Mafuba is a magic technique.
She is not purely 100% good and utterly free of evil. She has at least a tiny sliver of it in her soul.
Fairly sure you don't get to be the judge of that.
0% Evil =/= 100% Good.
 
She is not purely 100% good and utterly free of evil. She has at least a tiny sliver of it in her soul.
Dudee. Not cool. Lailoken has been pretty pro-mercy lately, there is no need to call him names.

Again, odd assumption.

What makes you think it wouldn't break out once we shove it in the container?
Nobody has so far. Frankly, I am more worried about how we would close the container with humongeous monkey fingers but that is what multiform is for.

This is in no way a good reason to do it. Evil Containment Wave will have a higher chance of defeating the dragon and unlike the Spirit Bomb has a good chance of defeating it non-lethally. Both of those things are much more important by far than improving our reputation.
...why do we want to beat the dragon non-lethaly? I mean, it would be good practice for later enemies but it sounds like begging for trouble later on.

Though since Goku counts as pure hearted and so did gohan since he could still ride kinton and so did Chichi, why wouldn't Kakara fit the criteria?

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Also, and this is the big one, the Mafuba is a magic technique.
Unless you are saying that Tien, Goku and Mirai Trunks were secretly sorcerers, no it isn't. The seal maybe but both Tien and Roshi managed to copy it from someome else and they never showed anything else that could be considered magic.
 
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Only among the fanbase. In-universe he is pure good and arguing that point is pointless.
Among the fanbase who listen to Akira Toriyama, perhaps. According to Toriyama, Goku is not supposed to be an example of a righteous hero. He fights because he likes to fight, and secondarily because it helps people. According to Toriyama, Goku acting as a righteous hero is down to the English dubs changing his dialogue to be more in line with that characterization, which Toriyama did not appreciate. You can see this if you contrast the Japanese and English dubs. Especially in light of certain plot point that have arisen in Dragon Ball Super, I cleave to that characterization. I cannot imagine how the English dubbers are going to preserve, "Goku the righteous hero," with the latest arc's dub.

That said, even in the English dub, Goku has his bad moments. "No, Krillin, I get that Vegeta's evil and that by asking you to spare him I'm endangering every living soul on Earth but dat power, yo."

As a result, I imagine that the, "pure heart," required for the use or deflection of the Spirit Bomb is the same, "pure heart," that allowed Android Saga Vegeta to become a Super Saiyan. Pure, not good. Purity of purpose/composition, to be specific.
 
Aw, crapbaskets. 1.5 billion is the limit because that's where it starts bring detectable in the outer ring of dead planets where some random trader might be taking a shortcut.

-or, an invasion fleet might be traveling through.
 
As a result, I imagine that the, "pure heart," required for the use or deflection of the Spirit Bomb is the same, "pure heart," that allowed Android Saga Vegeta to become a Super Saiyan. Pure, not good. Purity of purpose/composition, to be specific.
In other words we could not have figured it out well we were troubled or reflective. In fact Dad's Atoner trait might be getting in the way of him managing the spirit bomb.
 
As a result, I imagine that the, "pure heart," required for the use or deflection of the Spirit Bomb is the same, "pure heart," that allowed Android Saga Vegeta to become a Super Saiyan. Pure, not good. Purity of purpose/composition, to be specific.
Gohan bounced it off because he was pure and didn't have any evil within him. Kid Buu and Frieza were pure evil and did not bounce it off. You do actually need to be pure good for that technique. Simply being pure something is insufficient, else those two could've bounced the technique off like Gohan did.
 
Gohan bounced it off because he was pure and didn't have any evil within him. Kid Buu and Frieza were pure evil and did not bounce it off. You do actually need to be pure good for that technique. Simply being pure something is insufficient, else those two could've bounced the technique off like Gohan did.
I don't know if kid Buu or Frieza were pure evil. I mean if they were 99% evil would we be able to tell?
 
Gohan bounced it off because he was pure and didn't have any evil within him. Kid Buu and Frieza were pure evil and did not bounce it off. You do actually need to be pure good for that technique. Simply being pure something is insufficient, else those two could've bounced the technique off like Gohan did.
Perhaps pure good is required for bouncing, but since Goku can use it, it plainly does not require that you be pure good to form it.
 
No it isn't. Mutaito, Roshi, and Tien were all non-magic users and they used it just fine.
:Citation Needed:, either for it being magical or for the people who have used it having elsewhere shown any ability to use magic whatsoever.
Naturally, including Trunks if you count Super
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It has been used by Roshi, Tien, Goku and future Trunks.

Are you saying they all are magic users? Also where are you getting that it is a magic technique?
Daizenshuu 7 as I remember it being called a magic technique, which is backed up by the wiki, and the nature of the technique fits more with what we've seen of magic then Ki.

I could be incorrect though, yes.
Gohan bounced it off because he was pure and didn't have any evil within him. Kid Buu and Frieza were pure evil and did not bounce it off. You do actually need to be pure good for that technique. Simply being pure something is insufficient, else those two could've bounced the technique off like Gohan did.
Actually, as revealed in supplementary media, someone who is "pure evil" can use the technique, in which case it can't hurt those who are similarly "pure evil". So it's more along the lines of "can't hurt someone of the same alignment", to use D&D terms.
 
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I wish we had a flying nimbus to measure things with.

I figure that the pure thing means enlightened, untroubled or purity of purpose rather than any sort of objective alignment.
 
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