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Incidentally, I believe I remember @PoptartProdigy mentioning that there either were only four people on Garenhuld with Elite+, or that they'd only statted up 4. We've now met three: Berra, Kala and Papata. Wonder who the fourth is?

I'd bet Dandeer has magic on that level. The Seal is an amazing work of magic, and she was already known as highly skilled. She definitely felt the need to do something extraordinary.

This tells me that Dandoleer (the Senzu sorcerer) might hit it soon, with his Seal-breaking-protecting fuckery.
 
Compliant Omake: Frustration
Frustration​

The time is coming soon.

The day that your people will face your greatest opponent since the Enemy himself. This is an enemy that you know surpasses you, without any doubt. Because you have Seen it.

Four Golden Oozaru. that's what you used to face it. And that still wasn't enough. What else could you do?

Your skill isn't enough. Your body isn't enough. You need so much more.

And so, you sit in a Sealed chamber that will hide your power, and then let it go free. You can feel the rush of unrestrained power, and you let it blossom to your full base might.

Right now, you were beyond every living saiyin even if you weren't wielding your full potential. Yet, you knew that this wasn't enough. This wasn't the Scouts, who you could so easily talk down and defeat. This wasn't the Faith, who regarded you as a demigod. This wasn't the nuclear bombs, which only needed you to find them.

This wasn't even your father, who you knew would still protect your people in the end.

This was so much more, and what you had simply wasn't enough. You couldn't lose. You risked something more than your friends and family. You risked your people.

You felt a weight settle on your shoulders. A weight that you hadn't realized existed. The weight you needed to shoulder for your ideals, to protect all that you cared for.

You took in a deep breath, and let loose the false moon. You looked at it, and took it in.

And you grew as your power doubled. And then you stood as a Great Ape. The world was so slow. Seconds weren't worth counting. You could keep up with units smaller and smaller then that with ease.

Not enough.

You roared as your aura flashed across the entire area.

And the world turned Gold.

With pure will, you drew forth from the well of power within you. As much as you dared. Time slowed even more, and your mind raced ever faster. This was your greatest achievement. The Golden Oozaru.

But still, even as you came close to straining the wards you wondered if this was enough. Your mind raced with your power, even as your body slowed with the transformation. Would this be enough, you wondered? Would this power be enough to aid you?

Perhaps it was enough, but you could not chance that.

Even with this, you couldn't face your foe.

Even with this, you weren't ready.

Grandpa, Grandma and dad were on your level, and you knew that in skill they certainly surpassed you. You should've been stronger.

You screamed in frustration.

You let it all out.

Jaffur was right.

And honestly you didn't know if this was going to be enough.

The weight of the world was on your shoulders, and you didn't know if you were enough.

You laughed. Was this how all the Z-fighters felt?
 
*pokes head up*

*silence*

Vote's open, you know.

*vanishes*

Frustration​

The time is coming soon.

The day that your people will face your greatest opponent since the Enemy himself. This is an enemy that you know surpasses you, without any doubt. Because you have Seen it.

Four Golden Oozaru. that's what you used to face it. And that still wasn't enough. What else could you do?

Your skill isn't enough. Your body isn't enough. You need so much more.

And so, you sit in a Sealed chamber that will hide your power, and then let it go free. You can feel the rush of unrestrained power, and you let it blossom to your full base might.

Right now, you were beyond every living saiyin even if you weren't wielding your full potential. Yet, you knew that this wasn't enough. This wasn't the Scouts, who you could so easily talk down and defeat. This wasn't the Faith, who regarded you as a demigod. This wasn't the nuclear bombs, which only needed you to find them.

This wasn't even your father, who you knew would still protect your people in the end.

This was so much more, and what you had simply wasn't enough. You couldn't lose. You risked something more than your friends and family. You risked your people.

You felt a weight settle on your shoulders. A weight that you hadn't realized existed. The weight you needed to shoulder for your ideals, to protect all that you cared for.

You took in a deep breath, and let loose the false moon. You looked at it, and took it in.

And you grew as your power doubled. And then you stood as a Great Ape. The world was so slow. Seconds weren't worth counting. You could keep up with units smaller and smaller then that with ease.

Not enough.

You roared as your aura flashed across the entire area.

And the world turned Gold.

With pure will, you drew forth from the well of power within you. As much as you dared. Time slowed even more, and your mind raced ever faster. This was your greatest achievement. The Golden Oozaru.

But still, even as you came close to straining the wards you wondered if this was enough. Your mind raced with your power, even as your body slowed with the transformation. Would this be enough, you wondered? Would this power be enough to aid you?

Perhaps it was enough, but you could not chance that.

Even with this, you couldn't face your foe.

Even with this, you weren't ready.

Grandpa, Grandma and dad were on your level, and you knew that in skill they certainly surpassed you. You should've been stronger.

You screamed in frustration.

You let it all out.

Jaffur was right.

And honestly you didn't know if this was going to be enough.

The weight of the world was on your shoulders, and you didn't know if you were enough.

You laughed. Was this how all the Z-fighters felt?
Ooh, shiny.

I'm not sure how to classify this just yet. Poke me tomorrow and I'll have my ruling.
 
[X] Plan Monado V1
-[X] The Sealing.
--[X] No comment. (In and of itself an implied comment, given the official story and Dandeer's now-public hatred for you.)
-[X] Your Sight.
--[X] Publicize.
-[X] Invasion.
--[X] Broad comments on what you know to be coming.
-[X] Dragon.
--[X] You and Dad are not making the dragon public knowledge in a live interview. It can wait for the press release.
-[X] Personal life.
--[X] Acknowledge relative lack of saiyan focus as growth area.
-[X] Relationship with Lady Vegeta.
--[X] No comment. (Again, itself an implied comment given the obvious animosity.)

It's time

to Imply Implications
 
1. Serious Scion - we keep our responses very straightforward and to the point, we respond with all the Maturity we have, and we simply 'No comment' on things which we don't want to answer.
We aren't going to win any battles here, but sometimes losing a battle to win the war isn't a bad choice. If we make a few sacrifices here, we can play off that into options 2 and 4, with the excuse of nerves and such. She won't really buy it, but it'd be poor form to call out a Scion on national TV, and most others watching probably won't notice. It'll make us seem more approachable, less a distant god-celebrity.
2. Friendly Scion - we do our best to appear open and honest, living down to our age. Talk about our family and friends, talk about how much we love to fly, talk about how exciting it is to watch humanity stumble, blinking, into the light of ki.
If we play into this too much, it'll give Fren a lot of room to pick at details we don't necessarily want picked at, but won't really be able to avoid. But we can use the play from occasional serious 'practiced' responses (Which, again, we'll likely lose) to wiggle out of any dangerous position this puts us in.

3. Ka-me-ha-me-ha! This interview is over, and so is Fren.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
I'm... usually... not one of them. There is a time and a place for it, but this is not yet that time.

4. The Chatterbox - If your opponent never gets to shoot, they can't win a gunfight. Don't stop talking. Meander. Make random jumps in conversation, only to bring them back around to the topic after people have forgotten the basic thrust of the question. Play up Oddball as much as practical, and keep Fren focused on trying to steer a careening ship in a typhoon.

Social confusion-fu isn't really in our repertoire. But if we use 1 and 2 with just a smidge of this, play off the varying tone as nerves, and generally pay very close attention, we can make it through this with our dignity intact and most of our secrets, well, still secret. And maybe, if we're really lucky, we'll bump up into expert ourselves.
 
Been thinking of a few categories that could come up:
Romantic Life
The Faith/Cult
Personal Combat Ability
Thoughts on the partial breach of the Masquerade

And that's as much thought as I can spare, as it's currently 3:11 in the morning.
 
If only we had a certain ritual on hand.
Gathering a few purehearted saiyans shouldn't be impossible, with there being so many.

Plus, it'd make us invisible to any non-divine ki sensors.
 
If only we had a certain ritual on hand.
Gathering a few purehearted saiyans shouldn't be impossible, with there being so many.

Plus, it'd make us invisible to any non-divine ki sensors.

But at the same time it makes you highly visible to divinve sensors. I'm pretty sure The Enemy can do that.


Been thinking of a few categories that could come up:
Romantic Life
The Faith/Cult
Personal Combat Ability
Thoughts on the partial breach of the Masquerade

And that's as much thought as I can spare, as it's currently 3:11 in the morning.

We IC remember our visits to Gohan right? We might be able to use get everyone talking about that. It's shocking enough information that it could help distract from topics we really don't want to go into detail on like the Sealing and our conflict with Dandeer (which is because of the Sealing).
 
[X] The Sealing.
-[x] Official story.
[X] Your Sight.
-[X] Publicize.
[X] Invasion.
-[ ] Can't comment.
-[X] War stories only. Saiyan love war stories.
[X] Dragon.
-[X] You and Dad are not making the dragon public knowledge in a live interview. It can wait for the press release.
[X] Personal life.
-[x] Justify human focus.
-[x] Acknowledge relative lack of saiyan focus as growth area.
-[x] Romantic Life
-[x] Lack of interaction with the Faith/Cult
[X] Relationship with Lady Vegeta.
-[x] You don't get along very well.
[X] Thoughts on the partial breach of the Masquerade
 
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[ ] The Sealing.

Not revealing what happened, we don't want that much unrest at this point. Not the oficial story because we don't want to lie either. Other tan that...

-[ ] Proclaim opposition.

This has the risk of people asking us why we did what it is said we did in the oficial story.

-[ ] No comment. (In and of itself an implied comment, given the official story and Dandeer's now-public hatred for you.)

This one... what comment does it imply?

[ ] Your Sight.
-[] Keep it secret.

We don't want Dandeer to know about it, since sorcerers can actually interfere.

[] Invasion.
-[ ] Broad comments on what you know to be coming.
-[] All known intelligence is on the table for the asking.

This is something people want to know about and the more they ask about this, the less time they have to ask about other things. Is there anything here we want to hide? I think we should give everything. If we give scoop to Fren, she should be more ameenable to us.

[] Personal life.
-[ ] Justify human focus.
-[ ] Acknowledge relative lack of saiyan focus as growth área.

This one depends. How do we justify that we focus on the human side of our personal life than the saiyan side? I think something about this should be commented on, to give more meat to the interview

[ ] Relationship with Lady Vegeta.
-[ ] You don't get along very well.

Understatement of the century. Maybe we should add something about how we have different views about what is best. Or, if we want to jab at her, make a comment about what she said when we stopped the nukes. Actually, what are the topics we can pubicly disagree with with her with the least backlash to us?

Write in topics:

[] The Faith
-[] Maintain stance proclaimed in the council.

They might ask about our intervention in the Garenhuld council. We should focus that on the fact they matter because they are people and that our role was of mediator. No comment about whether we believe or not.

[] Jaron

They might ask about the fight he fought alongside us (Fren expressed he would have liked to see that) so reinforce the fact that we didn't train him before and that we are doing it now? It is part of his heritage and even humans will learn about ki in the coming years. I don't know if it would be ok to comment on the fact that he thinks those with power (him) should defend those without.
 
[x] The Sealing.
-[x] Tell what really happened that day.

She already hates us.

[X] Your Sight.
-[x] Publicize.

I can't see any advantage to keeping it secret.

[X] Invasion.
-[x] All known intelligence is on the table for the asking.
[X] Dragon.
-[X] You and Dad are not making the dragon public knowledge in a live interview. It can wait for the press release.
[X] Personal life.
-[x] Acknowledge relative lack of saiyan focus as growth area.
[X] Relationship with Lady Vegeta.
-[x] Full disclosure (You hate her, you hate her very much, and you're explaining exactly why).
 
[x] The Sealing.
-[x] Tell what really happened that day.
[X] Your Sight.
-[x] Publicize.
[X] Invasion.
-[x] All known intelligence is on the table for the asking.
[X] Dragon.
-[X] You and Dad are not making the dragon public knowledge in a live interview. It can wait for the press release.
[X] Personal life.
-[x] Acknowledge relative lack of saiyan focus as growth area.
[X] Relationship with Lady Vegeta.
-[x] You don't get along very well.
 
Social confusion-fu isn't really in our repertoire. But if we use 1 and 2 with just a smidge of this, play off the varying tone as nerves, and generally pay very close attention, we can make it through this with our dignity intact and most of our secrets, well, still secret. And maybe, if we're really lucky, we'll bump up into expert ourselves.
On the contrary, Oddball means that Kakara has special benefits for confusion-fu. She's not a super-duper master of the art, but she has it.

[] The Sealing.
-[] Tell what really happened that day.

She already hates us.
Berra's going to go "DAMMIT KAKARA," and it's quite possible the conspiracy will too. Openly spilling the beans about the Sealing

Furthermore, Fren will be asking us questions about the Sealing directly, which increases the risk we'll have to lie to avoid revealing something. Like, she might ask "so, have you been doing anything about this strong opposition of yours, then?" At which point it's our Deceit against one of her masterclass social skills...

[] Your Sight.
-[] Publicize.

I can't see any advantage to keeping it secret.
Dandeer may well be able to trap our wandering spirit if we go on seer vision quests, because sorcerors can do that. Furthermore, if we keep it secret it's an advantage Dandeer doesn't know we have, which is really helpful. For instance, we could use past-sight to find out what actually happened on the night of the Sealing.

[] Invasion.
-[] All known intelligence is on the table for the asking.
I support this, among other things because it is a relatively 'safe' topic for conversation.


[] Relationship with Lady Vegeta.
-[] Full disclosure (You hate her, you hate her very much, and you're explaining exactly why).
Big problem; this leads itself to two questions for Fren:

1) "So, does this mean there is a rift between Lady Vegeta and House Goku?"
2) "So, you despise Lady Vegeta for Sealing her Lord and Scion away like this. Have you thought about doing anything about it?"
 
[X] Plan Tweenhard
-[X] Do not hesitate to use Oddball to cause changes in topic or focus, but don't overdo it.
-[X] The Sealing.
--[X] Official story.
---[X] Some things are unpleasant but necessary.
----[X] You hope to spar with Jaffur again someday. That was the best fight of your life.
-[X] Your Sight.
--[X] Keep it secret.
-[X] Invasion.
--[X] War stories only. Saiyan love war stories.
---[X] If pressed for details, we can't comment on specifics, but have great confidence in our Father, ourselves, and the former Lords and Ladies to handle the matter effectively.
-[X] Dragon.
--[X] You and Dad are not making the dragon public knowledge in a live interview. It can wait for the press release.
-[X] Personal life.
--[X] Justify human focus.
--[X] Acknowledge relative lack of saiyan focus as growth area.
--[X] Discuss the benefits of teaching ki to humans, and advertise the blog we are running/putting together.
--[X] Talk about our friends and the meaningful interactions Saiyans can have with humans.
---[X] Tell lots of stories about the Misfits and how much fun you all have together, in ways Saiyans can relate to (like their joy in learning mundane martial arts).
-[X] Relationship with Lady Vegeta.
--[X] She doesn't like me very much, at all.
---[X] I don't think she likes me training Jaron.
----[X] Maybe she thinks the ki training might impact his Masque?
-----[X] I'm sure if that was a risk, though, she'd speak up about it.
---[X] I get along well with the rest of her family, though! Jaron and Mister Somerlad are really nice.
----[X] More stories about friends and school, starting Jaron-focused but quickly drifting.


Why are people wanting to put the Conspiracy and our Shade at risk?

Why aren't people thinking about ways to steer the conversation towards the innocuous? There's plenty of material around human ki users, and that doesn't risk secrets we aren't prepared to reveal.

In short, we're talking as little as practical about the Sealing and Dandeer, avoiding it like most tweens would avoid unpleasant topics.

I'm open to feedback on this, and will change the plan if it is lacking. The general thrust of it will not deviate from what I've indicated above: clam up about the stuff that risks the Conspiracy, don't reveal our Sight, and focus as much as practical on human-Saiyan interactions, how they've been, how they're changing, and where we want them to go.

Fren is fishing for a story here, and likely won't intentionally antagonize us, but definitely WILL pounce on anything we dangle by mistake.

Please, let's go this way.

@PoptartProdigy - I have tried to keep the above at a high level of detail, using sample statements to indicate general tone and direction. Is this plan ok by your guidelines for this vote?
 
[X] Plan Tweenhard
-[X] Do not hesitate to use Oddball to cause changes in topic or focus, but don't overdo it.
-[X] The Sealing.
--[X] Official story.
---[X] Some things are unpleasant but necessary.
----[X] You hope to spar with Jaffur again someday. That was the best fight of your life.
-[X] Your Sight.
--[X] Keep it secret.
-[X] Invasion.
--[X] War stories only. Saiyan love war stories.
---[X] If pressed for details, we can't comment on specifics, but have great confidence in our Father, ourselves, and the former Lords and Ladies to handle the matter effectively.
-[X] Dragon.
--[X] You and Dad are not making the dragon public knowledge in a live interview. It can wait for the press release.
-[X] Personal life.
--[X] Justify human focus.
--[X] Acknowledge relative lack of saiyan focus as growth area.
--[X] Discuss the benefits of teaching ki to humans, and advertise the blog we are running/putting together.
--[X] Talk about our friends and the meaningful interactions Saiyans can have with humans.
---[X] Tell lots of stories about the Misfits and how much fun you all have together, in ways Saiyans can relate to (like their joy in learning mundane martial arts).
-[X] Relationship with Lady Vegeta.
--[X] She doesn't like me very much, at all.
---[X] I don't think she likes me training Jaron.
----[X] Maybe she thinks the ki training might impact his Masque?
-----[X] I'm sure if that was a risk, though, she'd speak up about it.
---[X] I get along well with the rest of her family, though! Jaron and Mister Somerlad are really nice.
----[X] More stories about friends and school, starting Jaron-focused but quickly drifting.

Good point
 
You do realize that will mean a deceit check?

It's pretty much inevitable that we'll have to make a Deceit check there. But this is something we are practiced at and have had to say many times.

We can also say something along the lines, "My Father said already: 'yadda yadda yadda' and that's all been public knowledge for ever." If we aren't actually lying, but simply saying what someone else has said, we're not really answering the question, but it's a fine enough distinction that most people won't notice. Probably won't take Deceit, or will give us a decent situation bonus.

The distractions will also help.

And nothing about the sub-votes on that is a lie: Some things ARE unpleasant but necessary. We DO hope to spar with Jaffur again. The most recent spar (or just 'that fight', meaning the one we're thinking about) was one of the most fun, since we could go all-out!

So we aren't being deceitful, we are just communicating!
 
It's pretty much inevitable that we'll have to make a Deceit check there. But this is something we are practiced at and have had to say many times.

We can also say something along the lines, "My Father said already: 'yadda yadda yadda' and that's all been public knowledge for ever." If we aren't actually lying, but simply saying what someone else has said, we're not really answering the question, but it's a fine enough distinction that most people won't notice. Probably won't take Deceit, or will give us a decent situation bonus.

The distractions will also help.

And nothing about the sub-votes on that is a lie: Some things ARE unpleasant but necessary. We DO hope to spar with Jaffur again. The most recent spar (or just 'that fight', meaning the one we're thinking about) was one of the most fun, since we could go all-out!

So we aren't being deceitful, we are just communicating!
That might work with a different interviewer. I think it would be better to do no comment. Also it is better not to be on record lying considering everything to going to come out into the open when we free Jaffur.
 
I like the basic idea but want to avoid a Deceit check. And I REALLY want to avoid having Kakara formally come out in defense of the Sealing, because the Vegetans (including Papata) are very much anti-Sealing.

[X] Plan Tweenhard II- Not Pro-Sealing
-[X] Do not hesitate to use Oddball to cause changes in topic or focus, but don't overdo it.
-[X] The Sealing.
--[X] No comment. (In and of itself an implied comment, given the official story and Dandeer's now-public hatred for you.)
-[X] Your Sight.
--[X] Keep it secret.
-[X] Invasion.
--[X] War stories only. Saiyan love war stories.
---[X] If pressed for details, we can't comment on specifics, but have great confidence in our Father, ourselves, and the former Lords and Ladies to handle the matter effectively.
-[X] Dragon.
--[X] You and Dad are not making the dragon public knowledge in a live interview. It can wait for the press release.
-[X] Personal life.
--[X] Justify human focus.
--[X] Acknowledge relative lack of saiyan focus as growth area.
--[X] Discuss the benefits of teaching ki to humans, and advertise the blog we are running/putting together.
--[X] Talk about our friends and the meaningful interactions Saiyans can have with humans.
---[X] Tell lots of stories about the Misfits and how much fun you all have together, in ways Saiyans can relate to (like their joy in learning mundane martial arts).
-[X] Relationship with Lady Vegeta.
--[X] She doesn't like me very much, at all.
---[X] I don't think she likes me training Jaron.
----[X] Maybe she thinks the ki training might impact his Masque?
-----[X] I'm sure if that was a risk, though, she'd speak up about it.
---[X] I get along well with the rest of her family, though! Jaron and Mister Somerlad are really nice.
----[X] More stories about friends and school, starting Jaron-focused but quickly drifting.
-[X] Jaron
--[X] Praise his courage and desire to protect people.
--[X] Decline to speculate on whether the Seal is slipping.
 
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