The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
You know that's from a different timeline.
Yes? And? They're still the same character 
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Yes? And? They're still the same character
Yeah, but in this timeline there's no guarantee that you get your OTP. 
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
If it would take Jaffur Mr. Combat prodigy 20- 40 years of deadicated training to fight the Enemy. Then we are so far away from being able to fight the Enemy that we might as well not even consider it in our fighting style.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Is that a love triangle or not?
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
- Location
- Bottom of the barrel
I could say so so many things right now, but that would rely on the RP and won't matter as much in a quest with so many voters.
Is that a love triangle or not?
If you factor in Kakara and Senzu, I think the technical term is, "Amorous Tesseract".
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
That's because he went at it the exact wrong way. If he'd done the right thing, he'd have managed to reach Enemy killing tier in five years...
Then again, he was heavily depressed and raising a son on his own, so he probably was a little distracted.
Then again, he was heavily depressed and raising a son on his own, so he probably was a little distracted.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Its knowledge is lost, and the reforming Kakara gets none of its share of her power level; it's as if she used it all, and must regenerate it from scratch.I can't remember (either that or I never knew to begin with
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Oh, so Perfect Multiform gets rid of that last downside?
Very nice. Can a multiform create a multiform (halving its power, naturally)?
Although it's not immediately obvious to us right now, as we have not yet researched Perfect Multiform, we might be able to just spam out PMs as they die. Not that that's exactly a very happy mindset to be in such that you would willingly do that, but.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I still think that people are putting way too much stock in "perfect" multiform. It was a passing phrase from a villain in a piece of filler which immediately got its ass kicked and was never used again. At best it's going to have serious downsides like dividing energy or durability if not power.
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Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Or it might be hella exhausting.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
- Location
- Bottom of the barrel
Or the sheer amount of time and effort it takes to learn it
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Don't think it would have been worth learning if it were not for the enforced power caps. Increasing our effective power level 3-4 fold might seem impressive. But remember Maya has been growing her power by about 10 times every year and we did the same when going super Saiyan (not sure about the exact numbers). Furthermore perfect Multiform is a mult year project.
So if it were not for the enforced power caps we would be much better off just powering up rather that figuring out perfect Multiform.
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- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Honestly, ki-enhanced senses seem to somehow cancel out such problems; otherwise, hearing would be entirely useless even at relatively low time compression and power levels.
Furthermore, we are very unlikely to encounter an enemy that actually poses us any meaningful problems, but doesn't have ki sense. It's hypothetically possible, but that doesn't make it likely.
Ah-HA. Now I understand. That might sort of work.
The obvious problem with this is that we don't have much evidence of ki blasts being able to maintain coherence over distances measured in light-years. The surrounding star systems (which I assume to mean those within, oh... ten light-years? More?) are described as 'dead.' Even if the ki blasts travel fast enough, there's no guarantee they won't just burst after traveling for light-years through deep space.
If you can hide your aura at 'half,' and bring your power from 'half' to 'full' nearly instantaneously, what's the application of this?
It might be difficult to figure out who knows the technique; if you're asking "does Kakara personally know if anyone she knows does this," the answer may turn out to be "she doesn't know." By nature it's a technique best used secretly since it involves subliminal messaging.
Neighboring planets in the same star system? If we haven't, Maya probably will sooner or later; she's got spacethusiasm as I recall. Though interplanetary trips might take days even at ki-user speeds, I suppose, so Maya may not have done it yet just because she can't be away from home that long. Or, come to think of it, because you can't keep an aura up in your sleep?
Sure. In fact, I encourage you all to build your entire fighting style around and stake the Enemy's defeat on mastering it.
I don't need to read RP spoilers to be pretty sure the Enemy doesn't rely entirely, or maybe even at all, on the use of ki power. And his ability to hack through multiple high-order super-saiyans in rapid succession and polish off a couple of literal gods suggests that he just miiiight have techniques that make ki power largely irrelevant against him.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Because it seems the obvious next step for improving ki control. Also a prerequisite to being able to hide your power level well powered up.
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
Try fighting at full power without leaking any Ki.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Baby steps.Try fighting at full power without leaking any Ki.
Depends on how focused you can make a focused ray.
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- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
To me it sounds like the kind of talent associated with Elite-level ki control: an achievable thing, but not a thing just anyone can reasonably aspire to. The answer is probably "wait a few character-defining moments, and maybe you can pick it up."
We also have indication from various comments in the thread that this is the same kind of superb ki control required to attain the Super-Saiyan Blue form- namely, to limit 'leakage' of power to the point where even divine ki can be handled with extreme precision and control.
1) To be clear, Perfect Multiform would enable us to create up to four full-power clones, correct? I mean, that's what we've been expecting it to do.
2) If so, what would happen if one of the clones died?
2a) Would Kakara be rendered powerless after the surviving clones re-coalesce? Roughly how long might it hypothetically take her to recover, if so?
2b) Or would the effect be so extreme that she would die?
3) Given the answer(s) to (2), what happens if multiple clones die?
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
SURPRISE, THE POST IS GOING IN THE TEXT BOX TONIGHT! HOLD ALL FURTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M NOT STOPPING FOR ANYBODY!
2) You have no idea; how would you?
2a) You have no idea; how would you?
2b) You have no idea; how would you?
3) You have no idea; how would you?
Did you mean to quote instead of spoiler there?
1) That is what you are researching, yes. If PM somehow isn't that, it doesn't matter, because you're searching for an effect, not a replication (this is me being nice, and not a stickler; in this case it doesn't matter, but it may well elsewhere).
2) You have no idea; how would you?
2a) You have no idea; how would you?
2b) You have no idea; how would you?
3) You have no idea; how would you?
PM as a lot of players are conceiving it is overpowered, and certainly something hundreds of thousands of saiyans with hundreds of years to work on it would have figured out if it were just, "There are now four of you, no downsides". Even Cell didn't use it after he stopped playing around, and there have been other geniuses since then. If anything, the power limits would incentivize its investigation.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
We have to master this.... Just imagine this combined with Spirit Bomb....
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
Yeah, but that's probably not going to happen! I mean, come on, what are the odds?
It'll be fine, it's just a little extremely finicky hazardous research done in the mindscape of a madwoman, based on a half-forgotten technique that never actually did work right. What could possibly go wrong?