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Dragon Ball: After the End

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Bakkasama said:
Bringing back spirit bomb in a planet with over a hundred thousand saiyans with power level in the millons would also be a way to have a "fuck everything in that general direction!" option a few orders of magnitude above Kikoho. So it would probably impress Vegetans too.
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Screw that. Bring back the ritual to create SSJ Gods.

BAM! Goddess Kakara, God Berra, ready for duty.
 
Quest said:
So me and @fictionfan were talking about the book idea in PM since I had time, I cooked this intro post/chapter up myself. Note that some parts of it are taken from the dbz wiki on ki. Thoughts?​
Groundbreaking Science

Introduction:
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This blog is an introduction to the teachings of ki and the many advantages and philosophies there-in. Yes, ki. This is the energy that is often introduced as the source of supernatural power for many martial art philosophies and in is very common in some forms of modern fiction. Today? I'm here to tell you that it is all true.

I'm sure you've seen the videos and heard the rumors. Superhuman people who can fly and fight aliens in a school. You've heard the announcements and I'm sure you are nervous about what this new thing is. We are Garenhulders after all, and we understand the dangers that any new technology can bring.

But this is not new. This is a way of life and philosophy practiced by families for generations. This is not something new or other. Ki is life itself, and the birthright of any human. You just need to reach out and take control.

Ki-Users are present all around you and they aren't your enemies. They are your friends, and classmates. Your colleagues and lovers. Ki has improved all our lives and now that ki is out in the open, I am here to share with you it's secrets and history.

An important aim of the blog is to make the key concepts and philosophies that underlie the teaching of ki accessible to all readers as well as to suggest ways in which these philosophies might be dealt with in our modern world. While the blog is informed by research into the nature and teaching of many traditional families, it is planned and presented in a way that is directly accessible to our common man.

The blog will also provide an overview of issues involved in the teaching of ki itself and in the reason for the secrecy of ki and it's training. They will be discussed and presented to you beside numerous uses and techniques for potential users and perhaps even teachers to draw on in their learning of this ancient art.

We will also discuss the implications for the topic being discussed and provides tasks for readers to carry out that encourage them to reflect on their own beliefs and practices in relation to teaching the use of ki. We will also include suggestions for the practical application for this art in daily life of the people.

While many of the sources of this information will be kept secret in order to protect the identity of providers, we encourage the reader to learn of ki themselves to understand it before judging the people who use it and the art itself and we encourage the traditionalists of this art to be willing to come forth and converse with your friends and neighbors, so that we can all move forwards for a Better Life Through Ki.

What is Ki?​

Ki can be called the "latent energy" of the body, or in other words the "life force" found in every living being. Ki is not a simple singular force but made up of multiple components, including: Genki (元気; lit. "Energy"), Yūki (勇気; lit. "Courage") and Shōki(正気; lit. "Mind"). Ki can also be "positive" or "negative" depending on the user.

This force is a tangible energy inside every living being, with its major focus being in the center of the body. By drawing it out, an individual is able to manipulate it and use it outside the body. It is the source for many, many incredible abilities and limits of it's potential are only in the limits of one's imagination.

You must have heard of the woman who could lift a car to save her child, or the strength that someone desperate can have. All of these are unconscious and temporary uses of this miraculous energy. Ki can be said to be the formalized development of these abilities.

Initially, it was designed for use in combat due to the requirements of a certain level of focus, strength of body and strength of mind that were only present in advanced practitioners of martial arts. Ki could be used for many different techniques, and many families guard those secrets jealously.

Because there are physical limits to the strength of the body itself, it was necessary to increase one's ki to overcome this barrier and become stronger. Usually, the more concentrated the masses are, the more time the user requires to draw it out. In olden times, when fighters gather ki, they were able to gain enhanced strength, speed, endurance, and can increase the power of their attacks as well. Normally, the more the ki is increased, the harder it is to control, so ki control is also important.

Now, most of these families still practice martial arts to keep with tradition and instead the use of ki is used to enhance one's quality of life and in ways that are almost like magic. Advanced applications of ki include telekinesis, energy projection, the ability to sense the life-force of others, and even limited healing of the body.

Even if you never learn any of these skills, simply the requirements for ki mean that training for it's use also trains the user's mind, spirit and body. You are hardier and much stronger than the common man. To live a life of ki is to live a healthier life.

In fact, many martial artists who aren't inducted into the use of ki but are still some of the best, are often known to access ki subconsciously. Many of you will also grasp it's use rather quickly. If you want to try it, or think that you have the capability, we suggest you try the exercise given at the end of this chapter and tell us your experiences.

Even if you don't grasp it, it will help you when we come to the later chapters and began real instruction into the basics of ki and the many philosophies concerning it's use. We will also covering many simple tricks and exercises that can be used to enhance the quality of one's life and training.
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Ooh! Compliant for now, with the bonus going towards the action to which this is in service, and I will upgrade it to canon should the vote go that way when the time comes.
Gore17 said:
I assume you mean "if executed properly"?
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Such is the syntactical implication, yes. :p
Quest said:
Not a fan? I will say that one of the ways to make sure that it is executed properly, is by pitching it to our parents. Our dad is a Lord and our mother is a highly talented teacher, and using both their skill-sets and experiences we can use to minimize disaster.

Plus, this plan would be a high-level priority for the exiles so there is a chance we may gain Seer Interrupts in case of problems.

Speaking of which, some questions about our Sight : @PoptartProdigy once we get some skill on Sight, can we spend an action on using our sight to support other actions? Such as minimizing failure or gaining a bonus to techniques/training by observing notable uses of such in the past? For example, training Tien Style by actually watching Tien fight.

Can it be ever used to pirate techniques? Like Spirit Bomb by watching Goku use it or learn it, or any of Gotenk's techniques, which seem to suit us. As an aside, bringing back the spirit bomb would do wonders for our reputation with the Gokun.
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Seer abilities don't directly impact actions like that. You get visions upon which you can act, and the further you go, the more reliable they are and the more you can do them. Advanced levels offer ancillary benefits; presentsight apes the byakugan without a blind spot, pastsight lets you check something that just happened to make absolutely sure you saw it correctly, and futuresight basically gives you combat precognition. These are just examples, of course. Once you get into the higher levels, it lets you See on a conceptual level (in which Sensei will instruct you when the time comes).

Those are potential applications of pastsight, yes. You won't get much out of Style training, though; remember that the modern-day styles are attempts to derive the old forms through stories of their effects.
 
Gore17 said:
I assume you mean "if executed properly"?
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*shrugs* Either is gramatically accurate.


It sounds like an effective and well-thought-out plan, executed properly.

The comma adds a pause here which when spoken aloud puts a minor emphasis on the word executed which (I don't know the proper terminology) but it alters the meaning of the sentence to effectively - Executed properly it sounds like an effective and well-thought-out plan.

It sounds like an effective and well-thought-out plan if executed properly.

Meanwhile this one lacks the comma and instead has if, which basically makes the sentence have the same meaning.
 
...Okay, I definitely posted this. That makes 2 posts I wrote and posted unsuccessfully. I'm not sure if that's SV glitching on me, or I need to check my internet.
Quest said:
Not a fan?
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I was confused about the wording.

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Lunaryon said:
*shrugs* Either is gramatically accurate.
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True, but there's two other ways to interpret it:
1) "It sounds like an effective and well-thought-out plan with an excellent method of implementation."
2) The above, but sarcastically.

My brain defaults to the sarcastic option. :p
 
....I just noticed something.
PoptartProdigy said:
Something...happens.

A pulse of strange and profoundly upsetting power pours out from the room. The world seems to twist on itself. You reel, forcing yourself to stay still, quiet, and settled.

"Sorcery," says Dad. "Dandeer, you used sorcery on him? Do you realize what they'll do to you?"

"Nothing. He's not dead."
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What spell did she cast? And why?
 
Gore17 said:
No, its been raised before IIRC.

...Wait, have you not been considering the possibility of her mentally-affecting Berra?
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I thought she might have nudged him along the way she wanted things to go at the time, but I confess I hadn't considered the possibility of her continuing to do so after the event - I figured Berra's traits and rationalisations would be enough.
 
I figured that Dad spends enough time around sourcers that someone would have noticed if he was under the influence.
 
Anyway, something else to investigate.

If she did influence Berra? That's both an opportunity(absolutely guilty of treason, everyone will want her dead), and a problem, because what else has she done/put in his or others heads?
 
Gore17 said:
What spell did she cast? And why?
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Gore17 said:
...Wait, have you not been considering the possibility of her mentally-affecting Berra?
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Deathbybunnies said:
I thought she might have nudged him along the way she wanted things to go at the time, but I confess I hadn't considered the possibility of her continuing to do so after the event - I figured Berra's traits and rationalisations would be enough.
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Well, let's take what we know about her:

1. She's a mind mage, and one of only two mages on the Vegetan side of things, so she's most likely really powerful.
2. She's fucking insane.
3. She has things as she wants them now... but also wants to keep them this way.

If I had to guess? She implanted mental triggers for mind control.
Gore17 said:
Anyway, something else to investigate.

If she did influence Berra? That's both an opportunity(absolutely guilty of treason, everyone will want her dead), and a problem, because what else has she done/put in his or others heads?
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...I wish I could tell you.
 
Gore17 said:
Meh, more fun discovering it ourselves.

My worst case scenario is she's implanted commands in many of the strongest fighters, and if she goes down, they trigger and go murder-suicide on the population. Second worst is she's implanted commands in hundreds of children, and she'll hold them all hostage.
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No, worst case is her compromising our conspiracy, and when we move to activate it BAM!

We end up Sealed.
 
Mikeline said:
Not one of my brightest moments. Damn, I feel like a fool for not even considering it. There's a part of me that thought that she wouldn't stoop that low.
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*INARTICULATE RRRRAAAAAAGGGGGEEEEEEE*

Fucking unscrupulous mind mages. If there was ever a kind of magic that I hated more...

It would probably be Bureaucratic magic actually.
 
We need to get a magic lesson to learn what is and isn't possible. Also to help us teach Jaffur.
 
The Fourth Monado said:
May want to add everyone else in the check
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Right, we should get everyone involved in the conspiracy checked out if possible.

fictionfan said:
We need to get a magic lesson to learn what is and isn't possible. Also to help us teach Jaffur.
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We should add some magic lessons to our actions next year then.
Gore17 said:
Don't forget getting a second opinion. You never know, she might have gotten Dandelor previously.

Perhaps Jaffur?
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He IS perhaps the only person who can't be under some spell, since he technically already is.
 
Jaron was born from Jaffur and Dandeer during the sealing. Does that mean that Jaffur is a Dad as a result of Incest? Also if the Scion needs have a child before becoming the Lord does that mean he has done that?

Jaffur must have quite the oedipus complex what with wanting to kill his father and having a child with his mother.
 
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Mikeline said:
...she casted a spell on dad and no one noticed. Is that why he seemingly agrees with her on everything?
Or am I understanding this wrong?
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Okay, fun as it is to watch this circus: she cast a little bit of magic as a way of demonstrating what she did to Vegeta. Sort of like somebody saying, "You know how I handle problems like that," while hefting a gun.
fictionfan said:
Jaron was born from Jaffur and Dandeer during the sealing. Does that mean that Jaffur is a Dad as a result of Incest? Also if the Scion needs have a child before becoming the Lord does that mean he has done that?

Jaffur has quite the oedipus complex what with wanting to kill his father and having a child with his mother.
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He's more a clone than a child, in terms of metaphysics and philosophy.
 
Once more reason we need to kill Dandeer.

...

So I have an idea. It's not a nice idea, but it still is one. If she has hostages, we take one of our own. Delia (Jaffur's sister, Lady Bitch's daughter) would be a perfect candidate, since she puts her family over anything else.

Although, there's still the crackpot theory that someone mindfucked Dandeer to do this.

Edit: Ninja'd by poptart to stop the crazy train
 
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