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A Cell style, but wouldn't practitioners use the excuse of its creator's full name to call it the Perfect Style? ;)
*laughing* True. Honestly, there could be. If you write up an omake with the stats, I'll go ahead an canonize it if you let me check it for balance.
:oops: Now I'm embarrassed. Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed in it. Like, I've been imagining this entire history, from when they were a child and their planet was enslaved by the PTO, being forced to serve as part of it, rejoicing as it falls apart and becoming part of something better, enjoying the peace that the existence of Super Saiyans resulted in, despair as it all went to shit, and just this slow gradual slide down over centuries while all dreams of peace and mercy die, all feeding into each other to show how they got here, but I can't get it out. The words just don't come, and it's like trying shove a painting through the wet, dirty pipe that is my writing skills and ADHD, with all I end up with at the end is this ripped up sludge, and it's really frustrating and upsetting. :cry:
Hey, let all that sit aside. What you got out is the leader is a moment -- and an intense moment at that. You showed that moment well. Regardless of what else might be giving you trouble, what you got out works.
 
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:oops: Now I'm embarrassed. Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed in it. Like, I've been imagining this entire history, from when they were a child and their planet was enslaved by the PTO, being forced to serve as part of it, rejoicing as it falls apart and becoming part of something better, enjoying the peace that the existence of Super Saiyans resulted in, despair as it all went to shit, and just this slow gradual slide down over centuries while all dreams of peace and mercy die, all feeding into each other to show how they got here, but I can't get it out. The words just don't come, and it's like trying shove a painting through the wet, dirty pipe that is my writing skills and ADHD, with all I end up with at the end is this ripped up sludge, and it's really frustrating and upsetting. :cry:
I know how you feel, I keep trying to draw a picture of Princess Kakara floating at eye level with the Scout leader. It is so clear in my mind, but all my attempts come out as chicken scratchings.
 
Hey, let all that sit aside. What you got out is the leader is a moment -- and an intense moment at that. You showed that moment well. Regardless of what else might be giving you trouble, what you got out works.
*hugs* Thanks. And sorry for venting in your thread. :oops:

...Though that reward reminds me, should we spend a cookie on this? Lailoken put his in the community pool, so this is probably a good a time as any to spend it.
I know how you feel, I keep trying to draw a picture of Princess Kakara floating at eye level with the Scout leader. It is so clear in my mind, but all my attempts come out as chicken scratchings.
It sucks, doesn't it. :(
 
I know how you feel, I keep trying to draw a picture of Princess Kakara floating at eye level with the Scout leader. It is so clear in my mind, but all my attempts come out as chicken scratchings.
Hugs for everybody! *hug*
*hugs* Thanks. And sorry for venting in your thread. :oops:

...Though that reward reminds me, should we spend a cookie on this? Lailoken put his in the community pool, so this is probably a good a time as any to spend it.
Hey, don't worry about it. It's on-topic enough, and I don't mind being nice to people. :) *returns hug*

It would probably be a good time for it. I'll call a sub-vote once this vote closes. You can start arguing people around to it now, though, if you prefer.
 
...Though that reward reminds me, should we spend a cookie on this? Lailoken put his in the community pool, so this is probably a good a time as any to spend it.

It would probably be a good time for it. I'll call a sub-vote once this vote closes. You can start arguing people around to it now, though, if you prefer.
We still have a bunch of one time bonus that should work in this situation.
 
Greater bonus that might apply
Breaking out of a bad system.
A big reveal.
Next social with Jaffur.
Dealing with the fallout from the scout.
Escaping from or disrupting an enemy.

Lesser Bonus that might apply
Standing your ground.
Escaping a trap.

I really hope we don't need them.

 
We've got enough bonuses and had enough success that it's probably not necessary.
Negotiation is winning by a landslide, and that's explicitly the "high-risk, high-reward" option. We've successful convinced the easier targets, now we have to do so with the harder targets. Having more bonuses won't exactly hurt, and could make failure hurt less. I mean, a low roll can still sink us, and if we have to make another Deceit roll, we kinda want all the bonuses possible, and we currently don't have many, if any.
 
[X ] Try to negotiate a complete cease-fire. It'll mean making promises backed by your position of authority, and definitely will take some of your people scrambling to get Meerak to a radio to vouch for your sincerity and trustworthiness, but if you convince enough of the scouts that a fight isn't necessary right now, you may be able to pressure the leader into admitting that a surrender is his only choice. But you're not even sure if it's possible...

Still have to try ending this peacefully
 
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[ ] Try to negotiate a complete cease-fire. It'll mean making promises backed by your position of authority, and definitely will take some of your people scrambling to get Meerak to a radio to vouch for your sincerity and trustworthiness, but if you convince enough of the scouts that a fight isn't necessary right now, you may be able to pressure the leader into admitting that a surrender is his only choice. But you're not even sure if it's possible...

Still have to try ending this peacefully
Need to put in an X between the brackets.

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[X] Try to negotiate a complete cease-fire. It'll mean making promises backed by your position of authority, and definitely will take some of your people scrambling to get Meerak to a radio to vouch for your sincerity and trustworthiness, but if you convince enough of the scouts that a fight isn't necessary right now, you may be able to pressure the leader into admitting that a surrender is his only choice. But you're not even sure if it's possible...
No. of Votes: 13

[X] Try to negotiate a complete cease-fire. It'll mean making promises backed by your position of authority, and definitely will take some of your people scrambling to get Meerak to a radio to vouch for your sincerity and trustworthiness, but if you convince enough of the scouts that a fight isn't necessary right now, you may be able to pressure the leader into admitting that a surrender is his only choice. But you're not even sure if it's possible...
-[X] If their leader accuses you of buying time for more forces or notices the forces your father has positioned, admit that of course they came when your school was attacked, but they have agreed to hold back so as not to interfere with the first real diplomatic contact you've had other than with Meerak.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Try to get the three scouts you've broken through to to stand down entirely and surrender at once. It will basically announce that a fight is about to begin, but cut the scouts' numbers very neatly. You're certain you can manage this, the way things are right now.
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 15
Delmar, if they fix up their vote, brings i up to 14/16, and one of the remaining two is a variation.

Man, this has been a curb-stomp. :rofl:
 
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Need to put in an X between the brackets.

Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - Dragon Ball: After the End | Page 524 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 13124-13205]
##### NetTally 1.9.9

[X] Try to negotiate a complete cease-fire. It'll mean making promises backed by your position of authority, and definitely will take some of your people scrambling to get Meerak to a radio to vouch for your sincerity and trustworthiness, but if you convince enough of the scouts that a fight isn't necessary right now, you may be able to pressure the leader into admitting that a surrender is his only choice. But you're not even sure if it's possible...
No. of Votes: 13

[X] Try to negotiate a complete cease-fire. It'll mean making promises backed by your position of authority, and definitely will take some of your people scrambling to get Meerak to a radio to vouch for your sincerity and trustworthiness, but if you convince enough of the scouts that a fight isn't necessary right now, you may be able to pressure the leader into admitting that a surrender is his only choice. But you're not even sure if it's possible...
-[X] If their leader accuses you of buying time for more forces or notices the forces your father has positioned, admit that of course they came when your school was attacked, but they have agreed to hold back so as not to interfere with the first real diplomatic contact you've had other than with Meerak.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Try to get the three scouts you've broken through to to stand down entirely and surrender at once. It will basically announce that a fight is about to begin, but cut the scouts' numbers very neatly. You're certain you can manage this, the way things are right now.
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 15
Delmar, if they fix up their vote, brings i up to 14/16, and one of the remaining two is a variation.

Man, this has been a curb-stomp. :rofl:
Wish it was unanimous. Then there would be no doubts in her mind.
 
[X] Try to negotiate a complete cease-fire. It'll mean making promises backed by your position of authority, and definitely will take some of your people scrambling to get Meerak to a radio to vouch for your sincerity and trustworthiness, but if you convince enough of the scouts that a fight isn't necessary right now, you may be able to pressure the leader into admitting that a surrender is his only choice. But you're not even sure if it's possible...
 
[K] Go SSJ-1, full power
-[K] Eliminate 5 scouts (not the leader or ones we've convinced)
-[K] Tell the leader he gets to call us 'Goddess' now
-[K] Tell the normal humans that this was all a set up for a movie. None of it was real, and thank you all for participating.
--[K] If any disagree, vaporize them and ask the remaining ones if the movie needs to get even more violent.
-[K] Drop SSJ-1, drop back to our 'maximum' power from before, and act like none of it had happened.
--[K] Invite Maya and Jaron to a tea party.

There. Now there's a different, totally sane, plan for us to consider as an alternative.

Remember: if you want people to suggest good ideas, offer a bad one.
 
[X] Try to negotiate a complete cease-fire. It'll mean making promises backed by your position of authority, and definitely will take some of your people scrambling to get Meerak to a radio to vouch for your sincerity and trustworthiness, but if you convince enough of the scouts that a fight isn't necessary right now, you may be able to pressure the leader into admitting that a surrender is his only choice. But you're not even sure if it's possible...
 
Non-Canon Omake: Speechcraft; Critical Success
We'll, I can definitely see the way the wind is blowing. Oh, I'm not going to change my vote... but I'm not going to complain over losing the vote either.

With that said, what with all the bonuses we may or may not have going into this diplomacy, it's probably not as much of a gamble as I originally thought.

Still it's no sure thing, and... hold on, that give me an idea. I'll be right back.
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Okay, here's a short omake for you, a sort of crack view at this upcoming diplomacy where you can't lose for winning.

Speechcraft: Critical Success

Kakara was stunned, almost unbelieving of what happened. It had all happened so fast: one of the more hot-headed scouts had charged at her and she had instinctively flared her ki to protect herself. And then somehow, the scout had bounced off of her and slammed into the ground, breaking his neck and dying instantly.

How did that even happen?

Of course, she wasn't the only one flabbergasted. The rest of the scouts were also just as shocked at what had happened.

The scouts' leader was the first to speak. "Did... did you just kill that man?"

Well crapbaskets. They had her dead to rights on this one. Welp, only one thing left to do: lie her butt off.

"Umm... no?"
[Speechcraft roll: Critical Success]

The scout leader relaxed.

"Oh, how silly of me. Of course you didn't." The leader peered at her intently. "Did you see who did?"

Crapbaskets. She was horrible at thinking up lies. Still, she had already started this, she had to keep going.

"It was... some big freakin' brontosaurus."
[Speechcraft roll: Critical Success]

The leader nodded, completely serious, and turned to the rest of the scouts. "Alright men..."

"And women!" Interjected one of the scouts.

"Yes," agreed the leader, "men AND women..."

"And robots!" Yelled another scout.

"Yes, men, women and robots..."

"And amorphous blobs!"

"And sentient hiveminds!"

"And namekians!"

"I thought we didn't have any namekians in this battalion."

"We don't, but of we did I wouldn't want them to feel left out."

"Enough," screamed the leader, clearly at the end of his patience. "Alright MAGGOTS, split up and start searching for the brontosaurus!"

"But sir," asked one of the smaller and weaker scouts as the others flew off, "what if there is no..."

"Shut up recruit!" Yelled the leader. "That sauropod killed your treasured teammate. Are you going to let it get away with that? Well are you?"

"But sir..."

"I said Are You, maggot?"

"No sir." Replied the scout petulantly, flying off.

Once the only scout left was the leader, he turned back to Kakara. "Terribly sorry about that, you know how these things go. Now, if you don't mind me asking, who are you?"

Kakara paused, then continued on with her lies full steam ahead. "I'm the empress of the chimpanzees."
[Speechcraft roll: Critical Success]

"Oh, I'm sorry your majesty," replied the scout leader, "I'm afraid I didn't recognize you. I must be distraught after seeing one of my soldiers die."

Heck, if they were going to keep buying such obvious lies, she might as well keep going. "Oh, he's not dead, he's just sleeping."
[Speechcraft roll: Critical Success]

The scout nodded sagely. "Ah yes, getting sideswiped by a rampaging brontosaurus always makes me feel a mite drowsy as well. Better go wake him up."

It took Kakara all of her willpower not to burst out laughing. This was absolutely ridiculous. Still, she wasn't going to complain if the scout leader kept buying her lies.

"Oh my god, he's dead!" Shouted the leader. "Who did this?"

"You did." Kakara quickly shot back.
[Speechcraft roll: Critical Success]

"Oh my god, I killed this man! Nooooo..."

"Yep, with a feather duster."

"A what?"

"A feather duster."
[Speechcraft roll: Critical Success]

"Oh my god, I beat this man to death with a feather duster!"

"Yep, it's all your fault Greg."

"Wait, my name isn't Greg."

"Yeah it is."
[Speechcraft roll: Critical Success]

"Oh my god, my name is Greg!"

Kakara nodded sagely. "Well Greg, I better let you get going. I'm sure you're pretty busy, what with grieving over killing your treasured teammate and looking for the rampaging dinosaur."

"Yeah, I'd better get going, I..."
[Scout leader perception roll: 2 vs DC 1]
"Wait a minute... chimpanzees don't have an empire, they live in an isolationist, xenophobic constitutional monarchy. You're lying to me!"

Kakara stared at him incredulously. "Seriously? We go through all that, and THAT'S what tips you off?"

"I'll kill you! The leader screamed at her, and then charged.

Anticipating his attack, Kakara flared her ki to protect herself…

And the scout leader bounced off of her and slammed into the ground, breaking his neck and dying instantly.

Suddenly, another of the scouts returned. "Sir, I have to report that we have seen no sign of the brontosaur…"

The scout paused, looking down to see the scout leader laying dead on the ground.

"Oh my god, Scout Leader Greg is dead!" The scout turned, staring accusingly at Kakara. "Did you kill him?"

"Umm… no?"
[Speechcraft roll: Critical Success]
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Why yes, I did steal most of that from much better comedians, why do you ask?
 
So...tempted...to...point out....

Lying is deceit. Literally all of those were deceit...and we suck at that...

and speechcraft isn't a thing in this quest...

Kakara: Speechcraft is totally a thing, and it applied to those.

Wait, I think I was wrong.
 
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