I dunno. I have this condition where I suddenly find myself paralyzed and vividly hallucinating for several hours every couple of days. It's become a real time-sink. Apparently it's pretty common.
So I was just browsing the Dragon Ball wiki and I came across this:
If the creator allows it, the Dragon Balls can be used even if a year has not passed; this happens only once in the series, when Kami allowed Goku and his friends to revive all people killed by King Piccolo, even though it had only been a few days since King Piccolo wished to restore his youth.
[X] Flee the field with Cabba and Maya in tow. Know when to fold in a fight.
Turning In
Your eyes widen. Maya! NO!
And you lunge to your feet, your hands coming up to frame your forehead. On your right hand, two fingers brush just above the bridge of your nose, and you shout, "Taiyo-"
vip
-and those two fingers snap free and splay wide. "-KEN!"
FLASH
The alien rears back, his eyes having widened at your sudden imposition, and roars in agony.
And then Maya hits you from behind, driving the breath from your body as she tackles you down and out of the way of his blind retaliatory strike.
"Karen!" she says, holding you out at arm's length. "A- a- are you alright? Are you hu- hu-"
Maya, I'm fine, you send, brushing yourself off and checking the alien. You open a private line to Cabba and slip into your command voice. Masque name! Now!
Um- It's Charles, why?
You include him on the line with Maya. Charles, get over here! We need to go!
He doesn't question any further, zipping over to you. You reach out and pull Maya in close, put two fingers to your head, and Cabba's fingers just brush your elbow-
vip
-and you land clear on the other side of the planet, well away from your opponent.
You immediately turn to your friend and pull her into a hug. You run your hands down her back to soothe her; she's shaking. "Maya, I'm okay, it's alright, we're safe. You just have to suppress now, okay? Just suppress and calm down, it's fine, I promise."
"Ka- Karen, I'm fi- fine," she mumbles, ducking her head.
"You're shaking," you say, holding on tighter.
Maya pauses. "...no, Karen, yo- you are."
You blink and raise up your hand.
You laugh nervously. "Hu- huh. You're right." Your laughter escalates a bit before Maya drives the breath out of you with a tighter squeeze. Her power level starts settling back down.
"I- I'm okay. Promise," she says.
You tell yourself that you hold on tighter for her benefit.
After a moment, though, the moment shatters as your Dad's power level explodes onto your senses. Your head snaps up. He's at...a million, and under Masque.
May blinks, looking around. "Karen? You feel that?"
"It's Dad," you say.
KAKARA!
You wince, a hand fluttering up to your head at the force of the shout. Dad! I'm fine!
I'm on my way to the battle site. What happened?!
You wince. I...didn't take him seriously enough. I think it's a him. Even powering up wasn't enough. I was winning, but it wasn't fast enough, and then he transformed. I couldn't stop him, not that strong, and then...Maya showed up.
Silence on the line.
I got her and Cabba out, you say.
So I felt, he replies. Damn it! That's alright, I'll just go to Plan B.
Plan B?
Plan B for rolling back the Masquerade a bit, as far as ki use goes. I was hoping that Maya wouldn't have to be dragged into this mess with the aliens. I wish I could have afforded to keep you out of it. You hear a sigh across the line. I'm closing in on the site now, but I don't imagine I'll have any luck there. The scout has probably already escaped.
Your eyes widen. What? How?!
How'd you escape?
Solar Flare and Instant Transmission, why?
You're in a fight. Your opponent, who you've just begun beating, manages to turn the tables, blind you for a bit, and escape without a trace. You going to stick around to see if reinforcements are inbound? Yeah, he's gone. I just reached the site. Nowhere to be found, nowhere to be sensed.
Your stomach drops. But that means-
-nothing we weren't already prepared to accept, interjects Dad. We knew the scouts might separate; they would have known that we were hunting them down the moment we started ambushing them. We need to make this planet an unattractive prospect for them to keep them away; that's going to involve them discovering a bit of our presence here. It just means we need to redouble our efforts.
I still failed, you reply, closing your eyes. And you did fail...in more ways than one.
We'll talk about that later, says Dad, not contesting what you said. For now I need you to get Maya to your old training caves. Cabba will return to the hunting party.
You nod. Okay, Dad.
I love you, Kakara.
I love you too.
The line cuts, and you sigh.
"Karen?" says Maya.
"We need to go to our old caves," you say, toneless. "Charles, my Dad wants you to go back to your team. He'll probably talk to you later."
Maya looks even more worried now. Cabba just nods and lifts off. You stare off into the distance for a moment before reaching out, grabbing Maya's shoulder, and transmitting away.
* * *
"Karen, what was that thing?" asks Maya as the two of you walk down into your old caves.
"We'll talk about it when my Dad gets here," you say, still subdued.
"O- okay." She shrinks back a bit before mustering herself again. "Wha- what ha- happened to make you so stro- strong? I thought I- I- was stronger."
"if you need it you can boost your strength for a little while off of will," you say. "It only lasts a minute, though. I can't keep doing it." Technically true.
[Deceit-->True enough to pass]
"O- oh." Maya looks down. "Ka- Karen, are you su- sure you're okay?"
You find it in yourself to flash her a smile. It doesn't have much spirit behind it, though. "I'm fine."
The two of your hear running footsteps behind you, and Dad comes into view a moment later, under Masque. The first thing he does is pull you into a hug and then check you over for injuries. You wince as his thumb touches a bruise on your cheek. "You're okay," he breathes, hugging you again.
You nod, not really responding.
He pulls back. "Maya, Karen and I are going to go down a level to talk for a bit, okay? Can you wait here?"
Maya hesitates, but nods after a moment. Dad smiles at her and then starts tugging you to the next hallway down.
"So what happened?" he asks.
You duck your head and rattle off a report, falling into military form to make it simpler.
The shock of that fight is only just starting to hit you. Simple is good.
Dad listens patiently. Then he sighs. "Okay. I think I know what went wrong."
The two of you exit into the next chamber down. He leads you to a level stretch of ground and takes a seat, patting the rock beside him. You follow along.
He stares at you for a moment. Then he starts talking. "Ka-" His eyes flick up towards the next level. "Karen. What did you know about him before engaging?"
You blink. Oh. This is going to be a lesson. "I knew that he was a scout."
Dad nods. "Well, what does that imply?"
You frown. "What do you mean?"
"What is a scout's job?"
...you don't think you like where this is going. "To scout."
"Karen."
You look away. Dad straightens. "Scouts range ahead of the main body of troops. Given the nature of their duties, it is nearly certain that scouts will encounter qualitatively superior forces in the course of their duties. That means they most likely get outgunned at some point. And yet, they are sent out, with the expectation that they will survive to report back in."
...you definitely don't like where this is going.
"Scouts cannot count on evading contact every time," says Dad. "Sometimes they will be engaged by hostile forces. A good scout must be able to break contact, or survive long enough for reinforcements to arrive."
You curl in on yourself for a bit, waiting for the blow.
"Finally, your vision," he says. "We know that the scouts' orders are to find a suitable conquest for the regulars and then wait there. And yet, here they are. Which means that every single inhabited planet between where they started and Garenhuld has the strength to repel not only the scouts, but the main invasion force following them. From this, we may determine that the scouts have encountered beings far more powerful or capable than they have any hope of dealing with. And yet, at the end of their journey, here they stand, alive." He leans back. "Kakara, do you find it likely that this individual may have encountered somebody with a power level of at least two hundred thousand on the battlefield before?"
You close your eyes. "Yes."
"Did you know that for a fact?"
"No."
"Did you know about his transformation?"
"No."
"Did you know about his fighting style?"
"No."
"Did you know how skilled a fighter he was?"
"No."
"Did you know what his equipment did?"
"No."
"Did you know if he had reinforcements in the area with suppressed power levels, like you?"
"NO, okay?!" you snap, lifting your head up to glare at him.
He is unmoved. "Karen, you know how to throw a punch, and very well. You can fire ki blasts extremely well. You fly beautifully, and are only getting better as time goes on. You have better control of your ki than I do." He stares you down. "Karen, are you a fighter?"
You stare back at him for a long moment. You think of how you've always put off bringing your skills together into an actual martial art. And then you look down and away. "...just get it over with."
"I'm not going to say it."
"Everybody does."
"Not for years."
"BECAUSE THEY THINK I HELPED YOU!"
Silence falls.
Your Dad takes in a sharp breath after a while. It sounds shaky coming out. "...I have never told you that you wanting not to be a fighter was a bad thing."
"You don't have to," you say. "I know that they'll think it is."
"They're wrong."
You swallow. You don't even know what to think about that anymore.
Dad sighs. Then he reaches out and drops some rocks down into the tunnel leading up with telekinesis, to block noise going up the shaft. "There's nothing wrong with it, but it's the truth. You aren't a fighter. You have skills, but you've never tied them together into a coherent form. Your opponent...you fought on ground that their job description demands they be excellent at fighting on, and you aren't a fighter. You didn't have any intelligence on their capabilities beyond whatever you immediately sensed. You didn't power up high enough."
"I was leading him 4:3," you mutter. "He shouldn't have stood a chance."
"And you were winning," he says. "Barely, by your description. That's his skills coming into play."
"I would've finished it before she got there," you say.
"But he unveiled a secret you didn't know about, and surprised you," he says. "Which happens, and is why you should have gone in higher."
"I didn't want to have to explain it to Maya," you say.
"Willpower pushes," he says. "Yuki. It's hard to get them up as high as you needed to fake, but that doesn't matter when it's still only a fraction of what you're capable of. That is in fact the explanation you already used, if I heard correctly on my way in."
"You did," you mutter.
"Then as long as you were using that excuse, you should have gone all-in," he says. "As it stands...you engaged an opponent on ground they would be prepared to respond on. You knew nothing of their capabilities. You went in at a power level and with an approach that gave them time to react to you unless you accidentally disabled them on the first strike -- which wasn't even your intention. And yes, you were still winning. But he pulled out a surprise. And you should never assume that your opponent has none of those."
You swallow. "...I messed up."
He nods. "Yes. You did. But you will learn from this, I know."
You shrug.
"You will. You always have before." He sighs. "Now. Time to go bring your friend in on some of this." He reaches forward and lays a hand on your shoulder. "How much do you think we should tell her?"
Well?
[ ] Nothing. At least, as little as you can get away with. Garenhulders barely leave their cities. They don't know the first thing about their own planet. The alien was a monster. "Charles" found a monster.
[ ] Limited release. You all aren't sure what this thing is. But it's not from this world, and it didn't come alone.
[ ] Broad disclosure. Give her a filtered version of the events as you know them. You had a Vision a while ago, saying aliens were coming and that they were hostile. Tell her everything through the lens of human ki users being the active parties.
[ ] Full disclosure. Surely you can convince Dad to cast away the Masquerade your people have maintained for centuries for not terribly much reason at all, right? Well, once you do, go walk back upstairs without a Masque on, and start explaining.
I don't know. Poptart might have that condition where you suddenly find yourself paralyzed and vividly hallucinating for several hours every couple of days. I hear it's a real time-sink.
Think I feel that one coming on soon, in fact. :lol
Okay, folks. Real talk. I get a general sentiment among the thread that the last update was the result of bad rolls.
Kakara rolled an average of 63.8 on that combat, rounding. The alien rolled 52.5. What made him put up so much of an unholy fight was the bonuses he could stack on that. His skills, his styles, his tactics -- that all led to him resisting you quite a bit harder than you all were hoping for. Bear in mind the rolls that you failed, before cookies were applied. Two regular rolls that would have resulted in a broken arm, and two rolls that would have escalated to HAPCON 1. Here's the sections of text where you see the final result of Kakara passing those HAPCON 1 rolls, under cookie support.
You sense it trying to do something with its ki -- calling for help, maybe. No matter. You press harder, and keep it from doing so by forcing its attention onto you.
In other words, one of the bonuses the scout received was that you needed to win so handily that he couldn't even scream for help. He wasn't fighting to win; he was fighting to buy time while his team figured out that something was up.
And you were still winning...until it turned out that, yes, he had something in reserve you hadn't anticipated.
The dice were pulling for you, last update. There's just a limit to what they can achieve. As for what about the plan was faulty, Berra illustrates that above. But in a nutshell: you acted on limited intelligence against a trained soldier while under a heavy power penalty, and got slapped for it.
Which is a good thing.
If it were just rolls, then there wouldn't be anything you all could do about this situation. But in this case? It was just a mistake. Mistakes are fixable.
Now, I already said this in the commentary to the last update. But I got several PMs in the aftermath that referred to rolls messing up the plan, and that managed to make me forget that I had said it until I looked back to re-check what I said last time at the start of this paragraph.
So, to be perfectly clear: The result of the last update was not a result of poor rolls. This was player error.
As such, Kakara has gained the following:
Defeat Gained. First Contact: In the first encounter with the aliens, Kakara resorted to violence before words, and then lost the ensuing fight because of her mistakes going in. Her confidence in herself and her beliefs has been badly shaken, and the scout escaped.
We now have this last bit of social to conclude the event chain, and then it's time to deal with the rest of the year. Plus, y'know, the follow-on consequences from all this. :lol
And additionally, @NegativeJ! Have a greater bonus for the "Kakara Did Nothing Wrong!" pic you made! It's cashable towards dealing with the fallout from this mess.
@Blonddude42! I have indeed decided to upgrade your prior bonus from the Negaverse series to "compliant," netting a greater bonus given that you're basically guessing at what Jaffur's perspective was and the players aren't and can't be privy to that information. All bonuses going forward will be "compliant" as well for this work. Your second submission has netted a greater bonus to your next blown willpower check.
The bonus from NegativeJ's first fanart submission, for "escaping a messy situation," was expended in this update...but not in the way you would think...
And that's all she (or, possibly, he) wrote! I hope you all enjoy this update folks, and I will see you,
Kakara has escaped the battle with the scout with her friend and Cabba uninjured, but the battle has dealt a serious blow to the young Scion's self-assurance. Her beliefs were tested...and didn't hold up. Even worse, the scout escaped and is at large. While there hasn't been any response from the other scouts just yet, nobody knows what they're up to. The situation is still tense and uncertain, and beyond that, Maya is still waiting for answers. Only one thing is certain: nothing has been settled yet. Find out what happens next time, on Dragon Ball AE!
Damn. It's one in the morning for me. Guess I'll have to sleep then vote. I think I'll be supporting limited release. We don't want to reveal too much at one I think, but we want her to know there are more of them out there. I could be convinced to do broad disclosure if we want to accelerate the reveal though.
In another regard, the defeat is honestly not that bad. Sure it sucks, but overall it is something we can learn from and we needed this to get us use to the fact that we are not a fighter. We are a high level face character who rushed the diplomacy tree at the expense of the intrigue tree.
@PoptartProdigy so how much of a bonus do you get from having a higher power level then your opponent? You said before it was huge. Does not seem to be.
Also can we get Dad to explain his plan a major reason behind our plan was trying to work with his unknown plan. Which was a about impossible seeing as we did not know it. So we we could not show any of our cards because we didn't know what was important.
Edit: In fact right now I am mad that he still hasn't told us.
My doing, says Dad, sounding miserable. All of our warriors are under orders not to break eighty thousand if attacked.
You gape, baffled. Why?!
Maya, he says. It's the same reason I've kept my own power level so low. I'll explain later. You can go as high as you've shown her, maybe twenty thousand over if you think she won't sense it. I have to go now -- coordinating reinforcements. Put an end to this, Kakara.
This right here it completely messed us up. We have no idea what his plan was or what stakes it might have. We try to follow it even so and now he tells us off for doing so and still doesn't explain.
Edit: I am assuming he had a good reason to tell our scouts to keep their power level that low instead of a more flexible order like "keep it a bit lower then the enemy.". If he had not done that there would not even be an issue! So I assumed a good reason!
This right here it completely messed us up. We have no idea what his plan was or what stakes it might have. We try to follow it even so and now he tells us off for doing so and still doesn't explain.
Edit: I am assuming he had a good reason to tell our scouts to keep their power level that low instead of a more flexible order like "keep it a bit lower then the enemy.". If he had not done that there would not even be an issue! So I assumed a good reason!
Kakara! says Dad, re-establishing the link. Take him down before she arrives! I don't care how you do it or if you need to show more power than you have before; we need him down and out of sight before she gets here!
Defeat Gained. First Contact: In the first encounter with the aliens, Kakara resorted to violence before words, and then lost the ensuing fight because of her mistakes going in. Her confidence in herself and her beliefs has been badly shaken, and the scout escaped.
[ ] Recommit to pacifism. We always thought violence was wrong. When the moment came, we took what we thought was the cheap and easy way, out of convenience and necessity. We were rash, we were wrong, and we got crushed, and it hurt everyone's chances. We made an error, we were wrong, and we can learn from it.
- [ ] But Dad is right, we DO need a style, we do need to BECOME a fighter. To control our impulses, to not repeat this mistake, and so that if we ever accept this sin again we can at least make it count.
90 subjective seconds(180 after transformation), informed to relocate, enough of a power difference that even with the transformation and style we could have forcibly relocated them...
[x] Broad disclosure. Give her a filtered version of the events as you know them. You had a Vision a while ago, saying aliens were coming and that they were hostile. Tell her everything through the lens of human ki users being the active parties.
...Pretty much no discussion. People must have been busy.
[X] Broad disclosure. Give her a filtered version of the events as you know them. You had a Vision a while ago, saying aliens were coming and that they were hostile. Tell her everything through the lens of human ki users being the active parties.
[X] Broad disclosure. Give her a filtered version of the events as you know them. You had a Vision a while ago, saying aliens were coming and that they were hostile. Tell her everything through the lens of human ki users being the active parties.
[X] Broad disclosure. Give her a filtered version of the events as you know them. You had a Vision a while ago, saying aliens were coming and that they were hostile. Tell her everything through the lens of human ki users being the active parties.
[X] Full disclosure. Surely you can convince Dad to cast away the Masquerade your people have maintained for centuries for not terribly much reason at all, right? Well, once you do, go walk back upstairs without a Masque on, and start explaining.
The last few updates were partially the fault of the Masquerade. If we didn't need to worry about her finding out, then we could have had so many more options available to us. I'd prefer not to be in anywhere near the same situation again if we could help this, plus we can use this to work towards bringing the Misfits into the circle...
Which could also help the conspiracy by giving us more time with Jaron where we don't need to hide as many secrets!
[X] Full disclosure. Surely you can convince Dad to cast away the Masquerade your people have maintained for centuries for not terribly much reason at all, right? Well, once you do, go walk back upstairs without a Masque on, and start explaining.
The last few updates were partially the fault of the Masquerade. If we didn't need to worry about her finding out, then we could have had so many more options available to us. I'd prefer not to be in anywhere near the same situation again if we could help this, plus we can use this to work towards bringing the Misfits into the circle...
Which could also help the conspiracy by giving us more time with Jaron where we don't need to hide as many secrets!
Eh, always a risk of being called away or missing the vote close. Happened before, when if I'd changed my vote, it would have decided the vote: winning votes were tied, coin was tossed, I lost.
I'd vote for "limited" or "broad" disclosure; I don't see much functional difference between them from Maya's point of view. Either way, she needs to train up to fight an army of alien dinosaur-men. "Broad" is probably better than "limited" in that it brings in more of the relevant facts already known to Maya in order to lead her to the correct conclusion (train up to fight an army of alien dinosaur-men).
Oh right. Moratorium's over already...
[X] Broad disclosure. Give her a filtered version of the events as you know them. You had a Vision a while ago, saying aliens were coming and that they were hostile. Tell her everything through the lens of human ki users being the active parties.
Limited or broad I think. With broadwe might have to explain why we didn't tell her before but it sets up dad as prominent in ki user culture and reveals one exists... I am not sure he would want that but it is going to come up eventually.
We should also consider which one is more likely to make her want to warn our friends and which one will make her feel safer or a smaller need to help with them.
[X] Broad disclosure. Give her a filtered version of the events as you know them. You had a Vision a while ago, saying aliens were coming and that they were hostile. Tell her everything through the lens of human ki users being the active parties.
The more we tell her and the closer to the truth what we tell her is, the fewer Deceit checks we'll have to make. Not only are we AWFUL at Deceit, I don't like lying to our friend.
Only not voting for full disclosure because Dad will never go for it. Seriously, I'm sure the DC for that check is in the triple digits.
As the update did make clear, though, I made serious errors in Plan Crapbaskets. Given that a 20% difference in power levels is said to be dominating, I thought a 33% difference would be overwhelming enough to make up for any style bonuses. I completely forgot or ignored all the stuff Berra talked about in the update. I should have gone for 400k or 500k, which would likely have sufficed.
I've got more commentary on this update, but I feel like I'm too salty about the way the winning plan went to communicate it well. I'll hold off for now.
Okay I just caught up so I'm gonna go ahead and ask Poptart a question so that I can figure out how this works. Exactly how ironclad is the pacifism trait? Because up until now I had thought of it being like Gohan not liking to fight and thinking that there are other ways but being able to fight when the time calls for it. I had thought that scout fighting Cabba was one such instance but then I found out I was wrong. So now I'm wondering how hard you are holding to true pacifism. Because I can't help but feel that if it's that ironclad then Kakara should have been taking penalties for her collaborating with the Raditz family and this little conspiracy she's helping to come to fruition.
Because even with the best outcome to this it should lead to at least a small civil war when the match is finally lit. And if the pacifism trait is as hard as it seems then wouldn't Kakara's actions be ultimately leading to violence? Heck shouldn't all the sparring she does trigger it? Because even though sparring is non-lethal you are trying to hit and hurt the other person. Just not badly. So the trait as you've laid it out just seems a little contradictory to how things have gone so far in the other parts of Kakara's life since she has gotten it.