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Tien style let us above our weight class more then perfect multiform at this point though. Look at what Tien did to cell... Imagine what we could do with super saiyan!
 
Tien style let us above our weight class more then perfect multiform at this point though. Look at what Tien did to cell... Imagine what we could do with super saiyan!
I don't believe Tien Style gives us a greater than 300% increase, so I guess I disagree. Also, you're forgetting the ability to combine techniques like the Family Kamehameha - isn't everyone piling in on a beam fight one of the plans to take down an SSJ2? We can totally do that with the extra bodies.

Also, that wasn't Tien's Style, that was the Shin Kihoko being used over and over again as it tore his body apart - something we can safely do with Perfect Multiform.
 
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Tien style let us above our weight class more then perfect multiform at this point though. Look at what Tien did to cell... Imagine what we could do with super saiyan!
Accidentally blow up the planet?

Seriously, what pressing need is there for such a power right now?
What? Unless you're saying Tien himself wasn't using Tien Style in the example you gave then it very clearly doesn't, since he did take massive damage?
Sucal meant the "sacrifice health for greater power" I believe.
 
In any event, that's your lot.

Vote closed.

Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - Dragon Ball: After the End | Page 350 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.5

[X] Plan Deathbybunnies MK2
[X] Raise Grades (3 actions)
[X] Improve Masque Affinity (1 action)
-[X] Train Maya
--[X] With Dad
[X] Feeling Weird (1 action)
[X] Command Training (1 action)
[X] Train With Sensei (1 action, LOCKED)
[X] A Scion's Observations (1 action)
[X] Ki (1 action, may be taken multiple times)
-[X] Flight
-[X] Multiform (After Flight, so as to benefit from Ki Talents levelling up)
[X] Research Project (1 action)
-[X] Perfect Multiform
[X] Organise the better ki sensors of the two clans into patrols, searching for the enemy scouts - now that they aren't shielded by their ships' armour, hopefully any slipups will be detectable. (2 actions)
-[X] Develop a plan that involves minimal loss of life, for the sake of gaining information (and your personal ethics). You (and Dad) can use Instant Transmission and/or Solar Flare to move in and incapacitate the scouts, while the rest of the group makes sure no one gets away or gets off a message.
--[X] This probably isn't Plan A, especially before you have an idea of how easily the enemy can sense you or send back info. But it's worth having a plan at hand in case the opportunity presents itself. (And boy, do you hope it does.)
---[X]Organise some trained seers as a response to the alien invasion. Initially attempt to scry the past on the ship to gain more information on the aliens and use that information to track them down though both Sight and other plans.
[X] Recruit Sensei Carrick (1 Action)
-[X] Since he's now part of the conspiracy and a much better Seer than us, he should Mind Project into Jaffur!
No. of Votes: 12

[x] Plan Sucal MK6
No. of Votes: 10

[X] Plan Compromise
[X]Raise Grades (3)
[X] Improve Masque Affinity (1 action)
-[X] Train Maya
--[X] With Dad
[X] Feeling Weird (1 action):
[X] Train With Sensei (1 action, LOCKED):
-[X] Train Mind Projection
[X] A Scion's Observations (1 action):
[X] Organise the better ki sensors of the two clans into patrols, searching for the enemy scouts - now that they aren't shielded by their ships' armour, hopefully any slipups will be detectable. (2 actions)
-[X] Try and get the Seers scrying systematically across the planet. And looking into the past, to get hints.
-[X] Finally, see if anyone has trained in using their sense of smell. Perhaps they could track them down by scent? They're not from Garenhuld, so they could smell different.
-[X] Try not just to sense ki, but the absence of Ki. We know that they have material that blocks ki sense. However if it blocks ki sense we should be able to sense the blockages in the same way that we can detect a perfectly black airship in the sky because it block the stars.
[X] Train Talent (Flight) (1 Action)
[X] Train Tien Style (1 Action)
[X] Recruit Sensei Carrick (1 Action)
[X] Ki (1 Action)
-[X] Multiform (After Flight, so as to benefit from Ki Talents levelling up)
[X] A Scion's Observations (1 action)
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Whatever other plan focuses on schoolwork enough to get us straight A's again.
No. of Votes: 1

[x]plan learning
-[x] Raise Grades (3 actions): Your grades have slipped lately. Your parents aren't requiring it with everything else that's going on, but you still want to get them back to where they were. Effect: Hit the books for a possible grade gain. You are very smart, and thus should almost certainly succeed.
No. of Votes: 0

[x]Plan Sucal MK4!
[X]Raise Grades (3)
[X] Train Maya (1 action)
[X] Feeling Weird (1 action):
[X] Train Tien Style x 2 (With mum if she knows it)
[X] Train Talent (Flight) (1 Action) With Mum
[X] Train Specific Skill (Solar Flare) (1 Action)
[X] Study Jaffur's Form (1 action): l.
-[X] With Mato.
[X] Train With Sensei (1 action, LOCKED):
-[X] Train Mind Projection
[X] Recruit Sensei Carrick (1 action):
[X] A Scion's Observations (1 action):
[X] Socialize! (1 action): Betarel Senzu
No. of Votes: 0

[x]plan Sensei
[X] Raise Grades (3 actions)
[X] Improve Masque Affinity (1 action)
-[x] Train Maya (1 action)
--[x]well teaching her go over the funimentals again. It said that teaching is how you gain true mastery.
[X] Feeling Weird (1 action)
[X] Train Specific Skill (1 action)
-[x] Instant Transmission
[X]Bring Sensei into the conspiracy.(1 action)
[X] Train With Sensei (1 action, LOCKED)
[X] A Scion's Observations (1 action)
[X] Contacting Jaffur (1 action)
[X] Ki (1 action, may be taken multiple times)
-[x] Flight
--[x] Multiform (After Flight, so as to benefit from Ki Talents levelling up)
---[x]See if any member of the conspiracy knows Multiform. It would be better to train with someone else.
[X] Research Project (1 action)
-[x] Perfect Multiform
--[x] Attempt to use Sight to See Cell perform the move
No. of Votes: 0
Plan: ◈Sensei

[X] Plan Gore, aka Social and protecting our friends.
[X] Attend School
-[X] Raise Grades (3 actions)
[X] Loose Lips Lead to Ultimate Power (1 action)
[X] Train Maya (1 action)
-[X] Train Masque at the same time
[X] Feeling Weird (1 action)
[X] Train Ki Manipulation (2 actions)
[X] Study Jaffur's Form (1 action)
-[X] With Mato.
[X] Socialize! (1 action)
-[X] Fenella Peat
[X] Organise the best sensors of both clans into patrols, while have others(preferably professionals) begin investigating the landed ship and figure out ways to detect them(smell?). Also have the sorcerers and seers look into ways to find them. (2 actions)
No. of Votes: 0

[x]Plan Sucal MK5
[X]Raise Grades (3)
[X] Improve Masque Affinity (1 action)
-[X] Train Maya,
[X] Feeling Weird (1 action):
[X] Train Tien Style x 2 (With mum if she knows it)
[X] Train Talent (Flight) (1 Action) With Mum
[X] Study Jaffur's Form (1 action): l.
-[X] With Mato.
[X] Train With Sensei (1 action, LOCKED):
-[X] Train Mind Projection
[X] Recruit Sensei Carrick (1 action):
[X] A Scion's Observations (1 action):
[X] Organise the better ki sensors of the two clans into patrols, searching for the enemy scouts - now that they aren't shielded by their ships' armour, hopefully any slipups will be detectable. (2 actions)
No. of Votes: 0

Total No. of Voters: 24

Despite some interesting minority votes, Plan Deathbybunnies has enough of a lead to take this one regardless of swing votes. After another closely-fought race, we have a winner!

Plan Deathbybunnies
[X] Raise Grades (3 actions)
[X] Improve Masque Affinity (1 action)
-[X] Train Maya
--[X] With Dad
[X] Feeling Weird (1 action)
[X] Command Training (1 action)
[X] Train With Sensei (1 action, LOCKED)
[X] A Scion's Observations (1 action)
[X] Ki (1 action, may be taken multiple times)
-[X] Flight
-[X] Multiform (After Flight, so as to benefit from Ki Talents levelling up)
[X] Research Project (1 action)
-[X] Perfect Multiform
[X] Organise the better ki sensors of the two clans into patrols, searching for the enemy scouts - now that they aren't shielded by their ships' armour, hopefully any slipups will be detectable. (2 actions)
-[X] Develop a plan that involves minimal loss of life, for the sake of gaining information (and your personal ethics). You (and Dad) can use Instant Transmission and/or Solar Flare to move in and incapacitate the scouts, while the rest of the group makes sure no one gets away or gets off a message.
--[X] This probably isn't Plan A, especially before you have an idea of how easily the enemy can sense you or send back info. But it's worth having a plan at hand in case the opportunity presents itself. (And boy, do you hope it does.)
---[X]Organise some trained seers as a response to the alien invasion. Initially attempt to scry the past on the ship to gain more information on the aliens and use that information to track them down though both Sight and other plans.
[X] Recruit Sensei Carrick (1 Action)
-[X] Since he's now part of the conspiracy and a much better Seer than us, he should Mind Project into Jaffur!

And to kick things right off: any legacy cookie holders (check the cookie jar under "Omake Rewards" on the Rules Screen threadmark) may wish to declare for the Communication check to talk Sensei Carrick into Projecting into Jaffur if they're invested in the action's success. 'Cause I just rolled it, and y'all need 'em. Requires an investment of three to pass.
 
And to kick things right off: any legacy cookie holders (check the cookie jar under "Omake Rewards" on the Rules Screen threadmark) may wish to declare for the Communication check to talk Sensei Carrick into Projecting into Jaffur if they're invested in the action's success. 'Cause I just rolled it, and y'all need 'em. Requires an investment of three to pass.
Oh wow. I didn't think it would be a hard check - did we roll really badly?
 
Very well, Investing my Cooki

I already took a byte off the end, but the rest is still delicious, if a bit stale by now.
 
Of all the times to stop getting alerts and not be paying attention, I could have told people that part was a terrible idea. :(

I am guessing we actually rolled well in convincing Sensei and it it just that hard to do.

EDIT: And ninja'ed by seconds.
 
Sensei has good reason for not going into Jaffur's mind. He's on board with us which is all I care about. Not putting a cookie into it.
 
Ah man. Now I'm unsure whether we should spend the cookies to convince him. I had really really wanted to combine the actions, so many things I wanted to squeeze in. This is fair cop, but now we will either risk Sensei's life or not contact Jaffur on schedule.
 
Well shit. Could we have him throw us into Jaffur's mind instead?

Hmmmmm. Welp.

I assume that we can't do it ourselves with this time constraint?

Alas, no. He's not putting you anywhere near anybody's mind without you knowing how to make a proper go of it yourself. You'd need an action you haven't invested.

If it's any consolation, Sensei doing it was just the cherry on top of the option to bring him in yourself. You still accomplished that, and quite well.
 
Alas, no. He's not putting you anywhere near anybody's mind without you knowing how to make a proper go of it yourself. You'd need an action you haven't invested.

If it's any consolation, Sensei doing it was just the cherry on top of the option to bring him in yourself. You still accomplished that, and quite well.
Well, in that case I suppose the timetable was always going to be delayed if he thinks doing it this turn is unreasonable even with his explicit assistance - we can tell the other conspiracy members that the expert said "lol, try again next year."

Very well, Investing my Cooki

I already took a byte off the end, but the rest is still delicious, if a bit stale by now.
I recommend uninvesting your cookie, apparently it's a bad idea.
 
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