Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Feel free to suggest phrasing to fit the theme if you think of any.
Dragon Ball: After the End
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Did you mean the Peats or the Balors?
Either way, I can't help but think that they'd give a rather different account than Yammar has.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
I don't know about the write ins. Determined sounds a bit like achieving results/results matters regardless the method while Determination sounds a bit like she thinks the fate of her people is tied to hers and that she must carry that burden. Passionate sounds like the world is full of wonderfull things and she wants to live her life to the fullest. Like she wants to do all the things to the best of her abilities and invest herself on them. That seems like a nice outlook in life, ya know? Happier at least.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
My problem with it is that it is far to me me me me me.
I'd say that's more organisation.
I tried to make my write in so that it was clear that if force wouldn't work try a different method ect. while still holding onto morals ect.
Sry if that didn't come across.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I am actually sort of happy about this. We should be able to use this tech to improve the hall. This is an opportunity.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I sort of want to tell Sensei Carrick just so he knows we fought against the sealing. I did not like that look.
Right now he is just a Acquaintance [Positive]. I would like to bring that up.
Right now he is just a Acquaintance [Positive]. I would like to bring that up.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
This is honestly why I like Passionate the most right now. It feels, in some ways, both the most lively, and the most flexible. I'm leery of choosing one that makes Kakara too intractable and unbending. That might lead to bad decisions down the road.
- Location
- United Kingdom
This is one of the main reasons I like it as well.
The other is that it's downsides feel the most like Kakara. She may get things wrong, if she follows her heart, and does what she thinks is right. But that won't make her regret her original decision, just her methods/how she goes about achieving her goal.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I RETURN!
Okay then, separate.
Well, I would say that "Determined" is functional. It is somewhat unfocused, though. At present this is essentially, "Driven again, but with a bigger bonus." Which is intentional; it's a way of throwing together the three stock viewpoints. It doesn't come to a resolution about an specific mindset from which her determination flows; willpower, after all, draws from somewhere. Traits are meant to, as they develop, proceed towards more specific mindsets, much as people tend to develop towards specific mindsets over time. That said, sometimes traits do develop more like, "the same, but more so." So in this case, I'll let it pass.
Now, in the long term, this trait does not fully answer Kakara's question of "what does my drive mean for me?" Thus, the answer will simply be pushed down the line. "Determined" is a functional write-in that does not lock Kakara into a narrower personality, but advancing the trait further will require a shift in mindset. This option I see as Kakara's resolution that there's no time for introspection now, there are scouts to find, which results in a reaffirmation of her general drive.
Approved.
Hm...I'm seeing a hint of "Passionate" in there, but not very much. This looks a lot like it would play as a palette swap of Iron Will; namely, "no compromise on what I wish to achieve," as a general sentiment. Could you give me a few more details on what you're trying to achieve with this?
Pending.
Looks like no. Lots of empty lockers where gear should be; it looks like the scouts planned to be gone for a while and didn't actually care all that much about abandoning the ship. Does that mean the ship is actually cheap by new galactic standards? That would be an intimidating thought; this stuff isn't as good as the old Briefs masterpieces, but it's still pretty damn good. Or are the just confident that they can recover it from anybody who would find it, no matter what?
Bleh, Balors. And yes, I imagine they would. I also imagine neither would be strictly accurate through their respective prejudices, but that's why we have pastsight.
Is that a proposal? I have to say, it looks very similar to what Iron Will would shake out as once you strip out the flowery language.
Okay then, separate.
Well, I would say that "Determined" is functional. It is somewhat unfocused, though. At present this is essentially, "Driven again, but with a bigger bonus." Which is intentional; it's a way of throwing together the three stock viewpoints. It doesn't come to a resolution about an specific mindset from which her determination flows; willpower, after all, draws from somewhere. Traits are meant to, as they develop, proceed towards more specific mindsets, much as people tend to develop towards specific mindsets over time. That said, sometimes traits do develop more like, "the same, but more so." So in this case, I'll let it pass.
Now, in the long term, this trait does not fully answer Kakara's question of "what does my drive mean for me?" Thus, the answer will simply be pushed down the line. "Determined" is a functional write-in that does not lock Kakara into a narrower personality, but advancing the trait further will require a shift in mindset. This option I see as Kakara's resolution that there's no time for introspection now, there are scouts to find, which results in a reaffirmation of her general drive.
Approved.
Hm...I'm seeing a hint of "Passionate" in there, but not very much. This looks a lot like it would play as a palette swap of Iron Will; namely, "no compromise on what I wish to achieve," as a general sentiment. Could you give me a few more details on what you're trying to achieve with this?
Pending.
Looks like no. Lots of empty lockers where gear should be; it looks like the scouts planned to be gone for a while and didn't actually care all that much about abandoning the ship. Does that mean the ship is actually cheap by new galactic standards? That would be an intimidating thought; this stuff isn't as good as the old Briefs masterpieces, but it's still pretty damn good. Or are the just confident that they can recover it from anybody who would find it, no matter what?
Bleh, Balors. And yes, I imagine they would. I also imagine neither would be strictly accurate through their respective prejudices, but that's why we have pastsight.
Is that a proposal? I have to say, it looks very similar to what Iron Will would shake out as once you strip out the flowery language.
ChildishChimera
A umbran summon
- Location
- New York
[X] No. Patriarch Yammar makes good points about his reliability. You don't really know him yet. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" options are permanently struck from the yearly options and will not reappear in the absence of new information; your co-conspirators will respect your judgment as the one who knows this man most on a matter as delicate as this)
[X] "Passionate." You are alive in a way it seems few other people are. When you look at the world, you see it exploding with amazing things that you want to experience or possess. You can do no less than to burn just as brightly.
Passionate feels the most right plus sometimes you need to take time for yourself.
[X] "Passionate." You are alive in a way it seems few other people are. When you look at the world, you see it exploding with amazing things that you want to experience or possess. You can do no less than to burn just as brightly.
Passionate feels the most right plus sometimes you need to take time for yourself.
ElleonXan
Self-Proclaimed King of the Dumpster Fires
- Location
- USA
[X] Yes. You can trust him with this.
I was one of the ones in the last vote spearheading the idea to bring him in. Did you really expect me to vote any other way?
[X] "Passionate."
So yeah, assuming the two write ins both stay, we have five choices here... which I have given the alternate titles:
Which leaves two. Unrelenting sounds good from the onset, and I might have even been convinced to accept it... if I hadn't stepped back and looked at it in light of being part of a story. In that light, I realized that it's just Inflexible with different wording. Both, narritively, do the same thing: give us an unrelenting determination to see ourselves to our goals... the only difference being that with Unrelenting we'll try everything in our pursuit of our goal, while Inflexible merely has us not giving up.
And if you step back and look at it, with a majority of the options pointing heavily towards "here is goal, achieve it," mightn't that be the first step towards the Path of Berra, where we are unable to be diverted from a wrong course because we erroneously believe it to be a right one?
So yeah, voting for the Zest for life choice.
I was one of the ones in the last vote spearheading the idea to bring him in. Did you really expect me to vote any other way?
[X] "Passionate."
So yeah, assuming the two write ins both stay, we have five choices here... which I have given the alternate titles:
- Inflexible (Iron will)
- Ruthless (Organized)
- Zest for life (Passionate)
- Unrelenting (Determined)
- Martyr-/messiah-/main-character-complex (Determination)
Which leaves two. Unrelenting sounds good from the onset, and I might have even been convinced to accept it... if I hadn't stepped back and looked at it in light of being part of a story. In that light, I realized that it's just Inflexible with different wording. Both, narritively, do the same thing: give us an unrelenting determination to see ourselves to our goals... the only difference being that with Unrelenting we'll try everything in our pursuit of our goal, while Inflexible merely has us not giving up.
And if you step back and look at it, with a majority of the options pointing heavily towards "here is goal, achieve it," mightn't that be the first step towards the Path of Berra, where we are unable to be diverted from a wrong course because we erroneously believe it to be a right one?
So yeah, voting for the Zest for life choice.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[x] No. Patriarch Yammar makes good points about his reliability. You don't really know him yet. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" options are permanently struck from the yearly options and will not reappear in the absence of new information; your co-conspirators will respect your judgment as the one who knows this man most on a matter as delicate as this)
-[x] however over the course of your lessons mention that you fought against the sealing. He is likely to teach more if he knows we are also against mind control.
[X] "Organized." This is not a matter of dramatics. You have your goals. What does it take to achieve them? All else falls away once you have determined that.
I like rationality. I wish there was more of it. I would try and create a trait rationalist, but I doubt my writing skills.
-[x] however over the course of your lessons mention that you fought against the sealing. He is likely to teach more if he knows we are also against mind control.
[X] "Organized." This is not a matter of dramatics. You have your goals. What does it take to achieve them? All else falls away once you have determined that.
I like rationality. I wish there was more of it. I would try and create a trait rationalist, but I doubt my writing skills.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
@PoptartProdigy : Does the conspiracy have any idea why Jacob was moved to our school?
- Location
- sealed in the moon
[x] No. Patriarch Yammar makes good points about his reliability. You don'treally know him yet. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" options are permanently struck from the yearly options and will not reappear in the absence of new information; your co-conspirators will respect your judgment as the one who knows this man most on a matter as delicate as this)
-[x] however over the course of your lessons mention that you fought against the sealing. He is likely to teach more if he knows we are also against mind control.
[X] "Organized." This is not a matter of dramatics. You have your goals. What does it take to achieve them? All else falls away once you have determined that.
Seems most likely to give extra actions.
-[x] however over the course of your lessons mention that you fought against the sealing. He is likely to teach more if he knows we are also against mind control.
[X] "Organized." This is not a matter of dramatics. You have your goals. What does it take to achieve them? All else falls away once you have determined that.
Seems most likely to give extra actions.
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
Guys, @PoptartProdigy has strongly encouraged us to not think mechanically for the Trait vote. Why is the primary logic on some votes then "EXTRA ACTIONS"? It seems counter-intuitive.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Idea for another action
[]Tell Maya that Jaron also has the potential to learn ki. Ask her if she wants to include him in our lessons. If she says yes action changes to invite Jaron to our training sessions. If no train with him normally.
Dandeer can't really object given her justification for the seal to Dad and considering that we have told Dad what we think of the sealing it would be odd if we don't do something when we are meeting Jaron every day.
[]Tell Maya that Jaron also has the potential to learn ki. Ask her if she wants to include him in our lessons. If she says yes action changes to invite Jaron to our training sessions. If no train with him normally.
Dandeer can't really object given her justification for the seal to Dad and considering that we have told Dad what we think of the sealing it would be odd if we don't do something when we are meeting Jaron every day.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
[X] "Determined" It doesn't matter what your goal is, through sheer guts, mercy, brains or power you will adapt and will always be able to achieve your goals.
I'd rather not limit ourselves to this mind set at this age and remember people we're still what 12/13.
This isn't really the age for this despite our extraordinary circumstances.
I'd rather not limit ourselves to this mind set at this age and remember people we're still what 12/13.
This isn't really the age for this despite our extraordinary circumstances.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I said I could not think of good writing for a rationalist trait. I am going to try anyway.
[] Rationalist: You face the world headon rejecting comforting lies. You see the world as it is and when it is wrong you work to make it right. From you knowledge come your beliefs from your beliefs come your goals and from your goals flow your actions. You keep track of this progression so you can always act forthrightly and without regret or shame.
[] Rationalist: You face the world headon rejecting comforting lies. You see the world as it is and when it is wrong you work to make it right. From you knowledge come your beliefs from your beliefs come your goals and from your goals flow your actions. You keep track of this progression so you can always act forthrightly and without regret or shame.
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