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[ ] Yes. You can trust him with this. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" option occurs next year; even if you don't take it, somebody will approach him to bring him in)
[ ] "Organized." This is not a matter of dramatics. You have your goals. What does it take to achieve them? All else falls away once you have determined that.

Gut says theses
 
Welllllll.

Piss.

[] "Determined" It doesn't matter what your goal is, through sheer guts, mercy, brains or power you will adapt and will always be able to achieve your goals.

I dunno.

@PoptartProdigy apparently some people like my suggestion so I suppose now I should justify it as best I can.

... yeah its kinda hard determination is a very vague concept, my logic for how Kakara would come up with it would be thinking about the three examples she was told of.

Each has an advantage
Iron will Strength to keep going, but too unyielding
Organised is probably the most practical, but its also the coldest, not necessarily bad, but that can develop and it contrasts with her current traits.
And Passionate... probably the closest to my write in and probably to Kakara's personality... or iron will not sure, in any case living life to its max is good, but again that has its problems especially is possibly a feeling that its all about her... maybe.

So I'd imagine she'd take some time to think on them and what she herself has done, she's gotten through not by having an iron will, she's known when to bend, she hasn't always been the most organised, she's just been the most organised she can practically be, she's always been passionate, but she's known when its not all about her she knows this well.

The thing that's been with her is that she knows her goals and she has a determination to find the best solution to a problem no matter if it requires she retreat, if she has to bend if she has to put others in front, she will always find her way to her goal with morals and head held high and she's determined to keep it that way.

Of course this is probably really badly written and doesn't mean anything and ahhahahahha, but what evs...

Sigh.
 
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[ ] "Iron Will." Never give up. Never give in. No matter what stands in your path, let it bounce off of you. You decide what your course of action is, and you will stay the course.
[ ] "Organized." This is not a matter of dramatics. You have your goals. What does it take to achieve them? All else falls away once you have determined that.
[ ] "Passionate." You are alive in a way it seems few other people are. When you look at the world, you see it exploding with amazing things that you want to experience or possess. You can do no less than to burn just as brightly.
None of these appeal, but I can't think of something better.

Also, told people we should have trained our friends.
 
Of the three, Passionate sounds like the best. Iron Will sounds like stubbornness and Organised is too cold, sounding like it would run up against Oddball. Passionate sounds like Kakara has the will of the sun in her which to me sounds really damn cool.

Alex pear's suggestion of Determined is in my opinion better, though. It takes the best of all three, giving Kakara the tools to do whatever job needs doing. A flexible mindset, but no less powerful than any of the others.
 
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Alex pear's suggestion of Determined is in my opinion better, though. It takes the best of all three, giving Kakara the tools to do whatever job needs doing. A flexible mindset, but no less powerful than any of the others.
Unfortunately it could be seen as OP, on the other hand being determined is nothing unusual.

There's also the idea that while it doesn't have any of the disadvantages it could be weaker overall.
 
Just remember.

If you want to make Poptarts day, ensure its an entertainingly neutral write in that can be used to bite us in the butt one or more times.

Theres nothing more fun for a Gm then a character that gets themselves into trouble!
 
Passionate seems best. Iron Will sounds like it would make it harder to change our path even on light of new information and organized sounds like we would ignore things unrelated to our goals. Passionate sounds about right with that hunger to live our life to the fullest.
 
I like Iron Will, but I'd prefer something a little more like this:

[] "Determination" Your life is yours to live and nothing will take it away. You refuse to turn astray from your morals or your path. The onus of your people's fate -- all of them -- rests on your shoulders, and you refuse to lose. If necessary, you will change fate itself to your ends.
 
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I wrote in my logic for how Kakara would reach a determination type thing feel free to rip it apart.
I liked it! On the note of liking things:

@PoptartProdigy I loved this chapter! I'm not a frequent participant in this quest because I'm not terribly familiar with the DBZ universe, but this chapter was enough to drag me kicking and screaming in to put my two cents in to this vote. That was awesome!
 
Honestly I like Passionate more then some thing about Determination.

Mostly because we are trying to avoid going the 'ambition thats WRONG' route, but also because I've been listening to Undertale remixes lately.

Determination + Ambition is a slippery slope
 
Honestly I like Passionate more then some thing about Determination.

Mostly because we are trying to avoid going the 'ambition thats WRONG' route, but also because I've been listening to Undertale remixes lately.

Determination + Ambition is a slippery slope
Well, yeah, but that's half the point of it. I'd rather Kakara have some amount of internal conflict over whether what she's doing is right even as she goes through with what she thinks is best unflinchingly. Since this is a non-mechanical consideration, it's more a question of what we'd find interesting to read, and internal conflict and angst thereabouts is always good fun. :D
Improvements suggestions?
Hm... no specific critiques of your ideas, but my impression of determination is more a mix of Iron Will and something else than as much a hybrid as you make it out to be... like, I'd vote for Iron Will, but its phrasing is too harsh for me and precludes the kind of struggles for her I'd like to see. Determination is more about denying what could be altogether than fighting through it.
 
Well, yeah, but that's half the point of it. I'd rather Kakara have some amount of internal conflict over whether what she's doing is right even as she goes through with what she thinks is best unflinchingly. Since this is a non-mechanical consideration, it's more a question of what we'd find interesting to read, and internal conflict and angst thereabouts is always good fun. :D

If we wanted internal conflict and Angst, we'd be playing Jaffur right now!

(or at least that type of angst)

I'd prefer not DETERMINED and AMBITIOUS. We are the nice pacifist!
 
I am briefly awake to see my wife out the door to work.

I will hold on ruling on the "Determined" and "Determination" write-ins for the moment, as I am uncertain if the write-in authors are attempting to develop their two write-ins towards each other or intend for them to be entirely separate write-ins. The similar names, they are ambiguous. ;) Clarify for me, folks?

I liked it! On the note of liking things:

@PoptartProdigy I loved this chapter! I'm not a frequent participant in this quest because I'm not terribly familiar with the DBZ universe, but this chapter was enough to drag me kicking and screaming in to put my two cents in to this vote. That was awesome!

It was extremely good.

Eeeeee! :D Thank you!
 
Clarify for me, folks?
I do think that mine and @Cariyaga's idea of determination are a little bit different.

[] "Determined" It doesn't matter what your goal is, through sheer guts, mercy, brains or power you will adapt and will always be able to achieve your goals.

[] "Determination" Your life is yours to live and nothing will take it away. You refuse to turn astray from your morals or your path. The onus of your people's fate -- all of them -- rests on your shoulders, and you refuse to lose. If necessary, you will change fate itself to your ends.
I think I tried to integrate all 3, not necessarily well, and Cariyaga combines passionate and iron will together.

At the end of the day the jist of the idea is pretty much the same, mine I think is... quieter.

Maybe I dunno.
 
I do think that mine and @Cariyaga's idea of determination are a little bit different.




I think I tried to integrate all 3, not necessarily well, and Cariyaga combines passionate and iron will together.

At the end of the day the jist of the idea is pretty much the same, mine I think is... quieter.

Maybe I dunno.
Maybe yours would be better phrased as "Adaptation" so that there's a difference in verbiage between them?
 
Is there more than just the ship we discovered? Because if we set an ambush (removing the engine just in case), we could capture the scouts fairly easily.

On Carrick, I am tempted to trust him. He's been fairly reasonable and Jaffur's treatment doesn't seem to be something he approves of. I also sorta suspect that he does or will know about at least the cliff notes of our activities. Fucking precogs man.

As for the other, oh boy do we need to make this perfect. I like Determination, currently trying to think of something better than that. I don't really like Iron Will, stubbornness can be equally as erroneous as passivity.
 
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