Quest
The Great One
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- Everywhere
Wouldn't it be easier to make it reflexes that are sped up, rather than pure thinking speed? It's one thing to act and react, but another thing entirely to actually learn at that speed.
Dragon Ball: After the End
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- Rockford, USA
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- They/Them
Honestly, if you want to think of it that way, go ahead; the reason I do it this way is because the Z Fighters not only react, but think and strategize on that time scale. Ultimately the important thing is that this won't be granting extra yearly actions. This simply happens to be my way of explaining why.
ElleonXan
Self-Proclaimed King of the Dumpster Fires
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- USA
So just to clarify: The Super part of it is (of course) still banned, but there are no blanket bans on whole games that only in part deal with Super or the original content part of the games? So as long as the Super stuff got left out, the OC, DB and DBZ rehash portions of the games are fair game for discussion, argument... and omakes? (Not that I'm working on an omake... nope, not me. *shifty eyes*)
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- Rockford, USA
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- They/Them
That is completely correct. GT is also open for discussion, for that matter.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
Can anyone come up with a non-combat use for Ki that actually makes use of SS levels of power?
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
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- Midwest, USA
Not that wouldn't still be super-noticeable outside of the wards.
I mean, some sort of "light show", or maybe even create sculptures of light/Ki.
Mapping out the topography of an area, continent, or even planet.
Mapping out the mineral veins and composition of a planet.
Creating enough Ki protection you can skim close to a star/sun to gather scientific data.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Percision measurements of distance. That would be cool.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
It can also be something you use in the hall. Like turning lead into gold because your allowence isn't enough.
Edit: The power Ball seems to be very stable. I wonder if a true master of ki could make a completely stable light ball.
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KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
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- Midwest, USA
I don't know that Ki would let us transmute elements. I'm more extending concepts like "enhanced senses" and "active ping" to the fullest extent possible.
That said, none of what I spelled out seems like it should require Super Saiyan levels of power, just lots of control.
That said, none of what I spelled out seems like it should require Super Saiyan levels of power, just lots of control.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
We need to make our ki controll no merely exceptional, but perfect.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
Only thing I can think of with inherent high PL requirement is Buu's dimension break.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I think that's enough time.
We have a winner! Vote closed.
[X] "With all due respect, Sensei, very little of that applies in this specific case..."
-[X] Tell him about Jaffur.
--[X] Tell him we haven't dared tell anyone about this - what if Dandeer decides to finish the job, and kill Jaffur?
Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - Dragon Ball: After the End | Page 332 | Sufficient Velocity
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[X] "With all due respect, Sensei, very little of that applies in this specific case..."
-[X] Tell him about Jaffur.
--[X] Tell him we haven't dared tell anyone about this - what if Dandeer decides to finish the job, and kill Jaffur?
No. of Votes: 10
[X] "With all due respect, Sensei, very little of that applies in this specific case..."
-[X] Tell him about Jaffur.
--[X] Tell him we haven't dared tell anyone about this - what if Dandeer decides to finish the job, and kill Jaffur?
-[X] Keep in mind his vehement reaction opposing mind rape, to bring up the idea at the Conspiracy Council to bring him "into the loop."
No. of Votes: 7
[X] "With all due respect, Sensei, very little of that applies in this specific case..."
-[X] Tell him about Jaffur.
No. of Votes: 6
[X] Fake an aneurysm.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Remember to be on guard against surprise tags during the next encounter with the Senzu.
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 25
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[X] "With all due respect, Sensei, very little of that applies in this specific case..."
-[X] Tell him about Jaffur.
--[X] Tell him we haven't dared tell anyone about this - what if Dandeer decides to finish the job, and kill Jaffur?
No. of Votes: 10
[X] "With all due respect, Sensei, very little of that applies in this specific case..."
-[X] Tell him about Jaffur.
--[X] Tell him we haven't dared tell anyone about this - what if Dandeer decides to finish the job, and kill Jaffur?
-[X] Keep in mind his vehement reaction opposing mind rape, to bring up the idea at the Conspiracy Council to bring him "into the loop."
No. of Votes: 7
[X] "With all due respect, Sensei, very little of that applies in this specific case..."
-[X] Tell him about Jaffur.
No. of Votes: 6
[X] Fake an aneurysm.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Remember to be on guard against surprise tags during the next encounter with the Senzu.
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 25
We have a winner! Vote closed.
[X] "With all due respect, Sensei, very little of that applies in this specific case..."
-[X] Tell him about Jaffur.
--[X] Tell him we haven't dared tell anyone about this - what if Dandeer decides to finish the job, and kill Jaffur?
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
Basically all the same. Also saving you from double posting.
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- Actually pretty lost
Invisibility and using ki without ki emissions would both likely fall under "ki tricks". Imagine if we could go SS2, but only put out SS1 levels of ki to be detected? EDIT: And, obviously, putting out large amounts of ki whilst being undetectable is the dream.
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Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
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- Bottom of the barrel
Honestly, with Ki user I'd see it as more of a matter of scale once you hit the higher tiers, even if most refuse to use it like that.
Healing an entire planet at once.
Hypnotizing an invading army to leave in peace
Depending on how you see certain DBZ movies, a powerful enough Ki user might even be able to return the recently deceased to life.
A modified version of the devilmite beam might be able to 'burn' the evil out of someone (which would likely give them a spiritual lobotomy).
Maybe a 'reverse' spirit bomb, that increases the potency of surrounding life by giving them some of the users ki.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Looking over the character sheets I realized something annynoing. Even though Kakara has had 3 years extra training she is still only equal with Jaffur's ki control even though she is supposed to be a ki prodigy.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
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- Bottom of the barrel
Kakara is a Ki Prodigy.
Jaffur is a headcase with the type of Insane Focus that would either get him massive results or break him. In most of the other talents, hes lacking.
its like how Kakara is the one without combat skills (comparatively), but look how good she is.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
That is just the thing Jaffar is still likely the better fighter of the two of them and he is also better with Ki.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
- Location
- Bottom of the barrel
No, hes better with Ki Control, which he needs for that style of his.
Which we might match already since it seemingly requires exceptional control.
Doesn't mean he matches us with the other fundamentals of Ki control.
Remember that Kakara was 'the weakling'
He's not, though. He's at least equal to Kakara in Ki Control, and presumeably as good as Kakara at flying, but I don't think he's as good as her at sensing ki, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't know telekinesis, telepathy or Multi-Form.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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@PoptartProdigy : is Kakara's ki sense good enough to detect lifeforms on other planets? Goku was able to use instance transmission to travel between planets as soon as he learned the trick.
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- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Theoretically. In practice she'll need to be elsewhere/much better/more powerful before she picks up on anything; Garenhuld does have a two-system blanket of nothing in any given direction, after all. Even for an FPSSJ at her level of skill, that's stretching it. Now, exceptionally powerful ki signatures are much more noticeable, much the same as stars being visible from a longer distance than planets. But even that would have to be pretty close in galactic terms for her to notice.
For Kakara in particular, she:
- can pick up all ki signatures around the last recorded galactic average (low hundreds) possessed by the Exiles on the same planet without exception or paying any particular attention
- can pick up all RGA signatures in the same solar system if paying attention
- can bounce an active ping off of RGA signatures in the next solar system over (thirty light years at the most, but take note that this number is reactive with narrativium
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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So she could just teleport onto one of their ships? Hmm, Can't tell them to go away. That would break the masquerade. Once they know this planet is defended by powerfull ki users they can not be allowed to leave and talk about it.
I was just reading about instance transmission. It has been used to teleport to the afterlife and back. When Kakara's had that meeting with God Gohan did she get a feel for his ki? Or does she happen to have any dead relatives?
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- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Mortals cannot sense divine ki. As far as she was paying attention (not very, so she was picking up about everything in planetary range), there was nobody she could sense when she visited Gohan.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
@PoptartProdigy : How different is Ki from Chakra? Could Kakara make a rasengan?
Edit: I just thought of a useful Ki experiment. Try to listen in on other people's telepathy. It should give quite a bit of a boost to our intrigue and it works to Kakara's strengths as a ki prodigy and having awesome ki sense. Is listening in on other people's telepathy already a thing or can Kakara invent it?
Edit: I just thought of a useful Ki experiment. Try to listen in on other people's telepathy. It should give quite a bit of a boost to our intrigue and it works to Kakara's strengths as a ki prodigy and having awesome ki sense. Is listening in on other people's telepathy already a thing or can Kakara invent it?
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