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Dragon Ball: After the End

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[X] Take a risk. Bring Sensei into the conspiracy and hope he'll side with you. Then try to get him to help you reach Jaffur.

Honestly, do you think he doesn't know already?
 
[] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.

Actually wait, could we spin it that we kinda already accidentally did it and want to learn so that we don't do it accidentally again? We can mention that have already been in someone's mind. We've just established we're unusual because of our early vision on the enemy, lets leverage that by presenting ourselves as an uncontrollable prodigy who needs lessons!
 
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Whoops, forgot to actually vote after the moratorium!
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
 
[] Mentioned that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.

See my above post.
 
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[X] Mentioned that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.

Spelling corrected, but I can work with this. It's a clever angle, and sorta reveals our hand without going all the way.

It also is all too plausible from his perspective because prodigy bs.
 
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.

Let's not get our brain fucked up. More.

But let's brainfuck Sensei. Maybe he'll even give us tips on what to do if it happens again, which might give us hints on how to do it on purpose.

Be a sneaky extroverted oddball ninja Saiyan.
 
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[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.

I think this is the best path. It respects his authority while also giving him reason to do what we want.
 
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.
 
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[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.

Fair point @Aranfan
 
[X] Take a risk. Bring Sensei into the conspiracy and hope he'll side with you. Then try to get him to help you reach Jaffur.

If he doesn't wish to help, we can always make it worth his while not to tell. If he doesn't, he gets... nothing. It is a tempting offer, I think.

Actually, is there a particular reason we are not telling our seer teacher we talked to Gohan and he doesn't like what happened to Jaffur? It is not like name dropping is an uncommon or a frowned upon tactic in dragon ball.

Edit: You know, besides him being a Balor and thus anti Faith.

Double edit: Actually, Gohan told us not to worry about the Enemy until after we solved the Jaffur situation and it was implied he wouldn't answer any questions about him until then. Sounds like a good reason our sensei would help resolve it since no seer can gather info beyond what we saw.
 
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Bakkasama said:
[X] Take a risk. Bring Sensei into the conspiracy and hope he'll side with you. Then try to get him to help you reach Jaffur.

If he doesn't wish to help, we can always make it worth his while not to tell. If he doesn't, he gets... nothing. It is a tempting offer, I think.

Actually, is there a particular reason we are not telling our seer teacher we talked to Gohan and he doesn't like what happened to Jaffur? It is not like name dropping is an uncommon or a frowned upon tactic in dragon ball.

Edit: You know, besides him being a Balor and thus anti Faith.

Double edit: Actually, Gohan told us not to worry about the Enemy until after we solved the Jaffur situation and it was implied he wouldn't answer any questions about him until then. Sounds like a good reason our sensei would help resolve it since no seer can gather info beyond what we saw.
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Gohan actually said that Dandeer was Kakara's major source of danger and that she should focus on dealing with her before addressing either the Enemy or the Jaffur situation.
 
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.
 
[X] Take a risk. Bring Sensei into the conspiracy and hope he'll side with you. Then try to get him to help you reach Jaffur.

If he gets in on this, maybe he can do the mindwalking for us?
 
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.
Changing my vote.
 
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.

I like this new version of the vote. However...

As I said before, I don't think this would be the right time or place to try to induct our teacher into the Grand Conspiracy. Since the other vote seems to be gaining traction, let me expound on this a bit:

Ahem. We are plotting treason. Moreso we are not only planning treason, but conspiring with a group of known traitors to enact grand treason and initiate a forced coup in the already volatile half of our society. We need to be careful. In fact, let me say that again. We need to be careful.

We have not sounded Sensei out. We have not even casually conversed with him about this, if I'm remembering the story correctly. We don't know if he's on our side or if he would be totally on the other side. So bringing him in is a HUGE risk, one that we should save for a last resort, not just when our very first plan A falls through.

But he's a seer, I hear you say, wouldn't he have already known about our treason or our mindwalk into Jaffur or something... having seen it? Possibly, but there's no guarantee that that's the case.

Let's look at the options: Option one is that he HAS for seen it, and is on our side. If this is the case, then telling him would accomplish little. If he already knows, then telling him probably won't change his mind.

Option two is that he knows and is against us. In this case, why hasn't he reported us? The only thing I can think of is that he, and whoever he told, (probably at least Dad, maybe Dandeer as well) feel that we can't be punished for something we didn't do... so we're being given just enough rope to hang ourselves with. Admitting to him now would just be tying the noose.

The third option would be that he would be against us, but just doesn't know. In that case, telling him is likely a bad idea. Just saying...

And obviously the fourth option is the "yes with us, doesn't know" one.

There is also a fifth (and/or sixth, if you want to could them as seperate) option, in that whether he knows or not, he may be apathetic to it... in which case telling him would probably do us no good.

So yeah... out of five or six options having only one option be good, while at least two are very negative? Yeah, in all good conscience I can't vote for taking a risk this big.

Maybe if our illustrious author had written a lot more on this character so that I could get a much better read on him- or if we had ever bothered to sound out Sensei on this issue beforehand- I might be more inclined to trust him. But as it stands, potentially blowing the conspiracy wide open just because we're impatient about learning an (albeit important) skill seems to me to be a very bad idea.

Also, is it just me, or was the "the more people who know a secret, the less safe that secret is" line that Sensei gave us kinda ominous in light of the current vote?

And that's not even getting into the possibility that this training really is too dangerous for us now, and thus he wouldn't teach us even if he agrees and joins the conspiracy.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just tired and fatigued and don't know what I'm talking about. G'night, all.
 
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.
 
Vote tally:
##### 3.19
[X] Take a risk. Bring Sensei into the conspiracy and hope he'll side with you. Then try to get him to help you reach Jaffur.
No. of votes: 6
Gamerlord, fictionfan, Alex pears, Alanek, Bakkasama, Ridiculously Average Guy
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
No. of votes: 7
Andres110, Lupercal, veekie, adaer, NyxNull, Pyran, Deathbybunnies
[X] Bribe Sensei with cake to learn Ki Sight instead
No. of votes: 1
Sucal
[X] We Saw that you'd say yes. It was probably to comfort the young and vulnerable Scion who recently saw the death of her ancestors. It was a vision that made a surprising amount of sense.
No. of votes: 1
Pandemonious Ivy
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.
No. of votes: 8
KaintukeeBob, Aranfan, CaesriusPolybius, Terrabrand, NotAlwaysFanfic, Karnax626, ElleonXan, The Meddler
 
[X] Accept Sensei's judgment. Train your Sight as normal for the year.
-[X] Mention that you've already walked into someone else's mind, by accident even. We need to know this so that we don't get into more danger through sheer happenstance.
 
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