I would say that light cones prove pretty conclusively that some facts aren't causally entangled. A might cause both B and C, but B and C don't have a direct entanglement, and unless their indirect entanglement is both clear and traceable, you can't use B or C for evidence about each other. I wish this sort of reasoning were more obvious to people; it seems like a basic part of logic.
Sure they are. You can't do much with that, because of the myraid of uncertainty principles, limitations of information gathering, and computational limits, but that doesnt remove the relation. The current state of the universe also has within it the information needed to backdate it; within our light cone of earth, for instance, we know are able to learn that the laws of physics extend backward in time as far as is measurable. As such, the fact that an apple falls on earth is evidence for, and thus related to, an apple falling on planet arbitrary, which is at the exact opposite side of the universal expansion.
That more holes than it solves, though, at least in terms of in series events making sense. The problem here is that speed in series isnt very consistant or scalable, so any model we try and make will break down somewhere.
Yup! Clear and traceable. 'They both use the same laws of physics' is an excellent causal link, in the context of determining both the laws of physics and their likely expressions. You cannot, however, use the fact that 'apples are subject to gravity' as evidence for 'Justin Example is the man who shot the judge', unless you can establish a causal link between the two.
Who with? Jaffur wouldn't be that weird, given prior experience with Synchronicity, and it would give us amazing power synergies - but he's sealed. Jaffur-Jaron has the same issue, and so does asking Grandma. I'm not sure fusing with aliens is even possible, and if it was they would have to come home with us to preserve secrecy, but I suppose Cell's existence suggests that it can work. Anything else?
Multiform apparently needs a body.
I think I remember Poptart Prodigy that there is no theoretical reason why we couldn't use multiform while mind projecting.
Sure you can. Justin example is a person who can only exist in a world where gravity is real, and perhaps more relevantly multicellular life is real. Seeing an apple fall due to gravity vastly limits the probability space as to which universe the event takes place.
Loads of uses. I'd love to fuse with Jaffur for combat (mage + amazing fighter + kaioken / seer + amazing ki user & sensor + IT), but looking back on the quest it could have solved so many more problems. Aside from Jakara (or Kaffur, I'm not picky) kicking dad's ass back in the prologue, we could have fused with Dandelor to easily remove the inside portion of the seel (and then known about the massacre while being an SSj, which could shortcircuit other problems), we could have fused with anyone to render Dazazel irrelevant without need for spirit bomb risk, we could have trivially solved the whole dandeer fight at the end... considering that the dead can use it, it's entirely plausible that a shade could as well so it would have immediate utility there too. Fusing with aliens is definitely possible, too.
Ah, that was the miscommunication! I wasn't using "House Talt tried it" as evidence that it was possibly useful, because my game designer's instincts had already convinced me of that. I was using "House Talt tried it" as evidence that "scrying House Talt is a low-effort way for us to investigate the possibly-useful mysteries of Ascended Super Saiyan".
Probably not - fusion (or at least the fusion dance) only works for people with roughly the same power level, and Jaffur had gotten a Zenkai since ascending. Also it might have looked like SS2, and set off the apocalypse.
Similar issues here, I'm afraid.
Fusing with Grandma probably would have worked, but it'd be only barely less suicidal than SS2. (And only because it requires the consent of two Full-Power Super Saiyans to use.)
Possibly. It certainly seems like we could find one within the right power range. It still raises OPSEC issues regarding the location of Garenhuld, though.
If I recall correctly, Vegerot got transformed into candy and kept fighting - and it seemed like anyone else who can fly could have done the same. Am I wrong about that?
You can alter your power level in order to fuse; your fusion doesn't have to be at your max, just that at the time of fusion both power levels must be the same. Even goten and trunks weren't at exactly the same power level iirc, but there are other examples in any case.
I mean, maximum nightmare scenario is an army of at cap warriors skilled in Tabe's trick and say, the kikoho who use it in it's full suicide technique glory to create a series of blasts that are actually competitive with our power (as it is now), but that seems like something involving way more planning than she would actually go to.
What kind of optimal use of resources would let her beat a spirit bomb? Given the power levels involved, i think we'd have decent odds at making a clean sweep of a planet full of SSj2s, and even that would be basically impossible for her to pull off. I'd be surprised if she even had a single SSj2, honestly, but if she has any it won't be more than the 5 royals, because there isn't really enough time to train up a new batch of people through FPSSj much less get them ascended, comfortable, and not breaking free - not when she also has to design the new wards to make it possible, and deal with any breakaways, etc.
There's this awesome article that hearing the phrase 'deliberately engineered nightmare scenarios' evokes, which is this lovely article on how terrorism is so ineffective. Terrorism-is-not-Effective - Gwern.net
Ah. I clearly remember Gotenks happening because Goten and Trunks were relatively close in power, but again, I'm only familiar with the Zenkai manga.
As someone who's spent multiple-hour stretches making headcanon for someone else's magic system, and has the same instinct for tying off loose ends in stories and game mechanics, I disagree on both counts.
No, no. Please. Continue.
I suspect you're not factoring in mental resource limits. No human uses all of their resources optimally, but most use most of them fairly close to optimally for their actual goals.
We don't know enough of the rules about how magic works to know the answer to that question. Let's not assume that it's impossible for her to do something that she has already done.
A spell calculated to prevent the people of Garenhuld, and in particular the saiyans of Garenhuld, from voluntarily giving us their energy?
Yes, and if you remember the original point that brought all this on...
I don't know what to predict, but we shouldn't just retcon or forget abilities we already know they have.
It's already on the list, but low on the list because we have numerous other things more likely to bear fruit.