Um, yes there is - we found and disabled the limiter on our Sight, remember?
...How exactly is our abilities getting
better a reason to think we will be
LESS able to do the things we used to do, that we did before we were subject to such limitations?
The fact that it's a comprehensible thought is technically evidence. Less pedantically, it seems weird to deliberately design a system where one of the skill-trees leads absolutely nowhere useful, and weird in a way which seems very much out of character for
@PoptartProdigy.
So the evidence basically amounts to metagaming, but it
does exist.
That's not evidence, it's speculation. As noted, Poptart is under no obligation to make every imaginable line of research bear fruit for us. We're expected to use basic common sense and prioritize techniques that are likely to work or that synergize well with what we already have.
Which means, well, we need to employ common sense and
not obsess over forms and techniques that are already horribly, horribly outgunned and overshadowed by the superior form we mastered at the age of
NINE.
Incidentally, why is this argument such a priority to you guys? You're investing what feels like a bizarre amount of effort for... the chance to win an argument? I guess you could also be trying to quash my line of thinking, but that doesn't seem terribly likely.
Personally, I just find it frustrating that you pick
this as a hobbyhorse. Of all the many, many skills and forms we have, this is the one where we have the
least reason to think there's buried treasure.
We know there are ways to increase power level or the effectiveness of our power (Jaffur and Tabe's tricks). We know there are higher forms that we could some day unlock if we could find a secure location to train them. We know almost
every single one of our combat skills could be materially improved or enhanced in some way. We know our Sight can be honed into a powerful weapon. We know that the Oozaru form represents only slightly explored potential, more than our ancestors or even the Z fighters themselves realized. We know that we are woefully,
woefully lacking in Style training, though that's a tough problem to solve when all the masters of our particular style are slaves on Garenhuld.
But for some reason you keep circling back to ASSJ and USSJ, two forms that appeared in a single story arc (the Android/Cell Saga), and which were
explicitly outclassed
within that very arc by Goku and Gohan attaining the FPSSJ form. When the only known instance of anyone using them in the game continuity resulted in them being
butchered by a pair of FPSSJs, one of whom was a child, probably little or no better at fighting than we are now, despite having massive numerical superiority.
It's just... it's frustrating, because you keep bringing it up over and over as if these conversations we were having about it weren't even happening. And because you seem to have singled out the
least effective technique possible for us to research, out of all the dozens of things we could train in or use our Sight to get information on. The one technique where we have gotten not even a
hint that there's anything there to find beyond the obvious, where
in the prologue and backstory we were told that the only group to seriously explore the form in modern times was horribly killed and failed miserably despite having several advantages.
Almost anything else we could do, would seem a more efficient use of our time.
If you really want to find a useful way to apply Sight to our ongoing power-up researches, why not advocate for us using Pastsight to scry on the Cell Games and try to work out how Cell did Perfect Multiform? Or more generally on Tien's use of Multiform? Perfect Multiform is an ability we've been seeking for a long time, one that would have
trivialized the battle with Dandeer, one where we've encountered persistent setbacks and interruptions in our researches despite having already made partial progress. Why not focus on
that?
So I'm planning to write in an option to Pastsight (or possibly Helldive) the Talts to see if they had any insights into USSJ next time we get a research period. Feel free to vote for or against it then. Sound good?
Typically, QMs don't just let you research infinity topics freely. The more things you research, the less progress you make on any one thing. We're not going to be able to satisfactorily investigate what abilities the Talts mastered in a single Sight session, if only because we'd need to observe many of them for an extended period to be sure we'd seen everything they knew.
This would distract us from other researches that, on a per-hour-invested and per-vision-used basis, are far more likely to bear fruit.
Plus there's the risk of our Sight steering us to the
killing of House Talt, which was horrific enough to traumatize both Lord Vegeta and Raditz Senzu for life. I don't want Kakara getting an eyeful of that slaughter.
