Dragon Ball: After the End
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Doesn't help if she was preinformed what we would do. To change the future, we need a vision.
She isn't Contessa. Predicting the future is hard for even the best seers and she's vulnerable right now specifically because she didn't get enough warning about the ball to do more than close her eyes.
If you really want to use a vision, project into her mind and start blasting everything. That might even be the best outcome. Turning the Vegetan into a vegetable isn't technically killing her.
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
If a sorceress who trades in mind control and who is so utterly bullshit about it doesn't have mental wards that could crush anyone attempting anything like that, up to and very possibly including Kakara's projection, I would be surprised.
Also, "brain-dead but technically still showing signs of life" probably isn't a sufficient technicality to bypass the no-killing rule.
-hence why I advocate just punching her face in, but if the thread insists on a vision it had better be one with the potential for immediate effect.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Alright, I'll open this tomorrow morning. Can anybody with write-in ideas post them before then? It'll help with parsing them.
- Location
- Australia
[] Reiatsu
Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
- Location
-
Huh.
I wonder what happens if Jaffur uses Synchronity on dad.
I mean, it got past one seal, why not another?
I wonder what happens if Jaffur uses Synchronity on dad.
I mean, it got past one seal, why not another?
- Location
- USA
@PoptartProdigy how long does Kakara think it would take to get up to a high enough PL via Spirit Saiyan to quickly defeat the controlled royals? As a ballpark for PL, let's say 4x their power?
And is this by her subjective time or Dandeer's subjective time? The massive difference in PL should cause a noticeable difference in the subjective passage of time, so it might be worth it if we're getting like 2x the time Dandeer is.
And is this by her subjective time or Dandeer's subjective time? The massive difference in PL should cause a noticeable difference in the subjective passage of time, so it might be worth it if we're getting like 2x the time Dandeer is.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
it's currently berra against us apra and jaffur for several seconds right?
[] Project yourself into Berra's mind and have jaffur burn out the magics on him through you. hopefully you should have the time.
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
Let's try this:
[] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-ragemonkey Saiyans on Dandeer's side.
-[] As she does, IT Jaffur and ourselves to the most advantageous position to strike at Dandeer from
-[] Attack Dandeer to incapacitate
--[] If pressed, Jaffur will prioritize defending Kakara as Kakara attempts to incapacitate
If we ask Apra to do the shout, we won't split our attention. I am fairly confident that she also has a fighting technique to compensate for her split attention (such as going primarily defensive).
IT will get Jaffur and Kakara to the position they judge best to attack from, and then Jaffur can make sure Kakara gets her shot. If Jaffur doesn't need to (which I doubt, since Berra literally taught Kakara this trick) he can join in on the beatdown.
The point here is to use our link to get us a solid shot at Dandeer, while simultaneously distracting her and disrupting her supposed link with a powerful Seer. It also keeps Jaffur away from actually attacking his mother (which I can only assume would increase his trauma, as he realized that hurting her doesn't actually do anything to fix the issues he has). It also sidesteps the 'make Jaffur live out his revenge fantasies' that I initially suggested. That would have been a better distraction for her, but risked more damage to Jaffur.
[] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-ragemonkey Saiyans on Dandeer's side.
-[] As she does, IT Jaffur and ourselves to the most advantageous position to strike at Dandeer from
-[] Attack Dandeer to incapacitate
--[] If pressed, Jaffur will prioritize defending Kakara as Kakara attempts to incapacitate
If we ask Apra to do the shout, we won't split our attention. I am fairly confident that she also has a fighting technique to compensate for her split attention (such as going primarily defensive).
IT will get Jaffur and Kakara to the position they judge best to attack from, and then Jaffur can make sure Kakara gets her shot. If Jaffur doesn't need to (which I doubt, since Berra literally taught Kakara this trick) he can join in on the beatdown.
The point here is to use our link to get us a solid shot at Dandeer, while simultaneously distracting her and disrupting her supposed link with a powerful Seer. It also keeps Jaffur away from actually attacking his mother (which I can only assume would increase his trauma, as he realized that hurting her doesn't actually do anything to fix the issues he has). It also sidesteps the 'make Jaffur live out his revenge fantasies' that I initially suggested. That would have been a better distraction for her, but risked more damage to Jaffur.
- Location
- Italy
@PoptartProdigy also how long would the power-up last? A few minutes? An hour? As long as we don't use it in a big blast? Could we continue charging it later if we had reason to, or would we need to consume the stored power first?
I'm kind of against visions right now. We have only a few seconds, it's hard to think of a vision that can give us enough informations to be usefull in such a short time. Spirit Saiyan is more immediately usefull, if we can gather enough power.
Dandeer would probably be able to survive a direct attack, though it might distract her and/or consume a few of her defensive wards, so it wouldn't be completely useless.
I LOVE the "telepathic scream" idea. Oddball for the win! (we might very well have that trait evolve after this fight. We're coming up with a lot of unorthodox ideas after all, AND THEY'RE WORKING!)
By the way, i was thinking: do we KNOW that Vegeta maxed out the basic Oozaru form?
If he can't control it, he probably didn't train it.
If he didn't train it, it might actually be A LOT weaker than at his cap. After all, it's power level is completely separate from his normal strenght, isn't it?
I remember that it's easy to train up to 10x his PL when very weak, and then up to 2x base form PL, but i don't think it's automatically stronger than is base form. Might actually be weaker in his case if he never bothered.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
If this is the case, then assuming we don't KO Dandeer this round then we might want to take the time to KO him next round while he's berserking and we can do so trivially, before his transformation runs out and he changes back to a FPSSJ? We could probably manage that fairly easily - Berra can't defend both him and Dandeer, especially when he's mindlessly raging and not staying back.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Your charge time is limited by how quickly other people can give you ki, not by your perception of time. Thus, it depends on how good your pitch is.
Apra is currently fighting Yammar, but otherwise yes.
Depends on how you use it. As a blast, it goes instantly. Against Dazarel, it lasted a long time, but then, Dazarel wasn't a real challenge at that point. For other use cases, Kakara doesn't know.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Alright, Vote's Open. In addition to the default options-
-we have some write-in suggestions. As before, feel free to form a plan from any vote options, and bear in mind that we're working on the scale of seconds, here. Joining our list from those write-ins (with explanations):
[ ] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
Don't bother traversing the intervening space conventionally; take advantage of your opponents' inability to make snap judgments and just IT to take down Dandeer directly.
[ ] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage.
Get the non-magic Senzus to contribute by trying to drown out telepathic communications to Dandeer. Hinders her ability to coordinate and concentrate in addition to cutting any potential Seer advice.
[ ] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side.
As above, but Apra does it instead of the Senzus, and does it for Dandeer's entire (mentally competent) side.
[ ] Write-in: Use the sheer force of your aura to incapacitate Dandeer. Given the golden oozaru-grade carpet bombing between you and her, this necessarily involves getting through to her first.
Kakara will close to point-blank range and then use her aura specifically to put down Dandeer in lieu of any other method.
[ ] Project yourself into Berra's mind and have Jaffur burn out the magics on him through you. hopefully you should have the time.
Bank on Synchronicity allowing Jaffur to target spells through your Sight, and use this moment to try and get your Dad on-side. High-risk (you don't actually know if shared Sight data counts as line-of-sight), but extremely high-reward.
[ ] If pressed, Jaffur will prioritize defending Kakara as Kakara attempts to incapacitate Dandeer.
Tactics write-in, explicitly detailing that Jaffur should be the one to run interference if necessary while Kakara remains focused on the goal.
I have struck a couple of write-ins.
Have fun, folks!
[ ] This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you watching for an opening, and this coordinated, you'll find an opening. When you do, go straight for Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
[ ] Your Sight is clearer than it's ever been. Visions are coming incredibly easily, and you have far more than a paltry one a day. Vision, now.
-[ ] Specify what.
[ ] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
[ ] You don't know what's going on with Sensei Carrick, but you can't take any chances. Start contacting every Seer you can sense and order them to do anything they can to disrupt his visions since that's a thing Seers can apparently do.
[ ] Now that people are mostly out of the Hall and out from under the line of fire, you have an opportunity. Contact Head Raditz and have him start organizing people for a fight. He'll do more good preparing a tide of angry saiyan reinforcements than any direct action.
[ ] Your Sight is clearer than it's ever been. Visions are coming incredibly easily, and you have far more than a paltry one a day. Vision, now.
-[ ] Specify what.
[ ] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
[ ] You don't know what's going on with Sensei Carrick, but you can't take any chances. Start contacting every Seer you can sense and order them to do anything they can to disrupt his visions since that's a thing Seers can apparently do.
[ ] Now that people are mostly out of the Hall and out from under the line of fire, you have an opportunity. Contact Head Raditz and have him start organizing people for a fight. He'll do more good preparing a tide of angry saiyan reinforcements than any direct action.
-we have some write-in suggestions. As before, feel free to form a plan from any vote options, and bear in mind that we're working on the scale of seconds, here. Joining our list from those write-ins (with explanations):
[ ] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
Don't bother traversing the intervening space conventionally; take advantage of your opponents' inability to make snap judgments and just IT to take down Dandeer directly.
[ ] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage.
Get the non-magic Senzus to contribute by trying to drown out telepathic communications to Dandeer. Hinders her ability to coordinate and concentrate in addition to cutting any potential Seer advice.
[ ] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side.
As above, but Apra does it instead of the Senzus, and does it for Dandeer's entire (mentally competent) side.
[ ] Write-in: Use the sheer force of your aura to incapacitate Dandeer. Given the golden oozaru-grade carpet bombing between you and her, this necessarily involves getting through to her first.
Kakara will close to point-blank range and then use her aura specifically to put down Dandeer in lieu of any other method.
[ ] Project yourself into Berra's mind and have Jaffur burn out the magics on him through you. hopefully you should have the time.
Bank on Synchronicity allowing Jaffur to target spells through your Sight, and use this moment to try and get your Dad on-side. High-risk (you don't actually know if shared Sight data counts as line-of-sight), but extremely high-reward.
[ ] If pressed, Jaffur will prioritize defending Kakara as Kakara attempts to incapacitate Dandeer.
Tactics write-in, explicitly detailing that Jaffur should be the one to run interference if necessary while Kakara remains focused on the goal.
I have struck a couple of write-ins.
[ ] Write-in: Use your combined strength to get past Lord Berra and strike at Dandeer. He can't keep up area blasts between you and Dandeer, while changing into an oozaru, and defend himself effectively.
[ ] Write-in: Use your combined strength to get past Lord Vegeta and strike at Dandeer. Vegeta may be transforming into a regular oozaru- if so, he's too weak and far too slow to block you effectively. Even if he isn't, well, Jaffur's been waiting for this for a long time.
[ ] Write-in: Use your combined strength to get past Lord Vegeta and strike at Dandeer. As a berserk regular oozaru, Vegeta is too weak, too uncontrolled, and far too slow to stop you.
Kakara will automatically choose a path which gets her to Dandeer as quickly as possible, should you elect to charge. Specifying is redundant with the default option to charge.
[ ] Write-in: Use your combined strength to get past Lord Vegeta and strike at Dandeer. Vegeta may be transforming into a regular oozaru- if so, he's too weak and far too slow to block you effectively. Even if he isn't, well, Jaffur's been waiting for this for a long time.
[ ] Write-in: Use your combined strength to get past Lord Vegeta and strike at Dandeer. As a berserk regular oozaru, Vegeta is too weak, too uncontrolled, and far too slow to stop you.
Kakara will automatically choose a path which gets her to Dandeer as quickly as possible, should you elect to charge. Specifying is redundant with the default option to charge.
Have fun, folks!
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
[X] This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you watching for an opening, and this coordinated, you'll find an opening. When you do, go straight for Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
[X] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage.
"Hey, Ancestor Cult! Dandeer is trying to brainwash us royals into being her slaves. I'm trying to stop her, and I need your energy!"
Short, simple, to the point, and factually correct. It's not all the power on Garenhuld, but it's enough or this purpose.
[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
[X] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage.
I think in this case our sales pitch is:
"Hey, Ancestor Cult! Dandeer is trying to brainwash us royals into being her slaves. I'm trying to stop her, and I need your energy!"
Short, simple, to the point, and factually correct. It's not all the power on Garenhuld, but it's enough or this purpose.
- Location
- Italy
so, we could:
1)attack directly
2)attack directly with IT
3)charge Spirit Saiyan
4)try sorcery through shared sight (don't like it, too risky)
5)visions (too little time for them in my opinion. I'm also not sure what should we look for)
6)call the army (No. Just No.)
while in the meanwhile have Apra Or random saiyan mooks drown Dandeer in telepathic noise. Or have the seers disrupt visions.
I think I'll go with
[x] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
[x] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side.
and
[x] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage.
Might decide to only vote for one of the two later on
1)attack directly
2)attack directly with IT
3)charge Spirit Saiyan
4)try sorcery through shared sight (don't like it, too risky)
5)visions (too little time for them in my opinion. I'm also not sure what should we look for)
6)call the army (No. Just No.)
while in the meanwhile have Apra Or random saiyan mooks drown Dandeer in telepathic noise. Or have the seers disrupt visions.
I think I'll go with
[x] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
[x] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side.
and
[x] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage.
Might decide to only vote for one of the two later on
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- Location
- Italy
Shouldn't this be put in a block with one of the attack options? I think that like this it would be voted by itself, as in "we drown her in telepathic noise, and do nothing else".
Or have i misunderstood how the tally is done?
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
[X] This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you watching for an opening, and this coordinated, you'll find an opening. When you do, go straight for Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
@PoptartProdigy :
Can we add the "blanket Dandeer with noise" thing as a subvote? I'm imagining, say, first asking the Senzus to do this, then IT-ing to Dandeer while she's distracted and hopefully bereft of external advice if she's getting any.
Or would the correct thing to do to be to vote "blanket Dandeer with noise" in this update, then vote for something else in the next one.
Can we add the "blanket Dandeer with noise" thing as a subvote? I'm imagining, say, first asking the Senzus to do this, then IT-ing to Dandeer while she's distracted and hopefully bereft of external advice if she's getting any.
Or would the correct thing to do to be to vote "blanket Dandeer with noise" in this update, then vote for something else in the next one.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Wait wait wait, hold on, folks.
I'm seeing a lot of votes structured like this:
[ ] words.
[ ] more words.
[ ] continued words.
If you're trying to form a plan with these votes, you need to put it in plan format. Like so:
[ ] Plan name.
-[ ] words.
-[ ] more words.
-[ ] continued words.
Otherwise the tally will read these all as separate votes unrelated to one another. Now, if that's your intention, well and good, but I wanted to be sure.
I'll leave this threadmark up for a bit to make sure everybody knows.
I'm seeing a lot of votes structured like this:
[ ] words.
[ ] more words.
[ ] continued words.
If you're trying to form a plan with these votes, you need to put it in plan format. Like so:
[ ] Plan name.
-[ ] words.
-[ ] more words.
-[ ] continued words.
Otherwise the tally will read these all as separate votes unrelated to one another. Now, if that's your intention, well and good, but I wanted to be sure.
I'll leave this threadmark up for a bit to make sure everybody knows.
If you want to vote for it all this update, you vote for it as a sub-vote. If you want to blanket her with noise, wait to observe the effect, and then break for voting based on whatever the results of that are, then you just vote to blanket her. We're going very fine-grained on this.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I wasn't trying to form a plan, I was trying to approval vote. But I may set up a plan soon.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
[X] Plan Attack Under Jamming
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
There are other things I might vote for if approval voting is allowed, which I figure it is, but there you go.
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
There are other things I might vote for if approval voting is allowed, which I figure it is, but there you go.
- Location
- Italy
[X] Plan Charge it now!
-[X] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side. THEN...
--[X] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
i choose Apra here because i'm not sure if after giving us Ki normal saiyans might be too weak to use telepathy as well as they normally could. It is a ki skill after all.
[X] Plan Attack Under Jamming
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
i nearly posted my version with a different name, but as it's already there...
since when does one excludes the other ?
-[X] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side. THEN...
--[X] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
i choose Apra here because i'm not sure if after giving us Ki normal saiyans might be too weak to use telepathy as well as they normally could. It is a ki skill after all.
[X] Plan Attack Under Jamming
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
i nearly posted my version with a different name, but as it's already there...
since when does one excludes the other ?
nkd1325
KNIGHT OF ORANGE
- Location
- AT HIS MAJESTY'S SIDE
[X] Plan Attack Under Jamming
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
Not much to say. Overload the comms and then OHKO her.
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
Not much to say. Overload the comms and then OHKO her.