He wants to kill Janna's friend, first and foremost, and we kinda want to recruit Star, as she's a good person, probably gets a friend Bonus with Janna, and has a good occult score.
Why do people keep assuming that Star is good at Occult? She's good at blowing shit up with magic (aka Martial), but from what I've seen of the show (up to season 3) doesn't actually know very much at all about magic history/theory/etc (actual Occult related stuff).
 
Why do people keep assuming that Star is good at Occult? She's good at blowing shit up with magic (aka Martial), but from what I've seen of the show (up to season 3) doesn't actually know very much at all about magic history/theory/etc (actual Occult related stuff).

The same reason why high martial means your a great fighter and commander without a trait to split the difference.

You cannot use magic without an occult score. The score automatically includes magic ability and magic knowledge unless said otherwise. In many cases, magic knowledge is 1:1 with power.

I'm willing to believe that Star stepped up her brain game after her life went to Mewni.
 
Also, I think in DVV: Gridlocked, as part of his victory, he actually overthrew the Mewni government, maybe, meaning he potentially killed one of her friends entire family.

Also, like, we are pretty sure Star is in our territory, but, like, for all we know she's actually homeless at the moment. How many connections outside of Toffe's territory does she have? I'm guessing not a lot.

He's also not done with her, if I recall right the setting doc's made it clear that part of the reason he's staying on earth is because he knows it's the hiding spot of the royal family in exile, aka Star, and he did run out of the Vegas party the second the girl we think is Star showed up on the news.

So, to sum things up, he might have killed her friends family, definitely overthrew the family, stole her friends magic wand, attacked and hurt her friend, potentially made her friend homeless, and is still trying to hunt her down right at this very moment.

That's just Star by the way, it's not like she's the only character in the show Janna likes. Who knows who else Toffee hurt in the process of all of that.

If I was her I would hate this guy, basically the only thing that would be stopping me from trying to murder him is the fact that Toffe is, seemingly, immortal.
 
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What's interesting is that even with -50 that only bring her to enough to bring us to -10 which according to the lore post that is not even enough for her to hate us (which seems to start at -25). That makes me think that while taking the deal makes her mad at us, She left more over thinking we are a lost cause then her hating us.
If you're reading that as (current Loyalty)= (previous loyalty)-50 and not (current loyalty)= -50, I suppose, but I read it the other way.
 
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Wait, is there a magical auction in our future, not just the alternate timeline? Because I really want there to be a magical auction in our future.

Sidenote, but I can't help but feel like there's a Negaverse omake to be made regarding the latest interlude.
 
Ooh, immortal enemies are fun.

You get to get evil with them.

We do have the plans for that terraforming equipment lying around. Could whip up a Volcano-inator to make a place to drop him.

Anyway, as for cards, Kida, Milo Thatch, and Rourke from Atlantis would be neat.

Has the Atlantis thing gone down in Gridlocked?
 
Ooh, immortal enemies are fun.

You get to get evil with them.

We do have the plans for that terraforming equipment lying around. Could whip up a Volcano-inator to make a place to drop him.

Anyway, as for cards, Kida, Milo Thatch, and Rourke from Atlantis would be neat.

Has the Atlantis thing gone down in Gridlocked?
Cheshire Cat, and Shan Yu.

Atlantis is part of DVV Classic, as are Alice in Wonderland and Mulan. I'm working on a post to answer frequently asked questions about the setting, but the general rule of thumb is if it's set before WWII, it's Classic, if it's set after, it's Gridlocked. There are exceptions like Up, which is technically set in the modern day, but since it thematically fits with the themes of HIGH ADVENTURE rather than corporate skullduggery it's been regaled to the classic setting.
 
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The same reason why high martial means your a great fighter and commander without a trait to split the difference.

You cannot use magic without an occult score. The score automatically includes magic ability and magic knowledge unless said otherwise. In many cases, magic knowledge is 1:1 with power.

I'm willing to believe that Star stepped up her brain game after her life went to Mewni.
That really doesn't contradict my point that Star is probably another Martial-heavy hero. Obviously she has an Occult score, but people are assuming (like you are, in suggesting she might have upped her brain game when things went south) that she has a high score in complete contradiction to her canon showing.

Martial is a reflection of how good you are in a fight, be it smashing face or coordinating the face smashing.
Occult is a reflection of your knowledge of magic, and probably prowess. Star...doesn't really know a lot about magic, and while being exceptionally powerful as a mage at the same time she has a very shallow grasp of spells (see: not knowing how to levitate things, an entry level spell).
 
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Wait, is there a magical auction in our future, not just the alternate timeline? Because I really want there to be a magical auction in our future.

Yep, one of the items that we know for a fact will be up for auction is the Encantus, which is, uhhh, if it's even if half as good as the one in the movie it's broken good.

Much like other spellbooks in other fantasy fictions, the Encantus contains instructions on how to perform supernatural charms, spells, and also how to create magical objects such as amulets and talismans. But unlike typical spellbooks however, the Encantus itself magically records the art, history, and science of sorcery (including both past struggles between benevolent Merlineans' and wicked Morganians), implied having omniscience properties. All known Encanti are the copies of the original textbook of the same name.

I want it desperately.
 
As far as doof cards...

The rescuers.

Herbie.

Popeye.

Popeye might seem weird but there was a live action one in the 80s it looks like Disney was involved in. Not sure if it counts but we got Warner bros cartoons so I'm hopeful.
 
Hey, lookit me! I'm in Guys and Dolls!

Me: (singing with backup dancers)
And as I laughed at the warnings and the signs, (*maniacal laughter*)
it turned out that Janna had joined and turned Xanatos!
(Oh~ no~!)
And as Doofania fell,
and I hollered, "Someone save me!"
That's the moment I woke up!
Thank the Lord~!
(Thank the Lord! Tha~nk the~ Lor~d!)
Then I said to myself, "Say no! (Say no!)
Say no to the lizard man!" (Say~ no! Say no!)
I said to myself, "Say no!
Say no to the lizard man!
'Cause Janna's acting weirdly,
and if I don't shit'll hit the fan!
Say no! Say no! Say no! Say no!
Say no to the lizard man!"
(Say~ no! Say no!
Say no to the lizard man!
Say~ no! Say no!
Say no to the lizard man!)
Say no! Say no! Say no! Say no!
Say no to the lizard man!
Say no! Say no! Say no! Say no!
Say no to the lizard man!
Say no! Say no! Say no! Say no!
Say no to the lizard man!
Say no! Say no! Say no! Say no!
Say no to the lizard man!
Say NO~~~~!!!
(Say no! To the liz! Ard MAAAAAAAAAAAN~~~~!!!!!)
Never I will never say no to lizard men
 
Ooh, immortal enemies are fun.

You get to get evil with them.

We do have the plans for that terraforming equipment lying around. Could whip up a Volcano-inator to make a place to drop him.

My plan, once we take the wand off of him and take back however much magic we can, is literally to just shoot him into the sun.

If you have an immortal, vicious, untrustworthy, high intrigue, high martial monster that hates you, do not mess around.

Do we use if for ourselves or do we give it to Janna and (possibly) Star before us?

Definitely let Janna and possibly Star study it, those two having a higher Occult score can only be a good thing, possibly ourselves and maybe even Ludivine???

It depends on how much people want Doof specifically to know magic, but I want to start to a magic school, and for that we need teachers. I adore Janna and Star, I do, but, uh, can't see Janna writing a textbook or teaching a class. Ludivine Von Drake, as opposed to all of our other High Learning hero's who are all scientists, is specifically a scholar, so if anyone can set up a whole new system of education it would be her.

Doof, I could go either way on personally knowing magic.
 
That really doesn't contradict my point that Star is probably another Martial-heavy hero. Obviously she has an Occult score, but people are assuming (like you are, in suggesting she might have upped her brain game when things went south) that she has a high score in complete contradiction to her canon showing.

Martial is a reflection of how good you are in a fight, be it smashing face or coordinating the face smashing.
Occult is a reflection of your knowledge of magic, and probably prowess. Star...doesn't really know a lot about magic, and while being exceptionally powerful as a mage and at the same time has a very shallow grasp of spells (see: not knowing how to levitate things, an entry level spell).
Okay, she may not be the highest scoring in terms of occult. She'll still probably have an occult in the 20's and offer us insight into the different dimensions. Occult covers knowledge of magic stuff as well as knowing how to cast. Heck she might even still have her old pair of dimensional scissors which alone would be worth looking for her. And if she can figure out "dip down" she becomes a magical powerhouse of the highest degree. Like "I'd give her decent odds of out martialing Ghengis or even Shego if she got that figured out" levels of sheer power.
 
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Aa for Rolodex characters, well. Rippen and Larry from Penn Zero spring to mind. Maybe Pacifica Northwest to continue the trend of side-characters with poor stats and ties to the main plot. Any of the Clones from Clone High (particularly, teenage Khan) would be interesting additions to the Doof Troop.
 
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So seeing the current topic of discussion. Should we lay off in buying any companies to save money? The only company that we need right now is Lee Industries which will unlocked Janus Lee who is a good Diplomacy Hero and may lower the DC of Dinosaur related actions. The problem is the warning to spend our money wisely comes from Xanatos who I am pretty sure know what our financial condition actually is and if that guy tell us to lay off big spending we need to consider it seriously. Thoughts?
 
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