Personally I'd really like to improve our PMC and Normbots before we go doing stuff like that, especially with that anti-cape AI

Unfortunately we're probably a few steps away from reliably being able to do that
I mean, Sinatron has 6 capes, no armies, and no real way of garnering the cash to hire more. The money at the Sands was explicitly chump change at the level the Kings operate at.

Now Syndrome's assets outside of Vegas should be more intact but Sinatron doesn't necessarily have access to those and the distinct lack of Syndrome should throw any defense into chaos. There's a vulnerable power vacuum we have a limited time to fill before someone else does. The key here is bodies on the ground to occupy land, and we have more than Sinatron or Syndrome by spades to put to that task.
 
I think people need to remember that DDV:gridlock is comparable with Shadowrun. It's less kingdoms owning territory and more megacorporations having influence over a area. Nothing actually stops us from doing business in or traveling through our rivals territories.

You only have a problem if you start building armies and assaulting their bases and such. All of the "kings", a better term in my opinion would be rivals, agree that keeping the masquerade of the Government being in control is better then ruling outright. The Government still has claws and will use them.

Trying to Annex more of the USA will weaken the masquerade further. You can expand the reach of the company, but don't try to expand Doofania. Don't threaten the masquerade as that tempts the wrath of the other Kings and what remains of the US Government.

The only reason Doof got away with it in my opinion is that everyone underestimates him and he hasn't really tried changing how things work. For the common people It's really just treated as a eccentric pharmacist pretending to be a dictator while giving everyone in his "kingdom" free food for following him on social media, paying their taxes, and etcetera. people don't even consider his territory as a different nation or recognize his succeeding from the union.

The thing with Sinatron though is his attempt to succeed from the Union won't be considered a joke or be seen as a eccentric quirk. His attempt to succeed on a global live-stream threatened the masquerade as he's a rogue A.I. that just assaulted his "creator". He just pissed off the Government and they will retaliate, but if Doof raises a army and crush him it adds the break in the masquerade. The best course would be to let the US Government handle it and/or send in a hit squad.
 
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Syndrome should have a dozen broken bones, so unless he has Elysium levels of healing tech( wouldn't count it out) then he won't be doing much for a while
 
Syndrome should have a dozen broken bones, so unless he has Elysium levels of healing tech( wouldn't count it out) then he won't be doing much for a while
He also has limited non-robotic backup. I can see a Super or the family of a Super that he killed deciding they can't risk him waking up again.
 
Actually, and this is mildly off topic here, I almost forgot because of how long the interlude was, but we haven't gotten back the results on how:


[ ]Plan: Dinosaur Castle Fighters
-[ ] Combat organized crime
-[ ] Reach out to Xanatos
-[ ] Attempt a Hostile Corporate Takeover
--[ ] Insuricare
-[ ] Investigate Echo Creek
-[ ] Bring Back The Dinosaurs
--[ ] No Feathers
-[ ] Research Flubber
-[ ] Study Historical Magic Systems

Hmm.... do you guys think that this sudden Giant Baking Soda Volcano (capitalization necessary) that's popped up in our territory could be the result of a failure in combating organized crime?
Given that we tasked Genghis Khan to the action, I would be very surprised if we got a Critical Failure given that we're starting from a +12+55 or +13+55 on the die roll. Then again, this may just be a low-scoring failure. :p

Erhm... mysterious forces combating each other aside, if we attribute this sudden Giant Baking Soda Volcano to one of those three mysterious forces, that would at least give us a direction to go towards in looking into where it came from. Said direction being right at what remains of organized crime in Doofania. Even if we don't find the perpetrator or a lead to finding them by investigating/cracking down on organized crime in Doofania, at the very least we can finally stomp that out, so it's a better place to start than anything. Well, aside from investigating the Giant Baking Soda Volcano itself, but we can multi-task.
We certainly shouldn't continue to tolerate large numbers of mysterious forces simultaneously operating in Doofania. That's a recipe for disasters even worse than Giant Baking Soda Volcano!

We do, however, have the ability to assemble a rudimentary profile of the perpetrator(s) based on the skills/know-how they would need to possess to pull this off in the first place.

New Most Hated Enemy TBA Profile-inator
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[salutes]

Our New Most Hated Enemy TBA, or NMHETBA for short, likely fits the following requirements based on what we've seen here.

1a. A high intrigue stat + high Learning stat-

[*]We were not at the Gala for more than a day to attend it and get back at shortest. Maybe Away for a day to get to Vegas and then a day to go to the Gala and do the heist. If we want to be utterly pessimistic, then at maximum 3 Days spent away from Doofania is the amount of time that NMHETBA would have to set up the Giant Baking Soda Volcano and create the giant ants to go with it. They probably had a high enough intrigue stat to either set this up under our noses or get into our territory with all their necessary equipment if their learning is high enough to make something powerful enough to not need extensive set up and transport. Get in, do their message, get out.
Hypothesis: This may have been the work of an enemy quest/heist. That is to say, a coordinated team operation by multiple hero units working together to combine their strengths, making it easier to overcome high event DCs and excel in multiple areas such as Learning and Intrigue.

2. NMHETBA likely did this via Learning based means instead of Occult ones-

[*]I mean, Giant Baking Soda Volcanos staples of science in general. Also, what kind of spell summons a giant baking soda volcano instead of a real one? Also, there are giant ants and not giant magical terrordeath beasts or whatever magical monstrosity you can think of. For an occult based villain, why would you go for up-sizing ants versus summoning something more effective and terrifying? It just feels too... basic and science-y to be the work of someone with literal arcane power at their finger tips.
True. I'm sure a magician could have done this, but it seems unlikely that something so seemingly mundane would be their chosen method of operation if they were already accustomed to solving problems by magical needs.

3. Not Doom Approved-

[*]This action is far too toon like for Doom to ever willingly stoop to much less support. If he wants to get back at Doof, there are plenty of other ways to do it. Go after his employees or his employee's loved ones. Mickey and Donald are somewhere out there and I wouldn't put it above Doom to find them to use as a hostage with a threat to Dip them included if he ever wanted to really Kick the Dog in the form of going after us through Goofy. Something like that is far more up Doom's ally as a way to antagonize us if albeit something I can't see him doing unless he's ever in a position where he's desperate for some form of leverage against us. The potential worldwide backlash from such an action would make it not worth it as anything but a last resort threat. Right now Doom probably just thinks of us as an highly annoying toon ally more than anything resembling an actual threat to him. Although he has spent quite a few actions on trying to sabatoge or get dirt on us... so we might be higher on his threat list than I thought or Doom has enough freetime on his hands for vanity actions to crush hope for toons even if they escape the hell he's been trying to turn his territory into, and doesn't appreciate a safe haven popping up so close to him.
Ehhhh. Remember that Doom sent Sleazy the Weasel, a toon "assassin," to 'send a message' using a pistol with a 'BANG' flag.

Doom's not above using 'toony' antics against enemies as a false flag operation.

4. Maybe a toon or at least shenanigans prone-

[*]This entire set up reeks of being a hilarious joke at Doof's expense. It doesn't look like anyone got hurt so far and all that has been done is add a giant hated structure that mocks Doof's past trauma to the landscape. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the ants were unintentional and just caught up in a Growth Ray or something when the Giant Baking Soda Volcano was enlarged.
All quite possible. Note that we haven't heard from the Inquinator for a few turns; it may well be that he laid low to break contact for a while and then set this in motion somehow. Or found someone else to help him do it.

5. Knows of Doof's history with baking soda volcanos. Or at least that he hates them. Which happens to be the only thing Alonzo Hawk learned about Doof when he investigated him for Doom.

[*]Not a particularly hard thing to find out, what with Doof's penchant for loudly cursing out his grievances, but looking into who Alonzo could have sold his information about Doof's baking soda volcano fixation to might be worthwhile. Although since we were able to intercept most of the information supposed to go to him, who's to say the baking soda volcano information couldn't have been intercepted as well? If we're going by the idea that a toon might be behind this, a large amount of Toon Villains have just moved into Doom's territory and are starting up a permanent outfit. Doing an insult like this to Doof might be these toon villains attempt to get slightly on Doom's goodside.... for like 0.5 seconds. It's unlikely that these are our perps.
Notice that if we're seriously willing to consider the hypothesis that someone working for Doom put in motion a plan to do this to us indirectly, we should be seriously willing to consider a hypothesis that cuts out the middleman and has Alonzo Hawk himself do this directly, with or without Judge Doom's approval?

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What's going to happen to Syndrome? I mean sure his nation was taken over by his own creation but what's going to happen now?

Is he..... recruitable? Able to be led on? Exchange tech for resources?
Remember, legally, Syndrome is still the leader of Kronos Corporation. Assuming he can escape Sinatron's immediate clutches, he's got plenty of resources and bases that officially belong to him.

The only scenarios in which he doesn't remain a player (if a weakened player) is if Sinatron kills him outright, or if he's coerced into signing over everything to Sinatron and if this is somehow accepted by all his employees and so on.

It's definitely possible but you also have to consider that Hegos loyalty gets a +10 just from him believing that nobody is truly evil, another +5 just from Doof being a really good boss and a bonus from letting him go off and be a hero last turn plus it's possible we could get a little extra loyalty from him from establishing better relations with his sister
OK, but we just saw Sinatron flip a bunch of Shego's minions with relative ease, and I doubt that Voyd (for instance) had a big stack of negative loyalty modifiers for working with Shego originally.

The point is, we shouldn't assume that it would be easier for the leaders of a 'heroic' resistances against the 'evil' Doof to turn Hego against us than it was for, say, Sinatron to turn Shego's mercenary supers against us.

For actions like "crush the resistance," you really really want a comparatively amoral hero unit. Someone like Mirage or Genghis Khan.

He would need to either find out about Doofs Mountain-out-of-a-molehill Inator and steal it or invent his own and transport it to Doofania and be willing to go through with such a Toonlike plan
Again, it bears remembering that Doom has already engaged in toonlike plots against us- as a false flag operation.

I will be very surprised to find Syndrome survived the night.
Consider:

Syndrome's human, non-robotic security forces had at least a few minutes of free time during which Sinatron was busy chasing us and all his supers were chasing us too. This would have been a very good time for them to grab Syndrome's unconscious body, put him in the back of a flying car, and get him the hell out of there.

Even if this did not happen, Sinatron desperately needs resources. His money is limited- more so than he thought! He has no recognized legal ownership of anything. He has the loyalty, for now, of a group of supers who have a proven track record of deserting their employer whenever anyone else offers them a bigger paycheck. After all, that's how they ended up working for him.

Sinatron's only remaining 'ace in the hole' is that he has Syndrome in his power. Ransoming Syndrome back out of his own custody may be the only way for him to obtain enough money or resources to remain in control of Las Vegas. As such, he needs Syndrome alive, at least for long enough to figure out another plan that doesn't involve ransoming Syndrome.

He also has limited non-robotic backup. I can see a Super or the family of a Super that he killed deciding they can't risk him waking up again.
Yes, but then they have to get to him. As long as Syndrome is in Sinatron's power, he's a valuable hostage and Sinatron will likely protect him. And if Syndrome escapes, he'll have enough security that no lone attacking super is likely to be able to get to him.
 
I mean, Sinatron has 6 capes, no armies, and no real way of garnering the cash to hire more. The money at the Sands was explicitly chump change at the level the Kings operate at.

Now Syndrome's assets outside of Vegas should be more intact but Sinatron doesn't necessarily have access to those and the distinct lack of Syndrome should throw any defense into chaos. There's a vulnerable power vacuum we have a limited time to fill before someone else does. The key here is bodies on the ground to occupy land, and we have more than Sinatron or Syndrome by spades to put to that task.
I do want to take advantage of all this but the problem is that between the "resistance" and all of the upgrades we have to make, as well as the things we have to do to make those upgrades feasible, it might not be our highest priority

Honestly it could be argued that the best way for us to take advantage of this would be to try and buy our Kronos Corp, which will surely have a hugely reduced DC after all of this
I think people need to remember that DDV:gridlock is comparable with Shadowrun. It's less kingdoms owning territory and more megacorporations having influence over a area. Nothing actually stops us from doing business in or traveling through our rivals territories.

You only have a problem if you start building armies and assaulting their bases and such. All of the "kings", a better term in my opinion would be rivals, agree that keeping the masquerade of the Government being in control is better then ruling outright. The Government still has claws and will use them.

Trying to Anex more of the USA will weaken the masquerade further. You can expand the reach of the company, but don't try to expand Doofania. Don't threaten the masquerade as that tempts the wrath of the other Kings and what remains of the US Government.

The only reason Doof got away with it in my opinion is that everyone underestimates him and he hasn't really tried changing how things work. For the common people It's really just treated as a eccentric pharmacist pretending to be a dictator while giving everyone in his "kingdom" free food for following him on social media, paying their taxes, and etcetera. people don't even consider his territory as a different nation or recognize his succeeding from the union.

The thing with Sinatron though is his attempt to succeed from the Union won't be considered a joke or be seen as a eccentric quirk. His attempt to succeed on a global live-stream threatened the masquerade as he's a rogue A.I. that just assaulted his "creator". He just pissed off the Government and they will retaliate, but if Doof raises a army and crush him it adds the break in the masquerade. The best course would be to let the US Government handle it and/or send in a hit squad.
I still disagree with the idea that "The government is still in charge" counts as a Masquerade considering that everybody in Doofania knows that it isn't true and any regular joe that works for any of the Kings also knows that it isn't true
OK, but we just saw Sinatron flip a bunch of Shego's minions with relative ease, and I doubt that Voyd (for instance) had a big stack of negative loyalty modifiers for working with Shego originally.

The point is, we shouldn't assume that it would be easier for the leaders of a 'heroic' resistances against the 'evil' Doof to turn Hego against us than it was for, say, Sinatron to turn Shego's mercenary supers against us.
I would point out that those were mercenaries who were offered a lot of money and tempted by the idea of being founding members of the new Las Vegas, one where Supers could live in peace as opposed to a hero who actually works for Doof and genuinely sees the best in everyone being convinced to betray him despite him having not actually done anything bad

Plus in a Quest Sinatron could roll to turn them whereas here the "resistance" would have to take an action doing it the next turn, assuming that they're still around by then
For actions like "crush the resistance," you really really want a comparatively amoral hero unit. Someone like Mirage or Genghis Khan.
But if the "resistance" is just a punch of kids lashing out then we don't want to send someone that would actually hurt them but rather someone that would sit down and talk with them

Plus sending Mirage would be a huge waste of her Stewardship
Again, it bears remembering that Doom has already engaged in toonlike plots against us- as a false flag operation.
I would argue that there's a huge difference between sending one of his few Toon subordinates to carry out a fake assassination and "Giant Baking Soda Volcano"
 
Label-inator: The labels on all of your inators got swapped! On the next inator you use, you will only have a general idea of what effect it will have, at least until you put the labels back to their rightful place. On the next inator roll, you will see three inator options, one of which is the 'real' one that was rolled.
 
The masquerade isn't "don't assault your fellow kings", its "don't engage in open warfare on domestic soil."

I'm like 99% sure anyway
 
Given that we tasked Genghis Khan to the action, I would be very surprised if we got a Critical Failure given that we're starting from a +12+55 or +13+55 on the die roll. Then again, this may just be a low-scoring failure. :p

We certainly shouldn't continue to tolerate large numbers of mysterious forces simultaneously operating in Doofania. That's a recipe for disasters even worse than Giant Baking Soda Volcano!

...

[salutes]

*SNIP*

I took your critique to heart and agreed with it have since revised the analysis to determine that, yeah, looking at it again, it's pretty freaking likely that Doom is involved in this somehow. Might be his way of making his toon villain infestation problem ours by siccing them on us instead in exchange for a turn or two of clemency at best. Regardless of their involvement, we should consider sending out L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N to extend diplomatic ties from one evil organization to another to the burgeoning one in Doom's territory. It could be a good business opportunity, as supporting the burgeoning Toon Supervillain Organization forming in toons territory could give us a more aggressive way to combat what is happening there... and they can't possibly be more homicidal than Doom at the very least. Not sure how the Red Car organization would feel about this though. Thoughts?
 
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By the way. Whats the Khan's issue with Supers?
Probably just that they're destabilizing.

Shere Khan doesn't have a 'domain,' he has a firm lock on exactly one major port city that he's heavily fortified. Most of his power comes from scattered commercial holdings that are hard to defend directly.

As long as all Shere Khan has to worry about is goons with guns and airplanes and ships and things, he's got the situation under control. The variables are well understood, his own home defenses are strong enough to secure him against likely attacks, and his capital, which is relatively irreplaceable, is safe-ish.

If supers start being active in Cape Suzette, all that goes out the window. One bulletproof man in the wrong place could cause him a lot of problems. Given how much of his power comes from highly flammable oil refineries, Son of Gazerbeam or Fireball Lass or whoever could be a problem too.

Someone like Xanatos has a backup plan if super battles level large chunks of New York; he can just set up shop in Boston or Philadelphia or any of a bunch of other cities. Shere Khan doesn't have that.
 
Everyone is so quick to blame Phineas and Ferb, or to a lesser extent judge Doom, that I think they're sleeping on the real culprit. It's obvious once you think about it: who has a large enough power base, a strong connection to Danville, and the motive to start establishing baking soda volcanoes?

That's right. This is an invasion by Mars.
 
I still disagree with the idea that "The government is still in charge" counts as a Masquerade considering that everybody in Doofania knows that it isn't true and any regular joe that works for any of the Kings also knows that it isn't true
The Kings knowing doesn't make it 'not a masquerade.' It's perfectly normal for a small, powerful elite to be aware of the truth behind a 'masquerade.'

Doofania is a different case. On the other hand, notice that Doofania still pays federal taxes- it's entirely possible that a lot of Doofanian residents are still telling themselves that they're Americans and just dealing with the diseased lunatic from Danville as the cost of doing business and getting anything to eat during a famine year.

I would point out that those were mercenaries who were offered a lot of money and tempted by the idea of being founding members of the new Las Vegas, one where Supers could live in peace as opposed to a hero who actually works for Doof and genuinely sees the best in everyone being convinced to betray him despite him having not actually done anything bad
Ah, yes, but he(go) would be betraying the EEEEEEVIL scientist to fight for the Heroic Resistance!!!

I mean, I'm not saying Hego will automatically switch sides if brought into contact with whatever this 'resistance' is. But we shouldn't count on his loyalty being absolute or invincible when presented with that stimulus. The same is true of Major Monogram, who still harbors resentment about the way we broke up OWCA and killed one of his top agents and then rolled up in his face with a battalion of Normbots and forced him to surrender at gunpoint.

Given an opportunity to seek our overthrow in the name of the Forces of Good, they might very well switch sides or at least start passing information to our enemies. It's not a certainty that they will do so. But it's a risk we should consider.

Another consideration is that a guerilla resistance movement probably doesn't favor the kind of stand-up pitched battles Hego likes. They're gonna be sneaky, and Hego doesn't do well with sneaky.

Plus in a Quest Sinatron could roll to turn them whereas here the "resistance" would have to take an action doing it the next turn, assuming that they're still around by then
I'm not sure the mechanics work that way. If we have one of our hero units come into direct conflict with their hero units, I'm pretty sure that conflict resolves 'off screen' between turns. The turn mechanics don't magically freeze all other factions into stasis while we carry out our actions, or vice versa.

But if the "resistance" is just a punch of kids lashing out then we don't want to send someone that would actually hurt them but rather someone that would sit down and talk with them

Plus sending Mirage would be a huge waste of her Stewardship
Yes- but that just means we don't want to send someone who would default to attacking children rather than talking to them. Mirage is one candidate.

Besides, Mirage has Stewardship 23. Hego himself has Stewardship 18. The extra +5 makes a difference, but not necessarily an overwhelming one.

I agree that Mirage is better on a Stewardship action, but Mirage also has excellent Diplomacy and Intrigue, and should be seriously considered as a viable hero unit for those tasks.

I would argue that there's a huge difference between sending one of his few Toon subordinates to carry out a fake assassination and "Giant Baking Soda Volcano"
Maybe? Maybe not? Maybe Judge Doom just said "hey, Alonzo, come up with something dramatic that will make Doof very angry and make it look like toons did it." Then Alonzo handled the details.

The point is, we shouldn't rule out a candidate for who is responsible for this attack, purely based on our psychological profiling of what they would and would not do. Especially when they have already done something partially similar in the past.

I took your critique to heart and agreed with it have since revised the analysis to determine that, yeah, looking at it again, it's pretty freaking likely that Doom is involved in this somehow. Might be his way of making his toon villain infestation problem ours by siccing them on us instead in exchange for a turn or two of clemency at best. Regardless of their involvement, we should consider sending out L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N to extend diplomatic ties from one evil organization to another to the burgeoning one in Doom's territory.
LOVEMUFFIN is not competent enough to perform such a task and there is a very high risk that they'll get caught by Judge Doom and slaughtered to the last D-list mad scientist.

Everyone is so quick to blame Phineas and Ferb, or to a lesser extent judge Doom, that I think they're sleeping on the real culprit. It's obvious once you think about it: who has a large enough power base, a strong connection to Danville, and the motive to start establishing baking soda volcanoes?

That's right. This is an invasion by Mars.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd like you to explain to me why you think you're right.

It sounds funny.
 
Negaverse-B: A Synopsis of Syndrome Quest
Welp. Here's a thing:
Negaverse-B: A Synopsis of Syndrome Quest​

A person said:
Could someone explain why everyone's cheering over the main character of this quest getting a nat 1 in a fight?

The short answer is Buddy has a lot of bad karma built up. The long answer is that most of the plans have been built around Syndrome being our fall guy.

If you look through the rules, the leader isn't Mr. Pine but whoever is the majority shareholder in Kronos Corp.. And while Holy Diver probably expected us to strong-arm ourselves into a stable position then go on a quest to
Succumb to Weirdmageddon "Investigate Oregon", we had other ideas.

We wanted Buddy to be on as high a pedestal as possible before he is knocked down. The man has enough yes-men hero units to ignore the one who got away; strong enough Omnidroids to believe those weird capes who yell "bib-pity bob-pity" are no match for his might; and a party so big that it's worth ignoring the pharmacist who just entered the ring.

It has not been easy, reading the status reports at the end of turns with all the "accidents" involving capes is disheartening with the only saving graces being the replies tearing Syndrome's world view apart and our rudimentary occult investigations appear to show a necromancer has it out for us.

The Gala is the beginning of the end for our brat of a super-villain. Behind the masquerade our faction has taken a major hit but due to the dystopian capitalism of DVV:Gridlock, Kronos Corporation cannot topple yet. Losing a city to a robot you built is a bad image for a CEO to have. And thanks to us making every other jerk in the company complicit in our affairs, Winston Deavor appears to be the only one fit for the job.

This is my first time making an omake, and I tend to be bad at explaining things. If this doesn't make sense I'll do some revisions or some bullet points if that fails
 
Kind of like in CK2, where you play as your heir if you die, Syndrome quest schemed against themselves and the GM in order to start playing as Winston Deavor?
Uriah Gambit-ing a particularly distasteful leader and assorted villains to be able to play as a half-decent guy. Twisted and brilliant and would probably go down in questing history for huge twists.
 
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