DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

[weredrago2]

Does anyone just want to tell me the short version of the difference? Seems like a small thing to get held up on.

 

[Torgamous]

Does anyone just want to tell me the short version of the difference? Seems like a small thing to get held up on.

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CEO is the big overall boss guy. CFO is the head money guy. If Janus is CEO then we need a new position for Doof to occupy.

 

[MrHobbit]

Does anyone just want to tell me the short version of the difference? Seems like a small thing to get held up on.

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The chief executive officer is the person who bosses around the other executive officers. The Chief financial officer is the executive officer who oversees the financing portion of the company. Stuff like financial reports and the capital structure.

All of DEI's stock is owned by Doof so it won't have a traditional executive management, but Doof is the CEO while Janus is the CFO.

 

[SuspiciousBird]

CEO is the big overall boss guy. CFO is the head money guy. If Janus is CEO then we need a new position for Doof to occupy.

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Doof never lost his position of Supreme Overlord of the Tri-State Area, did he? That beats out a lame CEO title any day.

 

[woweed]

The chief executive officer is the person who bosses around the other executive officers. The Chief financial officer is the executive officer who oversees the financing portion of the company. Stuff like financial reports and the capital structure.

All of DEI's stock is owned by Doof so it won't have a traditional executive management, but Doof is the CEO while Janus is the CFO.

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Indeed, even if one of our Council was CEO technically, i'm pretty sure it wouldn't be Janus. Mirage seems to take the firm leadership role in our Council.

 

[The Richmaster]

That was wholesome; it was nice to have something pleasant here considering all the chaos coming from so many different sides

 

[TheGleeman]

Spoiler: Chief Officer Titles & small addendums

Title	Abbreviation	Explanation
Chief academic officer	CAO	Responsible for academic administration at universities and other higher education institutions
Chief accessibility officer	CAO	Responsible for overseeing accessibility and inclusion for people with disabilities and seniors
Chief accounting officer	CAO	Responsible for overseeing all accounting and bookkeeping functions, ensuring that ledger accounts, financial statements, and cost control systems are operating effectively
Chief administrative officer	CAO	Responsible for business administration, including daily operations and overall performance
Chief analytics officer	CAO	Responsible for data analysis and interpretation
Chief architect	CA	Responsible for designing systems for high availability and scalability, specifically in technology companies. Often called enterprise architects (EA).
Chief audit executive	CAE	Responsible for the internal audit
Chief brand officer	CBO	Responsible for a brand's image, experience, and promise, and propagating it throughout all aspects of the company, overseeing marketing, advertising, design, public relations and customer service departments
Chief business officer	CBO	Responsible for the company's deal making, provides leadership and execute a deal strategy that will allow the company to fulfill its scientific/technology mission and build shareholder value, provides managerial guidance to the company's product development staff as needed.
Chief business development officer	CBDO	Responsible for business development plans, design and implementation of processes to support business growth
Chief commercial officer	CCO	Responsible for commercial strategy and development
Chief communications officer	CCO	Responsible for communications to employees, shareholders, media, bloggers, influencers, the press, the community, and the public. Practical application of communication studies
Chief compliance officer	CCO	Responsible for overseeing and managing regulatory compliance.
Chief content officer	CCO	Responsible for developing and commissioning content for broadcasting channels and multimedia exploitation
Chief creative officer	CCO	In one sense of the term, responsible for the overall look and feel of marketing, media, and branding. In another sense, similar to chief design officer.
Chief customer officer	CCO	Responsible for customer relationship management
Chief data officer	CDO	Responsible for enterprise-wide governance and utilization of information and data as assets, via data processing, data analysis, data mining, information trading, and other means
Chief delivery officer	CDO	Responsible for leading the project management office for project coordination, and facilitating product deliveries among clients worldwide
Chief design officer	CDO	Responsible for overseeing all design aspects of a company's products and services, including product design, graphic design, user experience design, industrial design, and package design, and possibly aspects of advertising, marketing, and engineering
Chief development officer	CDO	Responsible for activities developing the business, usually through added products, added clients, markets or segments
Chief digital officer	CDO	Responsible for adoption of digital technologies, digital consumer experiences, the process of digital transformation, and devising and executing social strategies
Chief diversity officer	CDO	Responsible for diversity and inclusion, including diversity training and equal employment opportunity
Chief engineering officer	CEngO	Similar to the more common chief technology officer (CTO); responsible for technology/product R & D and manufacturing issues in a technology company, oversees the development of technology being commercialized
Chief executive officer	CEO	Responsible for the overall vision and direction of an organization, making the final decisions over all of the corporation's operations. The highest-ranking management officer; often also the chairman of the board. Usually called CEO in the United States, chief executive or managing director in the United Kingdom, Commonwealth of Nations, and some other countries.
Chief experience officer	CXO	Responsible for user experience, overseeing user experience design and user interface design. CXO is not to be confused with CxO, a term commonly used when referring to any one of various chief officers.
Chief financial officer	CFO	Responsible for all aspects of finances
Chief gaming officer	CGO	Responsible for both the game development and the online and offline publishing functions of a company that makes video games
Chief government relations officer	CGRO	Responsible for all aspects of government relations and lobbying
Chief human resources officer	CHRO	Responsible for all aspects of human resource management and industrial relations
Chief information officer	CIO	Responsible for IT, particularly in IT companies or companies that rely heavily on an IT infrastructure
Chief information security officer	CISO	Responsible for information security
Chief information technology officer	CITO	Responsible for information technology. Often equivalent to chief information officer (CIO) and, in a company that sells IT, chief technology officer (CTO).
Chief innovation officer	CINO	Responsible for innovation
Chief investment officer	CIO	Responsible for investment and for the asset liability management (ALM) of typical large financial institutions such as insurers, banks and/or pension funds
Chief knowledge officer	CKO	Responsible for managing intellectual capital and knowledge management
Chief learning officer	CLO	Responsible for learning and training
Chief legal officer	CLO	Responsible for overseeing and identifying legal issues in all departments and their interrelation, as well as corporate governance and business policy. Often called general counsel (GC) or chief counsel.
Chief marketing officer	CMO	Responsible for marketing; job may include sales management, product development, distribution channel management, marketing communications (including advertising and promotions), pricing, market research, and customer service.
Chief medical officer	CMO	Responsible for scientific and medical excellence, especially in pharmaceutical companies, health systems, hospitals, and integrated provider networks. The title is used in many countries for the senior government official who advises on matters of public health importance. In the latter sense compare also chief dental officer.
Chief networking officer	CNO	Responsible for social capital within the company and between the company and its partners
Chief nursing officer	CNO	Responsible for nursing
Chief operating officer	COO	Responsible for supervising office administration and maintenance, business operations, including operations management, operations research, and (when applicable) manufacturing operations; role is highly contingent and situational, changing from company to company and even from a CEO to their successor within the same company. Often called "director of operations" in the nonprofit sector.
Chief privacy officer	CPO	Responsible for all the privacy of the data in an organization, including privacy policy enforcement
Chief process officer	CPO	Responsible for business processes and applied process theory, defining rules, policies, and guidelines to ensure that the main objectives follow the company strategy as well as establishing control mechanisms
Chief procurement officer	CPO	Responsible for procurement, sourcing goods and services and negotiating prices and contracts
Chief product officer	CPO	Responsible for all product-related matters. The CPO is to the business's product what the CTO is to technology. The responsibilities of the CPO are inclusive of product vision, product strategy, user experience, product design, product development, and product marketing.
Chief quality officer	CQO	Responsible for quality and quality assurance, setting up quality goals and ensuring that those goals continue to be met over time
Chief research officer	CRO	Responsible for research
Chief research and development officer	CRDO	Responsible for research and development
Chief revenue officer	CRO	Responsible for measuring and maximizing revenue
Chief risk officer	CRO	Responsible for risk management, ensuring that risk is avoided, controlled, accepted, or transferred and that opportunities are not missed. Sometimes called chief risk management officer (CRMO).
Chief sales officer	CSO	Responsible for sales
Chief science officer	CSO	Responsible for science, usually applied science, including research and development and new technologies. Sometimes called chief scientist.
Chief security officer	CSO	Responsible for security, including physical security and network security
Chief software officer	CSO	Responsible for the overall software strategy, roadmap, engineering, and user experience
Chief solutions officer	CSO	Responsible for the development and delivery of reliable and innovative business and technology solutions
Chief strategy officer	CSO	Responsible for all aspects of strategy and strategic planning, including enterprise portfolio management, corporate development, and market intelligence
Chief sustainability officer	CSO	Responsible for environmental/sustainability programs
Chief system engineer	CSE	Responsible for the whole system specification, validation, and verification in development processes. Usually using as the manager of other sub-system engineers.
Chief technical officer	CTO	Responsible to bridge the technical specific issues related to product or service in the organization. This position is common in NGOs and the development aid sector when the CEO or Project Director is not a person with a strong technical background related to the aid program focus such as economic development, renewable energy, human rights, agriculture, WASH, emergency responses, etc. The CTO provides guidance and advice to the program implementation team related to technical things. In some development aid programs, this position is similar to the Technical Director.
Chief technology officer	CTO	Responsible for technology and research and development, overseeing the development of technology to be commercialized. (For an information technology company, the subject matter would be similar to the CIO's; however, the CTO's focus is technology for the firm to sell versus technology used for facilitating the firm's own operations.). Sometimes called chief technical officer.
Chief value officer	CVO	Ensure that all programs, actions, new products, services and investments create and capture customer value.
Chief visionary officer	CVO	Responsible for defining corporate vision, business strategy, and working plans
Chief web officer	CWO	Responsible for the web presence of the company and usually for the entire online presence, including intranet and Internet (web, mobile apps, other)

Middle management

• Supervisor
• Foreman
• General manager or GM
• Manager
• Of counsel – A lawyer working on a part-time or temporary basis for a company or law firm.
• Vice president – Middle or upper manager in a corporation. They often appear in various hierarchical layers such as executive vice president, senior vice president, associate vice president, or assistant vice president, with EVP usually considered the highest and usually reporting to the CEO or president. Many times, corporate officers such as the CFO, COO, CSO, CIO, CTO, secretary, or treasurer will concurrently hold vice president titles, commonly EVP or SVP. Vice presidents in small companies are also referred to as chiefs of a certain division, such as vice president for finance, or vice president for administration. Note that in some financial contexts, the title of vice president is actually subordinate to a director.

A comprehensive list of all the possible CxOs in modern companies - suffice to say that DEI barely got *Any of these*

If you guys wanna pass the time, you can unofficially assign titles to our Operatives as you see fit

 

[Silent Grove]

Bookshelves took up two of the walls, filled with long-outdated tomes on programming languages and stacks of well-worn novels, digging indents into the soft, freshly vacuumed carpet.

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Imagine if every answer on stack exchange was "hit ALT+F4"

On the wall of the apartment, beside the clock, hung a copy of Action Comics #1.

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And so he stayed the mild mannered computer programmer. Each day, he donned his glasses and set out to protect that world.

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Motif!

I cannot shake the certainty of yet another irrational conclusion: that you will succeed,

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A computer is incapable of generating truly random numbers and substitute them with complex formulas that use inputs such as time.

As such the chance of randint(1,100) outputting a 1 is either 0% or 100%.

I wish I could share your certainty.

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The randomness of a human rolling physical dices is debatable but so is the chance of Alan getting a sufficient output.

"And what about the story? What happened?"

"It followed the events of Superman attempting to foil an eco-terrorist plot to extort money from the United Nations.

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The Machine is analyzing the ethics of nature.

"Superman listened to the eco-terrorist's complaints, even though they were not worthy of the actions he took. Superman cannot address the eco-terrorist's complaints. He does not hold the power or resources to do so."

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Alan the lone coder.

"But…Superman told the UN council of these concerns himself, and they listened to him. Because…they could not have listened to the eco-terrorists themselves."

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Mr. Bradley head programmer at DEI.

 

[woweed]

Spoiler: Chief Officer Titles & small addendums

Title	Abbreviation	Explanation
Chief academic officer	CAO	Responsible for academic administration at universities and other higher education institutions
Chief accessibility officer	CAO	Responsible for overseeing accessibility and inclusion for people with disabilities and seniors
Chief accounting officer	CAO	Responsible for overseeing all accounting and bookkeeping functions, ensuring that ledger accounts, financial statements, and cost control systems are operating effectively
Chief administrative officer	CAO	Responsible for business administration, including daily operations and overall performance
Chief analytics officer	CAO	Responsible for data analysis and interpretation
Chief architect	CA	Responsible for designing systems for high availability and scalability, specifically in technology companies. Often called enterprise architects (EA).
Chief audit executive	CAE	Responsible for the internal audit
Chief brand officer	CBO	Responsible for a brand's image, experience, and promise, and propagating it throughout all aspects of the company, overseeing marketing, advertising, design, public relations and customer service departments
Chief business officer	CBO	Responsible for the company's deal making, provides leadership and execute a deal strategy that will allow the company to fulfill its scientific/technology mission and build shareholder value, provides managerial guidance to the company's product development staff as needed.
Chief business development officer	CBDO	Responsible for business development plans, design and implementation of processes to support business growth
Chief commercial officer	CCO	Responsible for commercial strategy and development
Chief communications officer	CCO	Responsible for communications to employees, shareholders, media, bloggers, influencers, the press, the community, and the public. Practical application of communication studies
Chief compliance officer	CCO	Responsible for overseeing and managing regulatory compliance.
Chief content officer	CCO	Responsible for developing and commissioning content for broadcasting channels and multimedia exploitation
Chief creative officer	CCO	In one sense of the term, responsible for the overall look and feel of marketing, media, and branding. In another sense, similar to chief design officer.
Chief customer officer	CCO	Responsible for customer relationship management
Chief data officer	CDO	Responsible for enterprise-wide governance and utilization of information and data as assets, via data processing, data analysis, data mining, information trading, and other means
Chief delivery officer	CDO	Responsible for leading the project management office for project coordination, and facilitating product deliveries among clients worldwide
Chief design officer	CDO	Responsible for overseeing all design aspects of a company's products and services, including product design, graphic design, user experience design, industrial design, and package design, and possibly aspects of advertising, marketing, and engineering
Chief development officer	CDO	Responsible for activities developing the business, usually through added products, added clients, markets or segments
Chief digital officer	CDO	Responsible for adoption of digital technologies, digital consumer experiences, the process of digital transformation, and devising and executing social strategies
Chief diversity officer	CDO	Responsible for diversity and inclusion, including diversity training and equal employment opportunity
Chief engineering officer	CEngO	Similar to the more common chief technology officer (CTO); responsible for technology/product R & D and manufacturing issues in a technology company, oversees the development of technology being commercialized
Chief executive officer	CEO	Responsible for the overall vision and direction of an organization, making the final decisions over all of the corporation's operations. The highest-ranking management officer; often also the chairman of the board. Usually called CEO in the United States, chief executive or managing director in the United Kingdom, Commonwealth of Nations, and some other countries.
Chief experience officer	CXO	Responsible for user experience, overseeing user experience design and user interface design. CXO is not to be confused with CxO, a term commonly used when referring to any one of various chief officers.
Chief financial officer	CFO	Responsible for all aspects of finances
Chief gaming officer	CGO	Responsible for both the game development and the online and offline publishing functions of a company that makes video games
Chief government relations officer	CGRO	Responsible for all aspects of government relations and lobbying
Chief human resources officer	CHRO	Responsible for all aspects of human resource management and industrial relations
Chief information officer	CIO	Responsible for IT, particularly in IT companies or companies that rely heavily on an IT infrastructure
Chief information security officer	CISO	Responsible for information security
Chief information technology officer	CITO	Responsible for information technology. Often equivalent to chief information officer (CIO) and, in a company that sells IT, chief technology officer (CTO).
Chief innovation officer	CINO	Responsible for innovation
Chief investment officer	CIO	Responsible for investment and for the asset liability management (ALM) of typical large financial institutions such as insurers, banks and/or pension funds
Chief knowledge officer	CKO	Responsible for managing intellectual capital and knowledge management
Chief learning officer	CLO	Responsible for learning and training
Chief legal officer	CLO	Responsible for overseeing and identifying legal issues in all departments and their interrelation, as well as corporate governance and business policy. Often called general counsel (GC) or chief counsel.
Chief marketing officer	CMO	Responsible for marketing; job may include sales management, product development, distribution channel management, marketing communications (including advertising and promotions), pricing, market research, and customer service.
Chief medical officer	CMO	Responsible for scientific and medical excellence, especially in pharmaceutical companies, health systems, hospitals, and integrated provider networks. The title is used in many countries for the senior government official who advises on matters of public health importance. In the latter sense compare also chief dental officer.
Chief networking officer	CNO	Responsible for social capital within the company and between the company and its partners
Chief nursing officer	CNO	Responsible for nursing
Chief operating officer	COO	Responsible for supervising office administration and maintenance, business operations, including operations management, operations research, and (when applicable) manufacturing operations; role is highly contingent and situational, changing from company to company and even from a CEO to their successor within the same company. Often called "director of operations" in the nonprofit sector.
Chief privacy officer	CPO	Responsible for all the privacy of the data in an organization, including privacy policy enforcement
Chief process officer	CPO	Responsible for business processes and applied process theory, defining rules, policies, and guidelines to ensure that the main objectives follow the company strategy as well as establishing control mechanisms
Chief procurement officer	CPO	Responsible for procurement, sourcing goods and services and negotiating prices and contracts
Chief product officer	CPO	Responsible for all product-related matters. The CPO is to the business's product what the CTO is to technology. The responsibilities of the CPO are inclusive of product vision, product strategy, user experience, product design, product development, and product marketing.
Chief quality officer	CQO	Responsible for quality and quality assurance, setting up quality goals and ensuring that those goals continue to be met over time
Chief research officer	CRO	Responsible for research
Chief research and development officer	CRDO	Responsible for research and development
Chief revenue officer	CRO	Responsible for measuring and maximizing revenue
Chief risk officer	CRO	Responsible for risk management, ensuring that risk is avoided, controlled, accepted, or transferred and that opportunities are not missed. Sometimes called chief risk management officer (CRMO).
Chief sales officer	CSO	Responsible for sales
Chief science officer	CSO	Responsible for science, usually applied science, including research and development and new technologies. Sometimes called chief scientist.
Chief security officer	CSO	Responsible for security, including physical security and network security
Chief software officer	CSO	Responsible for the overall software strategy, roadmap, engineering, and user experience
Chief solutions officer	CSO	Responsible for the development and delivery of reliable and innovative business and technology solutions
Chief strategy officer	CSO	Responsible for all aspects of strategy and strategic planning, including enterprise portfolio management, corporate development, and market intelligence
Chief sustainability officer	CSO	Responsible for environmental/sustainability programs
Chief system engineer	CSE	Responsible for the whole system specification, validation, and verification in development processes. Usually using as the manager of other sub-system engineers.
Chief technical officer	CTO	Responsible to bridge the technical specific issues related to product or service in the organization. This position is common in NGOs and the development aid sector when the CEO or Project Director is not a person with a strong technical background related to the aid program focus such as economic development, renewable energy, human rights, agriculture, WASH, emergency responses, etc. The CTO provides guidance and advice to the program implementation team related to technical things. In some development aid programs, this position is similar to the Technical Director.
Chief technology officer	CTO	Responsible for technology and research and development, overseeing the development of technology to be commercialized. (For an information technology company, the subject matter would be similar to the CIO's; however, the CTO's focus is technology for the firm to sell versus technology used for facilitating the firm's own operations.). Sometimes called chief technical officer.
Chief value officer	CVO	Ensure that all programs, actions, new products, services and investments create and capture customer value.
Chief visionary officer	CVO	Responsible for defining corporate vision, business strategy, and working plans
Chief web officer	CWO	Responsible for the web presence of the company and usually for the entire online presence, including intranet and Internet (web, mobile apps, other)

Middle management

• Supervisor
• Foreman
• General manager or GM
• Manager
• Of counsel – A lawyer working on a part-time or temporary basis for a company or law firm.
• Vice president – Middle or upper manager in a corporation. They often appear in various hierarchical layers such as executive vice president, senior vice president, associate vice president, or assistant vice president, with EVP usually considered the highest and usually reporting to the CEO or president. Many times, corporate officers such as the CFO, COO, CSO, CIO, CTO, secretary, or treasurer will concurrently hold vice president titles, commonly EVP or SVP. Vice presidents in small companies are also referred to as chiefs of a certain division, such as vice president for finance, or vice president for administration. Note that in some financial contexts, the title of vice president is actually subordinate to a director.

A comprehensive list of all the possible CxOs in modern companies - suffice to say that DEI barely got *Any of these*

If you guys wanna pass the time, you can unofficially assign titles to our Operatives as you see fit

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I'm fairly certain Mirage is our COO inasmuch as that exists, and same with Janus as our CFO. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Mal has an entirely fictional title along those lines - Chief Occult Officer? Of course, he probably insists on going by "Court Wizard"...Also, Ludivine is certainly our chief research officer.

 

[Penguinbowler]

I'm fairly certain Mirage is our COO inasmuch as that exists, and same with Janus as our CFO. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Mal has an entirely fictional title along those lines - Chief Occult Officer? Of course, he probably insists on going by "Court Wizard"...Also, Ludivine is certainly our chief research officer.

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Mirage might officially be the CISO

 

[woweed]

Mirage might officially be the CISO

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Eh, true. Although, all indication is that she was effectively performing the functions of a COO.

 

[Penguinbowler]

[ ] Study Diecast Robotics
DC 130
The state of the robots recovered from the Midwest Exclusion Zone suggest a proprietary method to mass-produce robots both quickly and cheaply, with all the quality that implies. It will take some research to figure out the specifics of the method, but putting it into practice will greatly accelerate our supply lines if we're willing to sacrifice quality for quantity.

Council Outlook: 3/6 (Pass)
Coyote: Ah, the sweet smell of mass production. (Pass)
Goofy: Wouldn't it make more sense to focus on creatin' a couple real nice robots instead of a whole buncha crummy ones? (Veto)
Janus Lee: I can understand the need for mass production in the modern industry. (Pass)
Mirage: The potential value is probably worth the investment. (Pass)
Ludivine: This does not advance yooah Greevil Agenda, Doktor. (Veto)
Malifishmirtz: You want to make metal golems instead of flesh meatlings? How could my own descendant betray me like this?! (Veto)

Outcome: Slight income improvement, significant increase to standing in [Advanced Robotics]. Major investors are likely anticipating competition from us in this field. We should expect pushback of some sort.

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Gonna ask this here, Study Diecast robotics; would it have anti-synergy with the AI project we just did; or will they be kept completely separate @Arathnorn
EDIT: Also if Odd Jobbers would trigger for the Mental Defense actions since it specifies mentalism in the trait description.

 

[KnownParadox]

Awww. Don't worry Alan I'm pretty sure you do have children now, or at least one.

As far as stories go to raise an AI on, Superman comics probably aren't the worst to add to the list of reading material.

I have the strange urge to call her Jenny, or Penny, but that's because I'm a big cartoon fan.

 

[woweed]

Ya know...Now I kinda want to collab with the II to look into the roots of AI sapience...

 

[MrCogmor]

A computer is incapable of generating truly random numbers and substitute them with complex formulas that use inputs such as time.

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Not entirely true. A computer can generate truly random numbers by measuring a chaotic external process.

Hardware random number generator - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The chaotic external process can even be a human. There are programs that generate random numbers by measuring the millisecond variations in timing between button presses and wiggles of a mouse.

 

[TheLordofAwesome]

Once again, Superman proves to be awesome.

 

[bigking321]

Looks like he's ready to open up.

Definitely need to chat next turn.

 

[Angelform]

Interlude: Hello World

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What a nice present.

Looks like we won't be waiting all that long for Civilian AI to have an impact after all.
And having created AI people we can now take the 'make bots that don't become people' action without looking like soulless monsters or slave makers.

Curious whether Alan is going to group up with Tron or if Tron will be an independent hero. I cannot imagine him not being added to the roster in some fashion once we become aware of him.

She nodded, and pressed a button on her lapel. Her eyes flicked close, and elevator music began to play through her bow tie. One of the little details someone, probably Doofenshmirtz himself, had added to the design.

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That is adorable.

…so how many built-in weapons does she have? DEI has too many mad scientists for no one to have sneaked a weapon into the blueprints.

 

[BurnBright]

Looks like we won't be waiting all that long for Civilian AI to have an impact after all.
And having created AI people we can now take the 'make bots that don't become people' action without looking like soulless monsters or slave makers.

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We're already doing that, though? We have standing in Robotics. Consumer AI is explicitly selling robots that have sparked. Unless you mean a different action?

 

[Angelform]

We're already doing that, though? We have standing in Robotics. Consumer AI is explicitly selling robots that have sparked. Unless you mean a different action?

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We have an action to figure out how to make a bot that CANNOT become a person.
At present anything even slightly animate can, with enough belief for a long enough time, spontaneously become a sapient being. Which is somewhat awkward as we use Normbots as disposable cannon-fodder.

 

[Nystical]

Learning Practical Mental Training (QMS)
DC 130 (Reduced by multiple hero units)
If you take this with Fortress of the Mind, chance of success is equal to both success chances combined.
38+20+37+10+10(XP) = +115 -> 86% CoS + 59% CoS = 145% CoS

Occult Fortress of the Mind (Celena, assuming 45 Occult)
DC 120 (Reduced by multiple hero units)
If you take this with Practical Mental Defense, chance of success is equal to both success chances combined.
4+19+45+10(XP) = +78 -> 59% CoS + 86% CoS = 145% CoS

Doing some estimations for the mental training actions, assuming we do end up getting Celena and having her do it. But it looks like it would pass without her anyway.

 

[Argidoll]

Doing some estimations for the mental training actions, assuming we do end up getting Celena and having her do it. But it looks like it would pass without her anyway.

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Okay, there seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding here. The CoS of the unlocked personal action is what would be increased, not the chance of success of the other national action.

 

[Underdog Emiya]

Doing some estimations for the mental training actions, assuming we do end up getting Celena and having her do it. But it looks like it would pass without her anyway.

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Seems like a good investiment, specially with those odds.

 

[Penguinbowler]

Learning Practical Mental Training (QMS)
DC 130 (Reduced by multiple hero units)
If you take this with Fortress of the Mind, chance of success is equal to both success chances combined.
38+20+37+10+10(XP) = +115 -> 86% CoS + 59% CoS = 145% CoS

Occult Fortress of the Mind (Celena, assuming 45 Occult)
DC 120 (Reduced by multiple hero units)
If you take this with Practical Mental Defense, chance of success is equal to both success chances combined.
4+19+45+10(XP) = +78 -> 59% CoS + 86% CoS = 145% CoS

Doing some estimations for the mental training actions, assuming we do end up getting Celena and having her do it. But it looks like it would pass without her anyway.

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Just a heads up, you forgot loyalty; so it would be 89% (91% if they get they can do ODI before it) and 63%!

Even if they do not stack its still very useful. since I believe they will allow Celena, QMS, and maybe Kitsune get it in 2 turns instead of 3 or 4, as well as dramatically decreasing even the lower occult units attempts (Tobe loves it, Lizzy has a higher chance on her second, and Kermit's low Learning is so low his low occult is relevant even if its a smaller increase each time.)

 

[Pawn Lelouch]

Doofquest Mental Shield Odds

docs.google.com

@Penguinbowler and I decided to make a list of our hero's odds of succeeding on the mental shielding personals if we have both of them done. It goes up to 5 attempts and got organized into a few categories based on how realistically would we take the shielding personal with them and general odds of success.

Figured it'd be useful to help visualize the odds in practice.