DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
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I'd rather not deliberately shoot Evelyn here, personally? Mirage has been trying to avoid that sort of thing and at worst it might get Edna to dig in her heels even more. Plus even if we don't kill her Winston and Hego probably wouldn't be happy about it and with Sinatron gone at the moment it's looking more and more like Winston's going to be in charge at the end of this and that feels like a great way to yank relationships with Olympia?
Plus ideally we need like, Hego and Olympia to be the big winners in order for something for the super cause to be salvaged from this debacle.
And then Mez says this, which further puts me off of it.
Plus ideally we need like, Hego and Olympia to be the big winners in order for something for the super cause to be salvaged from this debacle.
And then Mez says this, which further puts me off of it.
If it is big deal we can try alternative approaches. For example
[] Plan: Power of diplomacy v2
-[]Give Winston another chance to talk and calm Evelyn down. Meanwhile have your fighters covertly surround Evelyn and join fighting after it starts properly. Have Mirage covertly skip fighting and move away all the while looking very suspiciously as if doing so for some nefarious purpose. Make sure that Edna sees it and hopefully follows her. Actually search for survivors in the not immediate vicinity of fighting and offer them your help if they still need it.
-[]Have Marco and Lizzy help Hego to knock out Evelyn . Task Mez with making sure that Evelyn does not speak about Mirage. Interrupt her, subtly hypnotize or even nonlethaly shoot at her if all else does not help to keep Evelyn quiet.
-[] If Evelyn subdued one way or another attempt to gain her custody. Bring out possibility that unstable powers are detrimental to her health and she needs to be immediately checked at genetic research facility. You have one, but if they don't trust you entirely it can be collaboration with Liv Amara assuming you can still find her in the aftermath.
-[]Recover Sinatron processor on the basis of needing to learn what exactly he ejected Evelyn with and where he acquired it.
-[]With Evelyn successfully captured mind control her into accepting Supers and her new powers even if we will need to replace her entire personality to accomplish it. Blame any side effects from it on her own forays into mind control. Basically that she invented mind control device early on and used it on herself to remove parts of her personality that she deemed unnecessary and we simply restored them.
mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
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- You'll neeever guess
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- He/Him/His
Yeah, no. I like where your head's at @Alex Sol with the "don't kill her" thing, but this bitch is crazy. Diplo has had its chance, and it failed. No way is Evelyn just going to be talked down, especially when she feels (kinda correctly) that she's the one with the power in this scenario. She just took down Sinatron and the Rat Pack and is currently processing the fact that, despite hating her powers, she's strong. Right now, we are not in a position to make any negotiations. She has the power in this transaction and she knows it. She's not going to back down because we asked nicely. That's just going to look like begging to her, which will not work on someone in her mindset.
We need to go Martial. Full-stop. Unleash the teens on her, unleash Mez on her, try to take her down. Lethal force should be the absolute last-case resort, after hypnosis.
[ ] Plan: Full-Frontal Assault
-[ ] Have Marco and Hego team up and attack Evelyn, with Liz providing support with her ants
-[ ] Promise Edna to talk afterwards, but ask her to help you get Winston out
-[ ] Keep Mez on the sidelines to try and use hypnosis if battle fails
--[ ] If that fails... have Mez kill her
We need to go Martial. Full-stop. Unleash the teens on her, unleash Mez on her, try to take her down. Lethal force should be the absolute last-case resort, after hypnosis.
[ ] Plan: Full-Frontal Assault
-[ ] Have Marco and Hego team up and attack Evelyn, with Liz providing support with her ants
-[ ] Promise Edna to talk afterwards, but ask her to help you get Winston out
-[ ] Keep Mez on the sidelines to try and use hypnosis if battle fails
--[ ] If that fails... have Mez kill her
We don't have reasons to hurry though. The more time pass the more likely that some kind of reinforcement will arrive. Also both Edna and Wilston already resolved to stay so with your plan we will just waste diplo on them unless we somehow trick them into leaving or hypnotize them. Also Wilston here is not in real danger and can even help in fighting since Evelyn would be reluctant to hurt him.
Okay, so Evelyn is rolling at effectively +44, with a one-hit KO ability if her trait activates.
Hego is rolling at effectively +29.
The party is Mirage +5, Lizzy +32 (+27+5 from Only My Enemies), Marco +36 (+41 if defending someone, from Safe Kid) and +15 for Mezmerella.
If Only My Enemies is a factor, that's a +46/+51 Martial for a full team Martial effort (Mirage+Marco+Disciple of Jo-Lan+Only My Enemies+Safe Kid). It may be doable.
Hego is rolling at effectively +29.
The party is Mirage +5, Lizzy +32 (+27+5 from Only My Enemies), Marco +36 (+41 if defending someone, from Safe Kid) and +15 for Mezmerella.
If Only My Enemies is a factor, that's a +46/+51 Martial for a full team Martial effort (Mirage+Marco+Disciple of Jo-Lan+Only My Enemies+Safe Kid). It may be doable.
I thought Lizzy said that because she say Evelyn destroy Sinatron and was thinking she and Marco might be next on the list.
Edit: Actually I got the timing wrong, but she did see Evelyn do damage to Sinatron.
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I feel like it's worth noting for planning that the cameras are probably still rolling on this.
Err...
In case it isn't obvious, I think that it is a not-so-subtle hint from the GM team that if we want certain characters to have a very valuable trait based on them being friends, we better be ready to invest actions in creating and maintaining said social links between the relevant characters.
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
- Location
- Central Park
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
Can we make sure we won't get the same penalties as splitting the party on that one?
Otherwise my plan of attack would be:
[] Attack!
Also considering what happened at the last gala I wouldn't be surprised if there's a couple of PMC's on standbye or mercenary supers/capes so the longer we wait the better chances of reinforce,ents are of arriving also mabye as a thankk you/ I'm sorry gift we could send sinatron back with some of our tech. I'm thinking fluber since they can do the PR for flubber instead of us and we already haave schematics for flubber power and cars
Light
A world without Light would be Dark.
- Location
- United States
[] Plan: Ruthlessly Pragmatic Hypnosis
- [] Rather than going for taking Evelyn down, instead aim to get her to give up - to run away or turn herself in.
- [] Have Marco and Lizzy try to hurt Evelyn as badly as they can without killing her, and if need be, have Mez shoot her to hurt her further, before capping it off with Mirage telling her that the odds are stacked against her and Mez hypnotising Evelyn that, "You need to get treatment," "You need to run," or similar as appropriate.
Straight-up flipping the game board is my intention here.
- [] Rather than going for taking Evelyn down, instead aim to get her to give up - to run away or turn herself in.
- [] Have Marco and Lizzy try to hurt Evelyn as badly as they can without killing her, and if need be, have Mez shoot her to hurt her further, before capping it off with Mirage telling her that the odds are stacked against her and Mez hypnotising Evelyn that, "You need to get treatment," "You need to run," or similar as appropriate.
Straight-up flipping the game board is my intention here.
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- Location
- Two hours away
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Sinatron spoke the jinx's name.
Nobody is rolling to good.
There we go
That's a spicy trait but it doesn't active every roll at least. To small a sample size to know what the pattern is though.
As for thoughts on the write-in:
[1] Mainframe cameras will catch what Evelyn is doing
[2] Mez can utilize the y-axis with the wings
[2.1] Cape bigot isn't going to look up
[2.1.1] No one ever looks up
[2.2] Bullet through the scalp
[2.3] Tackle her after she spends her charge for forced hypnotic staring contest
[3] Edna might help with the diplomacy option if it comes up[4] Olympia still has I.G. schematics
[5] I'm pretty sure Mirage's diplo trait will proc on Evelyn
Also love Mez's scatter brain train of thought.
OK, so...Plan here: Have Marco engage directly alongside Hego, Lizzy provided back-up, with Mez waiting in the wings (with the wings) ready to use hypnosis if the opportunity presents itself. Try and wait for her to pull one of those big electric attacks, then make the attempt to lower the risk of getting circuit-broken. Lethal force is to be avoided if at all possible. Meanwhile, Mirage...Yeah, probably best to retreat. Get Winston and Edna and get the fuck out of here. Sound good?
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It would be nice to have some effective way to beat Evelyn but bullet to the head is in no way appropriate here. If we are losing can as well drop roof on her or something. Considering that she somehow tanked Sinatron shots she would probably survive it.
Thus yet another plan here
[] Plan: Removing all leads
-[] Give Winston time for second attempt to make Evelyn surrender or do whatever he and Hego planned. Have your fighters subtly surround Evelyn and join fighting after it starts properly. Have Mirage covertly slip from the area and move away all the while looking suspiciously as if doing it for some nefarious purpose. Make sure that Edna sees it and hopefully follows her. Actually have Mirage search for survivors in the not immediate vicinity of the fighting and help them to move out of building. If possible have some of Lizzy bugs help you.
-[]Have Marco and Lizzy help Hego to knock out Evelyn . Task Mez with making sure that Evelyn does not speak about Mirage history. Interrupt her, subtly hypnotize or even nonlethaly shoot at her if all else does not help to keep Evelyn quiet. Accuse Evelyn of attempts of hypnosis if you need to make explanations for your interruptions.
-[]If we are losing have Mez stall for a time, retrieve fallen fighters, have Lizzy use her bugs to move unconscious supers from hall, then have her bugs chew on what is left of support columns to bring roof on Evelyn. Hopefully Hego or Marco will protect Winston if he does not leave by then. With early warning Mez can use wings to fly out of it.
-[]If Evelyn subdued one way or another attempt to gain her custody. Bring out possibility that unstable powers are detrimental to her health and she needs to be immediately checked at genetic research facility. Plus if she needs medical help her powers can prevent normal equipment from working. You have sufficient lab, but if others don't trust you entirely it can be collaboration with Liv Amara assuming you can still find her in the aftermath.
-[]Try to recover Sinatron processor on the basis of needing to learn what exactly he injected Evelyn with and where he acquired it.
-[]If Evelyn successfully captured make sure that she does not awaken until her powers are dealt with or she is not in the position to use them. Decide on her future fate depending on what was said or done during fight. Make sure to gather all available information from her or from Sinatron databases to recover both her secret tech and information that she possess on you so you have option to secretly visit Syndrom island and remove all data on Mirage that he kept there. Or ask Jumba if he have anything that can remove islands from maps.
Thus yet another plan here
[] Plan: Removing all leads
-[] Give Winston time for second attempt to make Evelyn surrender or do whatever he and Hego planned. Have your fighters subtly surround Evelyn and join fighting after it starts properly. Have Mirage covertly slip from the area and move away all the while looking suspiciously as if doing it for some nefarious purpose. Make sure that Edna sees it and hopefully follows her. Actually have Mirage search for survivors in the not immediate vicinity of the fighting and help them to move out of building. If possible have some of Lizzy bugs help you.
-[]Have Marco and Lizzy help Hego to knock out Evelyn . Task Mez with making sure that Evelyn does not speak about Mirage history. Interrupt her, subtly hypnotize or even nonlethaly shoot at her if all else does not help to keep Evelyn quiet. Accuse Evelyn of attempts of hypnosis if you need to make explanations for your interruptions.
-[]If we are losing have Mez stall for a time, retrieve fallen fighters, have Lizzy use her bugs to move unconscious supers from hall, then have her bugs chew on what is left of support columns to bring roof on Evelyn. Hopefully Hego or Marco will protect Winston if he does not leave by then. With early warning Mez can use wings to fly out of it.
-[]If Evelyn subdued one way or another attempt to gain her custody. Bring out possibility that unstable powers are detrimental to her health and she needs to be immediately checked at genetic research facility. Plus if she needs medical help her powers can prevent normal equipment from working. You have sufficient lab, but if others don't trust you entirely it can be collaboration with Liv Amara assuming you can still find her in the aftermath.
-[]Try to recover Sinatron processor on the basis of needing to learn what exactly he injected Evelyn with and where he acquired it.
-[]If Evelyn successfully captured make sure that she does not awaken until her powers are dealt with or she is not in the position to use them. Decide on her future fate depending on what was said or done during fight. Make sure to gather all available information from her or from Sinatron databases to recover both her secret tech and information that she possess on you so you have option to secretly visit Syndrom island and remove all data on Mirage that he kept there. Or ask Jumba if he have anything that can remove islands from maps.
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My main concern here is that she could have made herself immune to her own hypnosis and Mez methods may be not different enough. It still makes sense to include it in plan as option B if beating her don't work, but before more radical options. I'll edit something along those lines in my plan later
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- It/Its
Let's just shoot her
Why do you care so much about the life of a racist terrorist? Sure, it might look bad to kill her broadcasted, but it's not like the National Guard is going to be coming in with the intention to keep her alive.
- Location
- Two hours away
- Pronouns
- He/Him
If we're going to use our neutral special we should make a statement about how Evelyn doesn't want to be treated like a super. Killing the meta-human of the hour right before the SRA repeal vote will have a mixed reaction no matter how justified. Especially if Mez is caught on camera using powers.
Well, we certainly don't want to get near her, but at the same time we don't exactly have a lot of ranged options.
With Ev's mind being in the state it is, not sure Mez hypnosis would work (haven't seen if it's a sure thing in general anyhow). We have Liz, but Ev will probably fry her antborgs just by touching them. Marco is hand-to-hand so... don't want to risk him getting fried if he loses a combat roll.
Presumably she's immune to her own electricity so... not sure how to tackle this, maybe get her wet?
With Ev's mind being in the state it is, not sure Mez hypnosis would work (haven't seen if it's a sure thing in general anyhow). We have Liz, but Ev will probably fry her antborgs just by touching them. Marco is hand-to-hand so... don't want to risk him getting fried if he loses a combat roll.
Presumably she's immune to her own electricity so... not sure how to tackle this, maybe get her wet?
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- She/Her
Can we make sure to mention Mez flies in from above? Attacking in 3D will surely help.