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The Froggy Ninja said:
Which truth are we talking about?
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I believe in this case is that a good chunk of his crime fighting is being set up.

Granted I'm not sure what to actually say right now. If Hego hadn't noticed I would be fine with not saying much, but the fact that he is starting too makes me wary of not following through. On the other hand, this is a very public space, Hego is the star of the event, and giving him information that would probably cause some emotional impact probably wouldn't be great?
 
Mojave said:
Mirage had to analyze Mr. Incredible's life and career as part of her work for Syndrome and as such a prominent super, Hego would probably admire him. Are there any parables from Mr. Incredible's life that would be fitting in this situation? That might be able to shake loose Hego's moral compass?
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I mean, there's one, which Mirage is conveniently profoundly aware of.

Mr. Incredible was called in, long after his retirement, by a mysterious woman who claimed she needed his help defeating a rogue experimental robot.

I'm not sure precisely when the timeline diverged, but the short version is simply that it was a trick. She manufactured a story, preyed upon his desire to return to his glory days, and lured him into a trap for her employer. And in this version, it killed him.

For Hego, the details are a little different, but the plot is the same. He was hungry for a return to heroics, so someone unscrupulous manufactured fake problems for him to solve. We haven't seen the end of it yet, but it's probably not good (and possibly Screenslaver based).

Maybe something approaching the truth is in order. Maybe not to the degree of telling Hego Mirage was part of it, but hearing one of his idols went down the same path and died because of it would be a hell of a wakeup call. Even more so if Mirage shares that it was Kronos which did it, given that Hego works for the company that previously was Kronos.
 
Do we....Do we have the time to tell him the full details? Because, I do kinda want Mirage to pull him into a side-room and tell Hego of how Mr. Incredible died. Not the full story, but how it went down. A mysterious woman, preyed on his desire to return to the glory days, lured him into a trap, and killed him.
 
Well, this is certainly an interesting chance all things considered but I'm not sure how much we can say within a few minutes before the main event starts that wouldn't risk things going bad
 
What do you say?
-[ ] "Hego, these attacks. There's something more to them. I have information that Sinatron is involved in them somehow. I don't know the specifics, but... in the interest of helping out a former colleague, I'm willing to tell you what I know."
 
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"Ah. I see you've already noticed it."

(Refuse to elaborate further, but nonverbally signal sympathy and discomfort.)

"When things come to a head, remember that you've made friends you can call on. You don't need to face this alone."

(Leave.)
 
The Richmaster said:
Well, this is certainly an interesting chance all things considered but I'm not sure how much we can say within a few minutes before the main event starts that wouldn't risk things going bad
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Something vague like "if you ever need (help/to talk/anything), call me"? Or, I dunno. Now's not a good time to try to blow open a conspiracy, but a general offer of support or something else to shore him up a little and hopefully arrange for future stuff could fit. As far as Mirage knows, the situation isn't going to fundamentally change between now and the end of the party.
MadScientist said:
"Ah. I see you've already noticed it."

(Refuse to elaborate further, but nonverbally signal sympathy and discomfort.)

"When things come to a head, remember that you've made friends you can call on. You don't need to face this alone."

(Leave.)
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This is perfect.
 
Stratagemini said:
What do you say?
-[ ] "Hego, these attacks. There's something more to them. I have information that Sinatron is involved in them somehow. I don't know the specifics, but... in the interest of helping out a former colleague, I'm willing to tell you what I know."
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High risk, high reward.


MadScientist said:
"Ah. I see you've already noticed it."

(Refuse to elaborate further, but nonverbally signal sympathy and discomfort.)

"When things come to a head, remember that you've made friends you can call on. You don't need to face this alone."

(Leave.)
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Low risk, potentially the same reward as Stratagemini's prompt.

If we think this is going to take off immediately, then Stratagemini's prompt is a must. Otherwise, I'm going with MadScientist's prompt.
 
Light said:
High risk, high reward.




Low risk, potentially the same reward as Stratagemini's prompt.

If we think this is going to take off immediately, then Stratagemini's prompt is a must. Otherwise, I'm going with MadScientist's prompt.
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I like Mad scientist's prompt too, honestly. But we're *in the quest right now*, so it'll probably take off that day. Probably at the party. since that's the only place Mirage had planned to go to, and it's sufficiently public.

With that said, I prefer MadScientist's Prompt.

EDIT: remember, in Incredibles 2, Evelyn's target was a big fancy dinner fundraiser hosted for the purpose of repealing the SRA. That sounds like kind of a familiar location right now.
 
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googlyeyesultra said:
I mean, there's one, which Mirage is conveniently profoundly aware of.

Mr. Incredible was called in, long after his retirement, by a mysterious woman who claimed she needed his help defeating a rogue experimental robot.

I'm not sure precisely when the timeline diverged, but the short version is simply that it was a trick. She manufactured a story, preyed upon his desire to return to his glory days, and lured him into a trap for her employer. And in this version, it killed him.

For Hego, the details are a little different, but the plot is the same. He was hungry for a return to heroics, so someone unscrupulous manufactured fake problems for him to solve. We haven't seen the end of it yet, but it's probably not good (and possibly Screenslaver based).

Maybe something approaching the truth is in order. Maybe not to the degree of telling Hego Mirage was part of it, but hearing one of his idols went down the same path and died because of it would be a hell of a wakeup call. Even more so if Mirage shares that it was Kronos which did it, given that Hego works for the company that previously was Kronos.
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I really like this

[] "Do you know what happened to Mr. Incredible, Hego...?" (Don't reveal our involvement)
 
So, MadScientist's prompt is good, but I kind of want to sneak in a kiss on the cheek. Hell, there is even hispanic background that can be used as justification/deflection, because we are a lot kissier than our northern neighbours and same seems to apply in the Americas.

Also, I want to shut up the purple and green Mirages making comments from the gallery. Tiny yellow Mirage gets to roll for initiative.
 
I'm seeing a lot of really good discussion here and liking it.

One thing I will note- not because of anything in particular you all have said, but because I forgot to put it into the interlude:

If you want to try and convince Hego of anything in particular, what you say to him will have a considerable impact on the difficulty.
 
I want to give him a wire (with his knowledge and permission of course) so we can be closer to the action with an extra ear on it as it goes down. Marco and Lizzie are here as bodyguards and so presumably wearing microphone/earpiece equipment.

Something like "Hego, I have to introduce you to [Mezmerella's civilian name], and I hope you can spare a moment for old friends?"

(Get him away from the crowd, give him Lizzie's earpiece)

"Hego, I think we can both tell there are more to these attacks than meets the eye. Sinatron may be involved and possibly others at this party. If you trust me, I want you to hide this, and know you have friends you can rely on if anything goes amiss."
 
There is another way to warn him I think. Hego aware that his successes before DEI were in big part thanks to the Shego manipulations so we can simply compare his past situation with present.

For example "Heard you had some big successes at crimefighting recently. Good for you. It is sad for DEI to lose such competent manager, but everyone should pursue their own happiness. And frankly I am glad that you start to return to your top performance. From the time when you led your own super team I mean. I can only apologize that DEI were unable to provide the same level of support for you as you had from Shego and the rest of Team Go. Seems like Olympia at least knows what it is doing. Unless there are other factors at play? Hmm, speaking of Shego, I think I saw her earlier. Care to introduce me to your sister? Unless you have other plans for the evening?"



Even if Hego will suspect Shego at first it just means that he will confront her and inform her of the developing situation. If we are near at this point we can point them in more correct direction, after confirming that Olympia does not do it with Shego blessing.
 
Alex Sol said:
There is another way to warn him I think. Hego aware that his successes before DEI were in big part thanks to the Shego manipulations so we can simply compare his past situation with present.

For example "Heard you had some big successes at crimefighting recently. Good for you. It is sad for DEI to lose such competent manager, but everyone should pursue their own happiness. And frankly I am glad that you start to return to your top performance. From the time when you led your own super team I mean. I can only apologize that DEI were unable to provide the same level of support for you as you had from Shego and the rest of Team Go. Seems like Olympia at least knows what it is doing. Unless there are other factors at play? Hmm, speaking of Shego, I think I saw her earlier. Care to introduce me to your sister? Unless you have other plans for the evening?"



Even if Hego will suspect Shego at first it just means that he will confront her and inform her of the developing situation. If we are near at this point we can point them in more correct direction, after confirming that Olympia does not do it with Shego blessing.
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Using it as an analogy isn't bad but I think firing him up to be suspicious of Shego of all people is a poor plan, he'll be looking in the wrong direction and who's to say he'll even believe her honest insistence she's not in on it (because I immensely doubt she is) rather than holding onto misplaced paranoia we fostered?
 
I'm going to go ahead and write up my write-in now, since I believe I'll be busy when the moratorium is over. Someone may be able to come up with a better version of this, but I'd like to vote for something at least a little like this - sharing the story of how Mr. Incredible died, since it's so very similar to what's happening to Hego now.

[] Mr. Incredible was one of the greats, and you're so much like him - so eager to make a difference. Seeing you here today, wearing a suit in homage to his... I want to tell you what happened to him, because I don't want it to happen to you. Mr. Incredible had officially retired from heroics, but he longed for a return to his glory days. Syndrome exploited that - he sent a friendly face, offering a secret mission only Mr. Incredible could handle, a chance to be doing something important again. It wasn't real. Syndrome lured him in and killed him. I quit Kronos, then. Kronos has a different face now, a different name, but I don't think I'll ever trust them again.
 
googlyeyesultra said:
I'm going to go ahead and write up my write-in now, since I believe I'll be busy when the moratorium is over. Someone may be able to come up with a better version of this, but I'd like to vote for something at least a little like this - sharing the story of how Mr. Incredible died, since it's so very similar to what's happening to Hego now.

[] Mr. Incredible was one of the greats, and you're so much like him - so eager to make a difference. Seeing you here today, wearing a suit in homage to his... I want to tell you what happened to him, because I don't want it to happen to you. Mr. Incredible had officially retired from heroics, but he longed for a return to his glory days. Syndrome exploited that - he sent a friendly face, offering a secret mission only Mr. Incredible could handle, a chance to be doing something important again. It wasn't real. Syndrome lured him in and killed him. I quit Kronos, then. Kronos has a different face now, a different name, but I don't think I'll ever trust them again.
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That's not bad at all. But it explicitly poisons him against Kronos, and more importantly, We've had her collaborate with Kronos before.
 
Stratagemini said:
That's not bad at all. But it explicitly poisons him against Kronos, and more importantly, We've had her collaborate with Kronos before.
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I wouldn't mind someone taking a shot at a better wording, but he's working for Olympia now, formerly known as Kronos, so poisoning him against Kronos is probably not a bad call.

You may be right though about her collaborating with Kronos being a problem. I don't quite remember the context of that - I think we worked on the OS together? Not sure about how she felt about it.
 
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googlyeyesultra said:
I'm going to go ahead and write up my write-in now, since I believe I'll be busy when the moratorium is over. Someone may be able to come up with a better version of this, but I'd like to vote for something at least a little like this - sharing the story of how Mr. Incredible died, since it's so very similar to what's happening to Hego now.

[] Mr. Incredible was one of the greats, and you're so much like him - so eager to make a difference. Seeing you here today, wearing a suit in homage to his... I want to tell you what happened to him, because I don't want it to happen to you. Mr. Incredible had officially retired from heroics, but he longed for a return to his glory days. Syndrome exploited that - he sent a friendly face, offering a secret mission only Mr. Incredible could handle, a chance to be doing something important again. It wasn't real. Syndrome lured him in and killed him. I quit Kronos, then. Kronos has a different face now, a different name, but I don't think I'll ever trust them again.
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While that one is pretty good (although I would omit Syndrome/Kronos being the culprit to not poison him against his new employer), why should he believe us without Mirage divulging just WHO that "friendly face" actually was (which I expect to backfire horribly)?
 
TheGleeman said:
While that one is pretty good (although I would omit Syndrome/Kronos being the culprit to not poison him against his new employer), why should he believe us without Mirage divulging just WHO that "friendly face" actually was (which I expect to backfire horribly)?
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Hego is pretty credulous, to be honest. If he starts distrusting people, though, that's kinda a win? My hope is that he accepts he's getting fed fake hero work, realizes that might have nefarious intentions, and doesn't fall for part 2 of whatever the plan is. Maybe I'm way off, and it is just a PR stunt, but it feels like the plot of Incredibles 2, where heroes come back out into the limelight, sponsored by the Deavors, and then Evelyn mind controls them in order to tarnish the idea of supers ever being good again. Odds are Winston is also being fooled, here.
 
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