DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
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Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
Hey, I don't participate on the discord channel, so could anyone tell me why we're nearly unanimously voting to hire Mesmerella, and not someone else like Shoryu?
- Location
- The Z-Cave
For me it's because no one is ever going to vote for Dingo until we go down the list and because I don't care about Big Hero 6 or solving their problems.
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
What list? I remember a lot of discussion on potential hires, but do we have some sort of definitive list of future hires?
- Location
- California
Because he "works for coin alone" and we're strapped for cash?
- Location
- The Z-Cave
It's just something I've noticed ever since we've unlocked the rolodex there's been a list of characters that the questers have been interested in hiring and have convinced the thread they are worth hiring: Ludivine, Kitsune, Gomez, Juniper, Wasabi, and Mesmerella have all been heavily pushed by differing people with varying arguments over every other option. With everyone people have a vested emotional interest hiring from the quests heavily emotionally charged early days I now have a chance to push the Hero Unit I want since all the other competitors are of more equal popularity compared to the early favorites.
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- He/Him
[X] Plan: Playing the Best Odds
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- He/Him
Well not everybody in the hero cards are available for hire - and sadly Shoryu is one of the ones that aren't.
Mesmerella is mostly because she seems pretty reasonable and reliable for work with a team and has a very Black-Ops applicable skillset - and also brings useful tech with her we can possibly become more familiar with thanks to her presence. She's very much a Black Ops heroball hire, not a solo hire though.
- Location
- Two hours away
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Plan: Rebuild Renew
I voted to hire Mesmerella because her interview was great and I want to read more of her. I don't know who Shoryu is, and though he sounds interesting, Mesmerella just sounds fun.
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
He was just the first example I quoted, even though he's a Jo-Lan master (Tobe's "ninja" magic style) with amazing stats. I was more asking if we had a specific reason for wanting Mesmerella, beyond her being a Intrigue/Diplo cape. Because there were some other characters I noticed that could fill that niche arguably better:
- Sirque (better Martial and Learning, same everything else);
- Liquidator (better Stewardship, better Diplo, 5 star Martial);
- Mr. Sparkles (better Stewardship, switch Intrigue focus for Diplo focus, entertainment-based trait?);
- Naughty Kitty (Same stats, better Martial, worse Learning, animal-themed teenager);
- Candela (one less Intrigue, one less Learning, plus four Martial);
- Fujitas (worse Intrigue, but better overall stats);
So I was just wondering if we wanted Mesmerella for a specific reason.
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- Location
- Two hours away
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- He/Him
I want her for her ability to at least stall our crazier units from getting out of hand.
Having a mesmerist on a black ops team just feels like a good idea.
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
- Location
- Central Park
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- He/Him/They/Them
So, The heroball is gonna have at least Technor and Juniper, and probably Gomez too.
TECHNOR
Martial: 26 ✪✪
Diplomacy: 33 ✪✪✪
Stewardship: 22 ✪✪
Intrigue: 24 ✪✪
Learning: 30 ✪✪✪
JUNIPER
Martial: 26 ✪✪
Diplomacy: 17 ✪
Stewardship: 8 ✪
Intrigue: 16 ✪
Learning: 14 ✪
Occult: 8 ✪
GOMEZ
Martial: 7 ✪✪
Diplomacy: 9 ✪
Stewardship: 14 ✪
Intrigue: 11 ✪
Learning: 22 ✪✪✪
Occult: 11 (Effective) ✪
The stars aren't necessarily equivalent to stats. With that said:
Mesmerella
Martial: ✪
Diplomacy: ✪✪
Stewardship: ✪
Intrigue: ✪✪✪
Learning: ✪✪
The reason Mesmerella's being picked is because much more than stats? Cohesion matters. LOVEMUFFIN is an example of a Hero Ball with poor Cohesion (The individual scores of scientists in lovemuffin were all higher than LOVEMUFFIN as a whole). Jumba's Heroball has decent cohesion (which is why they have serious downsides). NOWCA is an example of pretty good Cohesion (Monogram's stats remain unchanged, but he gets to become an extra action). We want a GOOD heroball (we have no examples of such so far, but monogram's NOWCA is promising). Which means we need people who will probably get along with each other. Mesmerella seems likely to fit in well. Other pulls? not so much. In addition, Mesmerella brings Decent Intrique to the table for sending this heroball out on quests.
Traits are important too. Which is why we don't need Martial as much.
Absolutely not. We would have to split the black ops team from the actions that having a team unlocks along with the other Martial actions, and Gomez is even mentioned to not be very physically fit.
*waves Dingo flag some more*
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- He/Him
Dingo's another good pick there, though you shouldn't count Gomez out! With Gomez the Black Ops ball could also quite effectively double as a science think tank and effectively approach occult problems - and if we could get Technor and Mesmerella to chip in and help him build actually functioning Divino control devices, he could go from out-of-shape old man to Elder Demon Pokemon Trainer to get that effective Martial up!
KidFromPallet
Pokemon Fan
- Location
- Pallet Town
[x] Plan: Chasing Kats and Upgrading Bots
While I don't like putting Supervillainy off, I can acknowledge that the time-sensitive Normbot action is a better pick this turn.
While I don't like putting Supervillainy off, I can acknowledge that the time-sensitive Normbot action is a better pick this turn.
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
Wait, what? How do you know this?
Isn't Gomez our currently most effective Occult unit? Why would we heroball him?
This I only agree partially on. Mesmerella has no particular synergy with the rest of the Heroball, so I think other options are at least as good. I don't know Liquidator at all so I don't know how he would fit, but I did list Naughty Kitty as a similarly animal-themed villainous teenager and maybe even a future Combos Chicas; Candela is one of Jumba's capes; and Sirque is just straight up better than Mesmerella and I can't see any extra difficulties there.
Edit: Sirque is a trained circus acrobat, so good synergy with Juniper, and she even comes with her very own portaltech.
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- Location
- Somewhere nearby.
Liquidator is a hard no, for the same reasons as Bushroot. He has a wrap sheet a mile long and has a number of murders to his name
In the Diplomacy section of this turn under the action Recruit from your Rolodex there is the list of available recruitment options with a small blur about each one of them
More exactly, he did team up with Negaduck just a short while ago and this quest has made a point of making Negaduck big time bad news.
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
Ah, that clears some stuff up! Still, Sirque and Naughty Kitty are available. The former has "very low" tolerance for nonsense, which shouldn't hurt her Heroball cohesion but might mean she's less tolerant of Doof himself; but the latter apparently has "Cat Whispering: Maximum", wouldn't that be useful for our current Cat Mafia-related problems?
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